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diderotn
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7/11/2005  1:04 PM
Kwame needs a transplant...actually, he needs two transplants, heart and brain..
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7/11/2005  1:17 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Kwame needs a transplant...actually, he needs two transplants, heart and brain..
Yeah and sweets needs gastric bypass surgery so I guess they are more or less even.
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7/11/2005  3:54 PM
gunsnewing - who wins a one -on-one between yo' boy Bynum and Jackie Butler?

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7/11/2005  3:59 PM
Posted by misterearl:

gunsnewing - who wins a one -on-one between yo' boy Bynum and Jackie Butler?

Bynum, no doubt in my mind! although Jackie is coming along icely. He just doesn't have the upside and size and is more raw

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/11/2005 16:06:11]
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7/11/2005  4:27 PM
If you're having trouble understanding Isiah's moves, look at the lineup changes he's made:

PG: Ward and Eisley --> Marbury and Nate R
SG: Shandon Anderson --> Q-Rich, Jamal Crawford
SF: Keith Van Horn --> Trevor Ariza, Q-Rich (TT if still on the team), JYD
PF: Kurt Thomas --> Mike Sweetney, David Lee, Malik Rose
C: Dikembe Mutombo --> Channing Frye

It's pretty obvious he's trying to get young, talented, tough high ceiling players. Not every trade has worked out successfully, but if you look at the lineup changes it's clear he's trying to get that type of player.
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7/13/2005  10:17 AM
Look, I am one of Isiah's biggest supporter, but the interest in Walker and Kwame doesn't go well with what he is trying to do. If we can't get a big man like James/Curry/Chandler or Hunter, we need to stand pat and wait until we are able to pay more than the MLE to acquire a real center. I am sorry, but we need to take a year to marinade what we have right now. Minus TT/Penny and Houston, I think that we can do really well with what we will have available.

Posted by Bonn1997:

If you're having trouble understanding Isiah's moves, look at the lineup changes he's made:

PG: Ward and Eisley --> Marbury and Nate R
SG: Shandon Anderson --> Q-Rich, Jamal Crawford
SF: Keith Van Horn --> Trevor Ariza, Q-Rich (TT if still on the team), JYD
PF: Kurt Thomas --> Mike Sweetney, David Lee, Malik Rose
C: Dikembe Mutombo --> Channing Frye

It's pretty obvious he's trying to get young, talented, tough high ceiling players. Not every trade has worked out successfully, but if you look at the lineup changes it's clear he's trying to get that type of player.
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7/13/2005  10:22 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by misterearl:

gunsnewing - who wins a one -on-one between yo' boy Bynum and Jackie Butler?

Bynum, no doubt in my mind! although Jackie is coming along icely. He just doesn't have the upside and size and is more raw

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/11/2005 16:06:11]
Guns who will win with your boy, Splitter and Butler?
I keep bothering Guns about Splitter, watch this guy get pick by the Knicks next year.
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7/13/2005  10:32 AM
as for sweets - it's VERY possible that he is getting in shape and very serious about it - that's why, i believe, isiah picked up that option. not for trading purposes b/c he could've still moved him and the other team still had time to pick up the option for a 4th season.

aguirre said their #1 priority with him was changing his body. i think that's why they ain't mad he's not in summer league action b/c getting in shape is more important than playing against peter john ramos.

from what i heard - he's training with curtis martin. how don't know how legit that is but does anybody have an update on him?

sweetney for kwame should not happen.
Q for kwame should.
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7/13/2005  10:34 AM
Posted by djsunyc:


from what i heard - he's training with curtis martin. how don't know how legit that is but does anybody have an update on him?

watch curtis get him down to 260 and the jets sign him as a tight end.
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7/13/2005  10:36 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Guns who will win with your boy, Splitter and Butler?
I keep bothering Guns about Splitter, watch this guy get pick by the Knicks next year.

what is it with splitter? every single year we're gonna go through this thing with him putting in his name and then withdrawing it?
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Posted by Marv:
Posted by djsunyc:


from what i heard - he's training with curtis martin. how don't know how legit that is but does anybody have an update on him?

watch curtis get him down to 260 and the jets sign him as a tight end.

or beef him up to 320 and make him an o-lineman.
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7/13/2005  10:37 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by djsunyc:


from what i heard - he's training with curtis martin. how don't know how legit that is but does anybody have an update on him?

watch curtis get him down to 260 and the jets sign him as a tight end.

or beef him up to 320 and make him an o-lineman.

that would take all of 5 minutes!
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7/13/2005  7:24 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Look, I am one of Isiah's biggest supporter, but the interest in Walker and Kwame doesn't go well with what he is trying to do. If we can't get a big man like James/Curry/Chandler or Hunter, we need to stand pat and wait until we are able to pay more than the MLE to acquire a real center. I am sorry, but we need to take a year to marinade what we have right now. Minus TT/Penny and Houston, I think that we can do really well with what we will have available.

Posted by Bonn1997:

If you're having trouble understanding Isiah's moves, look at the lineup changes he's made:

PG: Ward and Eisley --> Marbury and Nate R
SG: Shandon Anderson --> Q-Rich, Jamal Crawford
SF: Keith Van Horn --> Trevor Ariza, Q-Rich (TT if still on the team), JYD
PF: Kurt Thomas --> Mike Sweetney, David Lee, Malik Rose
C: Dikembe Mutombo --> Channing Frye

It's pretty obvious he's trying to get young, talented, tough high ceiling players. Not every trade has worked out successfully, but if you look at the lineup changes it's clear he's trying to get that type of player.
So Isiah's hard to understand because some rumors in newspapers don't make sense to you? Maybe the newspaper authors are simply hard to undrestand, not Isiah.
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7/13/2005  8:45 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

If you're having trouble understanding Isiah's moves, look at the lineup changes he's made:

PG: Ward and Eisley --> Marbury and Nate R
SG: Shandon Anderson --> Q-Rich, Jamal Crawford
SF: Keith Van Horn --> Trevor Ariza, Q-Rich (TT if still on the team), JYD
PF: Kurt Thomas --> Mike Sweetney, David Lee, Malik Rose
C: Dikembe Mutombo --> Channing Frye

Never has it been made more clear than this illustration...I almost forgot that was our roster...HOOFAH.

It's time to get off Zeke's back...I mean, don't get me wrong, it's New york, and every single move gets analyzed, it's only fare, best city in the world (sorry redsoxfan)

Any other city and he's GM of the year this year...sht, if we make the second round of the playoffs, he's GM of the year this year.

Suddenly, everyone wants to come here...while nobody is willing to take a pay cut yet (I still think Walker is going to do it for the glory, he went to atlanta for the money and nearly committed suicide).

If walker signs for the MLE, we win it all. Take that to the bank.

Holy crap...my optimism is starting to freak ME out too. I need a binger.
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7/13/2005  8:48 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
So Isiah's hard to understand because some rumors in newspapers don't make sense to you? Maybe the newspaper authors are simply hard to undrestand, not Isiah.
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Seriously, did we even hear he was talking to san antonio about their first round picks and Rose? Nate came out of nowhere (was he even interested?) and Q for Kurt...that came out of nowhere as well.

MoT (while everyone hates the guy) was another shocker...heck, have the papers accurately predicted anything he has done?

Maybe crawford, but that was the bulls fault for dragging it on and on and on.

The papers have not predicted one thing (that I can recall)...can someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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