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7/21/2005  11:09 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Nalod:


Maybe Marbs can meet them in the hamptons the the three of them can take a nice walk on the beach and talk about the future.

Foot prints in the sand..........


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7/21/2005  11:10 AM
nobody can't honnestly deny steph's talent.

like him or not, this guy wants to win and I honnestly think that he hasn't beens urrounded by enough talent to thrive.

Brown is a unique occasion for him to turn everything around.
Kidd was a loser before winning.
Billups was a bust before being a final mvp.

If he wins in NY, all marbury's sins will be buried and forgotten for ever.

Honnestly speaking, I do think that steph tried to get our scrubs involved in our offense. How many layups did nazr missed from a great assist from him ?

I also think that he tried to play the right way during the olympics. He was shaken but tried.

I'm sure Brown can help him mature. I don't worry about mabr and brown, I worry more about IT and LB.
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7/21/2005  11:11 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
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That article was an interesting perspective. Here we all thought it was Steph-Larry Lovefest in Greece but othter than stephs big scoring game it seems otherwise.
I wouldn't let a hack change my perception based on his interpretation of statements by Larry Brown that honestly could be about any player on that team. I didn't find the article or its perspective interesting I thought it was more Steph bashing, which is oh-so-popular in the NY media.

Is AI's style anti-steph? Hardly.

Chauncey?

Steph is a tremendous talent, and I am sure LArry Brown can get the most out of his and everyone elses talent on this team.

Has everyone forgotten how steph would go an entire half of a game trying to get his teamates involved setting them up with open looks only to have them clank jumpers off the side rim?

Has everyone forgotten how easy H20 was scoring during he and stephs 1st half season together? Allan was scoring the easiest 20 point games of his life because he didn't have to work at all to get his shot off, he just had to spot up and let Steph create.



[Edited by - killa4luv on 07/21/2005 10:14:14]

Berman, Isola, Cowherd, im sure there will be others whom are saying that as it stands, Marbs is a coach killer and is selfish. We saw this last year also.

Now we can all reason that with Larry and Isiah as an influence on Marbs that he will change some of his game. That would make sense, but that would be a change form the past, and some of those quotes suggest Marbs is not gonna change.

I for one am not so Kool Aid induced to not listen to the hacks cuz when it comes to the knicks they have been more right than not!

I WISH it all works out, I WISH logic prevails, and I WISH that if larry is the coach that they come together and improve for the sake of every Man, Women, and Child that is the body of Knick fans! Amen!
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7/21/2005  11:11 AM
It all depends on the success of our ball club. If we start really slow, Marb may get traded, but if we start strong and Larry loves what he sees from Marb especially in the defensive end, they will be in love with one another...

Posted by Rich:

If Brown is hired there is a very good chance that Steph will be gone by the trading deadline.
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7/21/2005  11:12 AM
Posted by Rich:

If Brown is hired there is a very good chance that Steph will be gone by the trading deadline.

no way. marb is allstar caliber talent. like him or not, go find another guy like him. they're not many.

steph will pass the rock only if he has someone he trusts.

unefortunately, that never happened before.
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7/21/2005  11:20 AM
Look, to be successful you have to have talents and good coaching around you. For the first time in Marb's career, he can finally say that he is surrounded with nothing but talents. He has a great GM, soon to be a great coach, and finally talents at SG/SF/PF/and a subpar Center. Now, all he has to do is make them better. He did a hell of a job with Nazr and Kurt, he tried the same with TT and Craw, but both were having problems understanding what to do.

it is never too late for anyone to learn....Marb will be an allstar and MVP candidate by the end of the season.
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7/21/2005  11:21 AM
Posted by diderotn:

it is never too late for anyone to learn....Marb will be an allstar and MVP candidate by the end of the season.

geez, i guess i found someone crazier than I am...
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7/21/2005  11:28 AM
You give Larry a training camp with Marb to lay down his philosophy, and give Steph time to work with the new talents that he has around him, he will turn Lee and Frye into Amare....Q will be his side kick and the confidence level will grow between him, his teammates and the coach...

Posted by raven:
Posted by Rich:

If Brown is hired there is a very good chance that Steph will be gone by the trading deadline.

no way. marb is allstar caliber talent. like him or not, go find another guy like him. they're not many.

steph will pass the rock only if he has someone he trusts.

unefortunately, that never happened before.
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7/21/2005  11:29 AM
I guess that all true Knickebokers are crazy...
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7/21/2005  11:29 AM
Posted by diderotn:

You give Larry a training camp with Marb to lay down his philosophy, and give Steph time to work with the new talents that he has around him, he will turn Lee and Frye into Amare....Q will be his side kick and the confidence level will grow between him, his teammates and the coach...

you should write love stories... you would be very good. really.
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7/21/2005  11:51 AM
I disagree
Posted by Rich:

If Brown is hired there is a very good chance that Steph will be gone by the trading deadline.
all kool aid all the time.
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7/21/2005  11:52 AM
make that two people.
Posted by raven:
Posted by diderotn:

it is never too late for anyone to learn....Marb will be an allstar and MVP candidate by the end of the season.

geez, i guess i found someone crazier than I am...
all kool aid all the time.
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7/21/2005  11:57 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

make that two people.
Posted by raven:
Posted by diderotn:

it is never too late for anyone to learn....Marb will be an allstar and MVP candidate by the end of the season.

geez, i guess i found someone crazier than I am...

LOL
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7/21/2005  1:00 PM
Steph has never made a commitment to defense and passing first. Can he be an All-Star if he made that transition? Who knows?

It may also be the case that Brown (if he takes the job) would want to shift Marbury to the 2, and play the role AI did with Philly.

Would Steph accept that role? I don't know.
Posted by raven:
Posted by Rich:

If Brown is hired there is a very good chance that Steph will be gone by the trading deadline.

no way. marb is allstar caliber talent. like him or not, go find another guy like him. they're not many.

steph will pass the rock only if he has someone he trusts.

unefortunately, that never happened before.
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7/21/2005  1:28 PM
Posted by Rich:

Steph has never made a commitment to defense and passing first. Can he be an All-Star if he made that transition? Who knows?
He can be an all-star without playing D. If you mean MVP candidate, I dont think he can. I dont think Stephon will ever win an MVP.
It may also be the case that Brown (if he takes the job) would want to shift Marbury to the 2, and play the role AI did with Philly.

Would Steph accept that role? I don't know.
He would. They talked about Stephon playing the 2 before the end of last season. He was open to it. They even asked Nate if we would like to PG to Steph's SG. I dont think that should be a prolem. I am afraid that after winning a playoff series one year, Steph gets a big head and stops listening to LB.
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7/21/2005  1:39 PM
Posted by diderotn:

You give Larry a training camp with Marb to lay down his philosophy, and give Steph time to work with the new talents that he has around him, he will turn Lee and Frye into Amare....Q will be his side kick and the confidence level will grow between him, his teammates and the coach...

Posted by raven:
Posted by Rich:

If Brown is hired there is a very good chance that Steph will be gone by the trading deadline.

no way. marb is allstar caliber talent. like him or not, go find another guy like him. they're not many.

steph will pass the rock only if he has someone he trusts.

unefortunately, that never happened before.

Have marbs over, shelly can make a nice blintzm.

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7/21/2005  1:48 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:


He can be an all-star without playing D. If you mean MVP candidate, I dont think he can. I dont think Stephon will ever win an MVP.

My point is that he has to be willing to play D to gain Brown's trust, and I'm not sure that he is willing to do that.
He would. They talked about Stephon playing the 2 before the end of last season. He was open to it. They even asked Nate if we would like to PG to Steph's SG. I dont think that should be a prolem. I am afraid that after winning a playoff series one year, Steph gets a big head and stops listening to LB.

If winning one playoff series would sate Steph, get rid of him now
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7/21/2005  1:54 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by Silverfuel:


He can be an all-star without playing D. If you mean MVP candidate, I dont think he can. I dont think Stephon will ever win an MVP.

My point is that he has to be willing to play D to gain Brown's trust, and I'm not sure that he is willing to do that.
He would. They talked about Stephon playing the 2 before the end of last season. He was open to it. They even asked Nate if we would like to PG to Steph's SG. I dont think that should be a prolem. I am afraid that after winning a playoff series one year, Steph gets a big head and stops listening to LB.

If winning one playoff series would sate Steph, get rid of him now
agreed on both points.
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