Posted by Killa4luv:

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T WANT SHAWN MARION ON THIS TEAM?????

The only 3's we should be looking at with any degree of seriousness are Ron Artest and Pau Gasol. Ron for obvious reasons and PAu because he is 7 feet, can shoot, post up, block shots and is only 24 years old.

We need a big man who can post up and block shots.


Just say NO to Shawn Marion!!!!!!!!

that would be NO THANKS

marion is AWESOME but, as crazy as this sounds, we shouldn't go after him.

if we're going to make a MEGA $$$ deal, then it should be for a player that fits a bigger need AND gives us an offensive identity in the post. marion is a great player BUT at the end of the day, what he gives us is great defense from the 3 spot. i'm okay with letting ariza develop into that role and going after someone down low...

Posted by djsunyc:


if we're going to make a MEGA $$$ deal, then it should be for a player that fits a bigger need AND gives us an offensive identity in the post. marion is a great player BUT at the end of the day, what he gives us is great defense from the 3 spot. i'm okay with letting ariza develop into that role and going after someone down low...

Ok. I agree. At least you make a valid point.

My point, though, was that beggars can't be choosers. There aren't that many star quality "back to the basket" players that even MIGHT be available this season. At least Marion provides 2 glaring needs -defense and rebounding.

But again, you are right. That said, who do you think (realistically) we can acquire sometime before the trading deadline and for who?


btw: in a Marion deal, I'm assuming Sweetney would be staying. In fact, he could even start. There's your "back to the basket" post player right there...



[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/22/2005 10:56:34]

Posted by pizza:

im done with big deals.

if something falls in our lap cool. but no more knocking on doors.

good luck NOT getting past the 1st round in that case...

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/22/2005 11:00:01]

Posted by Killa4luv:

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T WANT SHAWN MARION ON THIS TEAM?????

The only 3's we should be looking at with any degree of seriousness are Ron Artest and Pau Gasol. Ron for obvious reasons and PAu because he is 7 feet, can shoot, post up, block shots and is only 24 years old.

We need a big man who can post up and block shots.


Just say NO to Shawn Marion!!!!!!!!

NO to Marion and his max contract. No more trades with the Suns. Unless they are talking Stoudamire or JJ. If not no thanks.

Posted by bobs3304:

Posted by djsunyc:


if we're going to make a MEGA $$$ deal, then it should be for a player that fits a bigger need AND gives us an offensive identity in the post. marion is a great player BUT at the end of the day, what he gives us is great defense from the 3 spot. i'm okay with letting ariza develop into that role and going after someone down low...

Ok. I agree. At least you make a valid point.

My point, though, was that beggars can't be choosers. There aren't that many star quality "back to the basket" players that even MIGHT be available this season. At least Marion provides 2 glaring needs -defense and rebounding.

But again, you are right. That said, who do you think (realistically) we can acquire sometime before the trading deadline and for who?


btw: in a Marion deal, I'm assuming Sweetney would be staying. In fact, he could even start. There's your "back to the basket" post player right there...



[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/22/2005 10:56:34]

i don't buy beggars can't be choosers philosphy. we SHOULDN'T be beggars. i wouldn't mind not doing ANYTHING with tim and penny. sometimes, if you can't get the right player, then NOT MAKING a move is just as good.

we are not in a position of weakness. we have chips and we have young blood.

i'd much rather get boozer than marion.

yeah, i know, boozer is another undersized PF. but what he does do is play defense and rebounds (big time) but at a different spot, PF and can easily play the C spot in the east. and that's only IF we had to make a move.

i mean, i probably will get lambasted for this one, but if we HAD TO make a move with tim and penny, then, jeez, i can't believe i'm saying this, but possibly even dampier b/c he plays center and plays defense. he may help us more than marion. (uggg, that hurt just typing it)

ok, hold up, forget i mentioned dampier. it was a brain lapse...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 07/22/2005 11:29:42]

i don't trust the jazz to be a good team. they lost ak last season.
but that was no excuse to tank. when you have matt, okur, & boozer.

why is boozer even being talked about? is he being shopped??

The Jazz are automatically playoff bound if their players can stay healthy most of the season.

Don't forget about Jerry Sloan. He's a big part of what they do. There's no way he gives up without a fight.

The Jazz don't really have a franchise player. They do, however, have a franchise coach and selfless, talented, hard-working minions.

We're about to land a franchise coach, but are our players willing to take in everything he has to offer...especially Marbury? You gotta belive that they can, but even then, you have to have defensively-oriented players already on the team. Most of our starters are average defenders or worse. That's a problem. How to correct that - trade for a defensively solid PF with a back to the basket post game. That automatically cancels out Boozer. Marion is more in the way of a SF, although I love his game. I guess Elton Brand is the guy we're looking for...