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diderotn
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7/21/2005  5:48 PM
Crawff at the PG position????? Didn't he say that he wasn't a PG when he played for the Bulls...??? Crawff would be a much better player if he was able to play like RIP. He can improve his shooting greatly if he would stop shooting the 3 so damn much. He needs to learn to run through pick & rolls like RIP or Reggie....If I was him, I would pay Reggie money to teach me his craft....
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1 thing with Craw is that in Chi and here he keeps being paired in the backcourt with another pg. he and Jay Williams then Heinrich now here. When he was traded here I thought he and the team would be better served with him on the bench learning the 1 regardless if Hou was able to go or not. Maybe now this conversion experiment will end and we'll cater to his strengths which are

halfcourt: in the passing game skill finishing and shooting with his feet set and also in transition.

transition: pushing and finding people in good position to score.
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7/21/2005  5:51 PM
he made amare what he is. not nash. stephon made amare this kid.

Q used to be good, on the Clippers, but has serious back problems at 25. He also was not in a great system for his talents on the Suns, but whatever.

Amare made Amare in my opinion, how did Stephon make Amare?

What credible sources do you have that claim Q has "serious back problems"? I thought I remember him saying his back is not an issue and never really was.
"He only went to Georgia Tech for one year, and that's an engineering school." -LB
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7/21/2005  6:01 PM
Didn't he say that he wasn't a PG when he played for the Bulls...???

where did you here that? he was drafted as a 1. Why can't Crawford play the 1?

Rip and Reggie played 2 all there career. Crawford was moved to 2 when the Bulls drafted Heinrich 2 seasons ago. He started out running the show when his playing career began in highschool.

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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7/21/2005  6:04 PM
Craw reminds me of Jalen Rose--they could be big lanky point guards but they have too much offensive prowess to ever really dedicate themselves to distributing the ball.
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7/21/2005  8:12 PM
Posted by Knight:
he made amare what he is. not nash. stephon made amare this kid.

Q used to be good, on the Clippers, but has serious back problems at 25. He also was not in a great system for his talents on the Suns, but whatever.

Amare made Amare in my opinion, how did Stephon make Amare?

What credible sources do you have that claim Q has "serious back problems"? I thought I remember him saying his back is not an issue and never really was.
ok, to address these posts - Marbury raised Amare into the beast he is now by feeding him like a fiend his first year (and second) in the L. Marbury gave Amare confidence - built him up against the spurs and players like KG as a rookie (amare got 38 points and double digit rebounds against KG in a win as a rookie because of marbury feeding him and hitting him off in the right spots). Steph was doing it again in Amare's second season until Amare went down, there was no one to feed and Marbs had to do it all himself again and that's when he got traded.

If Q doesnt have back problems, why does has he missed 10 or more games the past two seasons with back problems? Thank you.
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7/21/2005  8:28 PM
funny. Amare and Marion both were in the papers b/ 4we played the Suns the 1s ttime talking about how they didn't like playing with Marbury b/c of his inability to get them the ball in spots they like.

And by the numbers Amare was a 20 ppg scorer with or without Marbury. Look at his numbers following the trade and with Barbosa playing point. He still got 20.

If any point affected his production its Nash. the 5-6 more dunks per game he got off Nash spoon feeding him showed up directly in his fg% and ppg avg. Plus I'm quite sure he spent time working with Nash on nailing the 15 - 18 fter if the lane wasn't there when they play pick and roll.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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7/21/2005  8:38 PM
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by Knight:
he made amare what he is. not nash. stephon made amare this kid.

Q used to be good, on the Clippers, but has serious back problems at 25. He also was not in a great system for his talents on the Suns, but whatever.

Amare made Amare in my opinion, how did Stephon make Amare?

What credible sources do you have that claim Q has "serious back problems"? I thought I remember him saying his back is not an issue and never really was.
ok, to address these posts - Marbury raised Amare into the beast he is now by feeding him like a fiend his first year (and second) in the L. Marbury gave Amare confidence - built him up against the spurs and players like KG as a rookie (amare got 38 points and double digit rebounds against KG in a win as a rookie because of marbury feeding him and hitting him off in the right spots). Steph was doing it again in Amare's second season until Amare went down, there was no one to feed and Marbs had to do it all himself again and that's when he got traded.

If Q doesnt have back problems, why does has he missed 10 or more games the past two seasons with back problems? Thank you.
It's the difference between past and present tense. If you had said "Q once had back problems for about 2 weeks 2 years ago," you'd be right. If you say, "Q has back problems now," I'm aware of no supporting evidence.
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7/21/2005  10:05 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by Knight:
he made amare what he is. not nash. stephon made amare this kid.

Q used to be good, on the Clippers, but has serious back problems at 25. He also was not in a great system for his talents on the Suns, but whatever.

Amare made Amare in my opinion, how did Stephon make Amare?

What credible sources do you have that claim Q has "serious back problems"? I thought I remember him saying his back is not an issue and never really was.
ok, to address these posts - Marbury raised Amare into the beast he is now by feeding him like a fiend his first year (and second) in the L. Marbury gave Amare confidence - built him up against the spurs and players like KG as a rookie (amare got 38 points and double digit rebounds against KG in a win as a rookie because of marbury feeding him and hitting him off in the right spots). Steph was doing it again in Amare's second season until Amare went down, there was no one to feed and Marbs had to do it all himself again and that's when he got traded.

If Q doesnt have back problems, why does has he missed 10 or more games the past two seasons with back problems? Thank you.
It's the difference between past and present tense. If you had said "Q once had back problems for about 2 weeks 2 years ago," you'd be right. If you say, "Q has back problems now," I'm aware of no supporting evidence.
he missed games this past season!

[Edited by - caseloads on 07/21/2005 22:06:16]
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7/21/2005  11:12 PM
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by Knight:
he made amare what he is. not nash. stephon made amare this kid.

Q used to be good, on the Clippers, but has serious back problems at 25. He also was not in a great system for his talents on the Suns, but whatever.

Amare made Amare in my opinion, how did Stephon make Amare?

What credible sources do you have that claim Q has "serious back problems"? I thought I remember him saying his back is not an issue and never really was.
ok, to address these posts - Marbury raised Amare into the beast he is now by feeding him like a fiend his first year (and second) in the L. Marbury gave Amare confidence - built him up against the spurs and players like KG as a rookie (amare got 38 points and double digit rebounds against KG in a win as a rookie because of marbury feeding him and hitting him off in the right spots). Steph was doing it again in Amare's second season until Amare went down, there was no one to feed and Marbs had to do it all himself again and that's when he got traded.

If Q doesnt have back problems, why does has he missed 10 or more games the past two seasons with back problems? Thank you.
It's the difference between past and present tense. If you had said "Q once had back problems for about 2 weeks 2 years ago," you'd be right. If you say, "Q has back problems now," I'm aware of no supporting evidence.
he missed games this past season!

[Edited by - caseloads on 07/21/2005 22:06:16]
He missed 3 games due to a minor ANKLE sprain. What does that have to do with whatever back issue you have in mind?

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 07/21/2005 23:17:43]
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