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Marv
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7/6/2005  6:33 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Marbury had an all star year...he was robbed of assists when Nazr used to flub the put back and get his own rebound and then put it in (Nazr rebound + 1 marbs assist 0)

LOL!
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7/6/2005  6:37 PM
the last time i check Stephon Marbury was the man on these streets.

"Anyone who sits around waiting to hit the lottery, whether basketball or real life, in order to better their position is a loser."
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7/6/2005  6:42 PM
Posted by bigpimpin:

the last time i check Stephon Marbury was the man on these streets.
Last time I checked Marbury got robbed at a stoplight. But thats not the point, the NBA is like the stock market you gotta sell high and buy low. Right now Marbury's stock is not at its highest point.By the trade deadline his stock should be higher.

But Dont get me wrong I want Marbury to retire as a Knick.

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7/6/2005  6:46 PM
Could you do me a favor and stop trying to trade someone every year. Marbury is the best player the Knicks have.

On top of tat, this year's team figures to be the best team the Knick have had since Van Gundy left.

we may even have a coach again.

just stop it.
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7/6/2005  6:53 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

[quote]Posted by bigpimpin:

the last time i check Stephon Marbury was the man on these streets.
Last time I checked Marbury got robbed at a stoplight. But thats not the point, the NBA is like the stock market you gotta sell high and buy low. Right now Marbury's stock is not at its highest point.By the trade deadline his stock should be higher.

But Dont get me wrong I want Marbury to retire as a Knick.


Marbury's trading value isnt low--it is what it is. Just because you dont get so-called equal value doesn't mean something wont turn into a good team for the trade. These people who are saying Marbury retire as a Knick? Marbury doesnt hold water against guys like Ewing Starks Oakley,THOSE GUys are REAL Knicks, heck, he doesnt even hold water against houston or ward. Starbury came here much later in his career and hasnt been involved in anything in terms of what the 90s were.

I agree with isiah in what he is doing, I dont agree with his pick at 8. As a fan Im willing to give him his latitude, including Frye and trading whoever he wants AFTER this draft for the next two years--WITH th execption of acquiring A Walker If he wants to trade Marbury, if he wants Brown Swift or whoever else, Im on board until I see evidnece that he failed. I look at it like this, he had one try here, spent a lot of money and it didnt work, hes starting from scratch and what he feels is right, Im on board with. People say this is not right timing? well thats wrong because there are a bunch of tea,s with cap space players picks ending contracts that could satify a reasonable transaction. As long as names like Walker or Dampier Finley etc.. are not associated with Marbury, Im fine with it.

If he trades for Harrington[who I dont like but acknowledge has an ending contract]other crap and picks, thats fine.
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7/6/2005  6:55 PM
The only one of your real Knicks that Marbury isn't MUCH better than is Ewing. "Real Knicks" like "Real Yankees" is a Real Dopey Concept.
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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7/6/2005  7:01 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

[quote]Posted by bigpimpin:

the last time i check Stephon Marbury was the man on these streets.
Last time I checked Marbury got robbed at a stoplight. But thats not the point, the NBA is like the stock market you gotta sell high and buy low. Right now Marbury's stock is not at its highest point.By the trade deadline his stock should be higher.

But Dont get me wrong I want Marbury to retire as a Knick.


Marbury's trading value isnt low--it is what it is. Just because you dont get so-called equal value doesn't mean something wont turn into a good team for the trade. These people who are saying Marbury retire as a Knick? Marbury doesnt hold water against guys like Ewing Starks Oakley,THOSE GUys are REAL Knicks, heck, he doesnt even hold water against houston or ward. Starbury came here much later in his career and hasnt been involved in anything in terms of what the 90s were.

I agree with isiah in what he is doing, I dont agree with his pick at 8. As a fan Im willing to give him his latitude, including Frye and trading whoever he wants AFTER this draft for the next two years--WITH th execption of acquiring A Walker If he wants to trade Marbury, if he wants Brown Swift or whoever else, Im on board until I see evidnece that he failed. I look at it like this, he had one try here, spent a lot of money and it didnt work, hes starting from scratch and what he feels is right, Im on board with. People say this is not right timing? well thats wrong because there are a bunch of tea,s with cap space players picks ending contracts that could satify a reasonable transaction. As long as names like Walker or Dampier Finley etc.. are not associated with Marbury, Im fine with it.

If he trades for Harrington[who I dont like but acknowledge has an ending contract]other crap and picks, thats fine.
I never said Marbury Stock was low. I said its just not at its highest point. And if we trade Marbury we are obviously rebuilding. Why trade Marbury to a team (that has a bunch of expiring contracts) that is not giving up any draft picks. Even though Im not in favor of a Marbury trade we have to get Draft picks and/or Josh smith
Marv
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7/6/2005  7:09 PM
DOn't trade him. Keep building the squad around him. THis franchise has thrown such green after such CRAP that i really don't wnat to hear any griping about whatever they're committed to marbs for.
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7/6/2005  7:29 PM
Let Marbury play with this team and lets see him have a great year for the blue and orange! We are forgetting that he always wanted to be a Knick, and not just to be here, but to win a championship. If he was good in other teams, he will be great once we build him the right team, and it looks like that is happening. I really hope that we keep him, get some nice young players in different ways, and give him a team. His love for NY will take care of the rest!
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7/6/2005  7:35 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by Cookdcokehop:

[quote]Posted by bigpimpin:

the last time i check Stephon Marbury was the man on these streets.
Last time I checked Marbury got robbed at a stoplight. But thats not the point, the NBA is like the stock market you gotta sell high and buy low. Right now Marbury's stock is not at its highest point.By the trade deadline his stock should be higher.

But Dont get me wrong I want Marbury to retire as a Knick.


Marbury's trading value isnt low--it is what it is. Just because you dont get so-called equal value doesn't mean something wont turn into a good team for the trade. These people who are saying Marbury retire as a Knick? Marbury doesnt hold water against guys like Ewing Starks Oakley,THOSE GUys are REAL Knicks, heck, he doesnt even hold water against houston or ward. Starbury came here much later in his career and hasnt been involved in anything in terms of what the 90s were.

I agree with isiah in what he is doing, I dont agree with his pick at 8. As a fan Im willing to give him his latitude, including Frye and trading whoever he wants AFTER this draft for the next two years--WITH th execption of acquiring A Walker If he wants to trade Marbury, if he wants Brown Swift or whoever else, Im on board until I see evidnece that he failed. I look at it like this, he had one try here, spent a lot of money and it didnt work, hes starting from scratch and what he feels is right, Im on board with. People say this is not right timing? well thats wrong because there are a bunch of tea,s with cap space players picks ending contracts that could satify a reasonable transaction. As long as names like Walker or Dampier Finley etc.. are not associated with Marbury, Im fine with it.

If he trades for Harrington[who I dont like but acknowledge has an ending contract]other crap and picks, thats fine.
I never said Marbury Stock was low. I said its just not at its highest point. And if we trade Marbury we are obviously rebuilding. Why trade Marbury to a team (that has a bunch of expiring contracts) that is not giving up any draft picks. Even though Im not in favor of a Marbury trade we have to get Draft picks and/or Josh smith


well thats where we fcd up the first time, there are those people like me who wanted to CLEAN HOUSE when isiah came on board and I was NOT happy with the Marbury trade. I wouldve rather had let the season gone south and use our considerable assets to acquire picks for what was an EXCELLENT draft. Just imagine where we are with --for example Josh Smith Andris Biendrins and JR Smith. I wouldve rather gone this route, the picks were there to be had and we wouldve owned a solid pick ourselves--we truned it around and it was 15 if we tanked it, you are looking at pick 5


IF you believe we can win a championship with what we have in the next two years, keep Marbury, if not get rid of that albatross contract and build from scratch. hey maybe we can get rid of enough contracts jst in time so that WE could be players for Lebron
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7/6/2005  7:36 PM
I'm with many others on this subject. I honestly don't care if we trade Stephon, but don't trade him just for the sake of getting rid of him. Only pull the trigger if it honestly makes us better.
Do I think Stephon can shoulder the load and carry this team anywhere by himself? No. Nor do I buy into the "Marbury's a cancer and no team will ever win with him" nonsense.
I do like the thought of moving him for Dalembert like those rumors going around, but if we're giving them Stephon and TT's expiring contract as well as taking on all of those nasty contracts, I'd like more out of the deal, like Korver or a future #1.
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7/6/2005  8:49 PM
you know, we actually have a team in place that will flourish with marbury and marbury will flourish with as well. we have players that will cut to the basket instead of standing and watching. ariza, and q on the wings. frye on the high block. these guys complement marbury's style - something he didn't have since that one season in pheonix. i would like to see what he does with this unit and this will probably be his last shot here. if he fails, then he's as good as gone hurting his value in the process. if he flourishes, then damn, we got an elite PG.

we'll see how it all shapes up. on paper, things are looking GREAT for steph, from his complementary players to finally having a legitimate backup to give him 15 mins off a night.

now, we need a coach that will instill a system and discipline and that will command respect.

i'm VERY excited by the prospects of this team and watching how it develops.

but like others have said, as long as we don't see members of the NO THANKS CLUB here, then it's all good.
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7/6/2005  9:02 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

you know, we actually have a team in place that will flourish with marbury and marbury will flourish with as well. we have players that will cut to the basket instead of standing and watching. ariza, and q on the wings. frye on the high block. these guys complement marbury's style - something he didn't have since that one season in pheonix. i would like to see what he does with this unit and this will probably be his last shot here. if he fails, then he's as good as gone hurting his value in the process. if he flourishes, then damn, we got an elite PG.

we'll see how it all shapes up. on paper, things are looking GREAT for steph, from his complementary players to finally having a legitimate backup to give him 15 mins off a night.

now, we need a coach that will instill a system and discipline and that will command respect.

i'm VERY excited by the prospects of this team and watching how it develops.

but like others have said, as long as we don't see members of the NO THANKS CLUB here, then it's all good.

Well put, couldn't have said it better myself.

[Edited by - s3231 on 07/06/2005 21:02:37]
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7/6/2005  9:22 PM
the questions you have to answer is when will this team be able to compete for a championship and what will Marbury look like?


I watched the finals and I watched two exceedingly talented, deep teams go at it.

We're probably good enough this year to either just make the playoffs or just miss- we'll get a crappy pick as a consequence (or, don't we owe that if not lottery to the suns?).

The season after (07 draft with all the c's everyone is talking about) we'll probably also be good enough to avoid getting a good pick.

Marbury is now 30- and how many years in the league?

We need more than the marginal talent we're going to be able to draft- that or luck.

We need to tank and get some luck and talent.

Can Marbury be a key part of a championship team?

Yes, only I fear he will be 35 and moving like Derek Harper or Doc Rivers when they were with us.
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7/6/2005  9:30 PM
Well... it cost us an arm and a leg to get him... no sense in trading him away now, eh? :) We have some nice additions to the team and more balance than we've had since we traded away KVH/Doleac (and Houston got hurt). We finally have a center and a shooting guard.

Sweetney should be hungrier than ever for minutes (and not burgers)--- and Ariza is on the cusp of superstardom (or at least of becoming the next Matrix)... and a few months of recovery should do wonders for Marbury. Crawford might have more tricks up his sleeves and more game. And hey, maybe a contract year will bring the best out of Tim Thomas.

No doubt the Knicks are better than last year on paper.
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7/6/2005  10:54 PM
Posted by franco12:

Marbury is now 30- and how many years in the league?

Can Marbury be a key part of a championship team?

Yes, only I fear he will be 35 and moving like Derek Harper or Doc Rivers when they were with us.

Hey buddy, either you are trapped in a time machine which speeds ages up, or Marbury is 28. Which one is it?
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