Posted by technomaster:

I kind of think role players/bench warmers on winning/championship teams make excellent coaches.

Former superstars rarely become good coaches-- they can't understand why their players don't see the floor as well or execute as they once did.

Former unsuccessful superstars: Doug Collins, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas

Regular talents: Starters/role players (mostly PGs): Cheeks, McMillan, Porter, Avery Johnson, Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Doc Rivers

Then you have the Xs and Os guys, career coaches who never really had pro playing careers: Fratello, JVG, SVG, Lawrence Frank

You rarely see former centers in head coaching positions because in general they weren't too concerned with everything happening on the floor as players.

I think a lot of the former dynasty Bulls role players would make good coaches: BJ Armstrong, Kerr, Pete Myers, Ron Harper

Posted by NYKBocker:

Posted by diderotn:

One reasons why Herb should not resign

What has he won throughout his basketball career???

Nada, rien, Garnix, niente= Nothing.....Herb has been a loser all of his basketball career, and it is a fact.

This is a copy and paste to my response to your post on the other thread...

You can't judge a coach by what he has done as a player. Check out Pat Riley's stats. He wasn't very good. A role player at best.

Check out Phil Jackson's stats. He was also a role player.

Gotta give Herb time. He is a NY Knick. Gotta give your own a chance first before giving a bad boy a chance.

I agree with your assessment 100%. Well, except for Ron Harper. That guy was all about instincts and talent.

Posted by MattSuspect:

There's no one out there right now. Bill Laimbeer is a halfassed WNBA coach.

Give me Martelli or someone of that caliber...mayyyybe. But don't get rid of Herb for some guy who has no real track record coaching to speak of.

You can't judge a coach by what he has done as a player. Check out Pat Riley's stats. He wasn't very good. A role player at best.

Check out Phil Jackson's stats. He was also a role player.

Gotta give Herb time. He is a NY Knick. Gotta give your own a chance first before giving a bad boy a chance.

Dang! Did Riley contribute to that title? Here is a link of his playoff stats.
http://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=RILEYPA01

Here is Herb Williams.
http://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=WILLIHE01

Here is Phil Jackson. Check out his stats on the NYK champ years.
http://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=JACKSPH01

Also, if we are going by basketball success as a player as a pre-requisite to be a good coach. How do you explain JVG, StanVG, Scott Skiles? How about Rick Carlisle? Larry Brown is top 5 right now all-time for coaches yet he never played in the NBA.

Herb wasn't a scrub. He was unlucky have played in the Magic/Bird era during his prime. He came close with Knicks as Pat's backup but stupid Jordan had to be born. He was also 1 game 7 away from a championship. Does that count?


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