Posted by rvhoss:

Your 05/06 knicks...

Marbs/Crawford/Nate
Q/Crawford/Ariza
TT/Q/Ariza (possibly Ariza number 2)
Sweetney/Rose/MoT
Frye/Butler/JYD

Learn it...love it.

Most possible 'acceptable' trades, even if they won't happen:
Penny and Rose to memphis for Gasol
MoT and TT to Philly for Dalembart

Then we win it all.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 07/06/2005 12:55:11]

Posted by diderotn:

I disagree...
Marb/Crawf/Nate
Q/Crawfford/Ariza
TT until midseason/Ariza/Q
Frye/Mo T/Butler
Hunter or GAdz/Frye/Butler

Isiah is working too hard not to bring in a big man to start. I just hope that the big man he picks will not be Kwame or Dampier or Walker.

Posted by simrud:

I would go with Hollinger's assesment of the trade over some halfarsed fan who thinks that one player is better to have since he has more "potential" after 5 years in the league, due, not even to glismpses of any kind of skill, but to some player being taller.

Posted by rvhoss:

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I look at it this way, Isiah is GM, he should be given latitude on this last change of course. I dont agree with pick 8, but I agree with what he has been trying to do. I am going to give him the space to do what he wants for the next two years. The big red flags to me are any aqcuistion of A Walker OR Frye performing in a medicore fashion. If he wants to get rid of steph or pick up Kwame, he has my vote.

I agree... which is why Vin Baker and Mo Taylor had me scratching my head.

I really wouldn't sleep on MoT...he was out of shape last year, but before he went on the IR, he was contributing...once he gets back in shape (which better be this summer) he's a force to reckon with...he's had a handful of PRODUCTIVE games when given the opportunity...even when he was fat.

Him and Rose are the Yin and Yan we need.

Mo T has been out of shape for 4 years

Posted by simrud:

I would go with Hollinger's assesment of the trade over some halfarsed fan who thinks that one player is better to have since he has more "potential" after 5 years in the league, due, not even to glismpses of any kind of skill, but to some player being taller.

There are variables that are not being considered. Number 1, ANYONE who watched Kwame Brown in 2003, especially late, when he had games of 30 points 20 rebounds against the Kings I believe and a few other really huge type games, belived that LAST year was Kwame's coming out party and then he got hurt before the season started and never recovered. Any smart GM would start by going back over the tapes of his 2003 games and look into his backround as a person and his injury.
I like Mike Sweetney[who also has risk variables including his weight]
But IF Kwame is 100% recovered, I still believe Kwame is the better player for what Isiah is trying to do. He showed against KT late in this year a glimpse of the ending 2003 year, when he went 8-8 in the Garden. He is 7-0 260 and he can move to 4-5 while Sweetney is pure 4, a place where I believe they want Frye to play.

Posted by TMS:

if Kwame's a bust, what do you call Sweetney? Sweetney & Kwame have very similar statlines...the difference is that Kwame is about 5 inches taller & about 5 times more athletic, while Sweetney displays more effort while he's on the floor...both are similar age...& don't give me the fact that Kwame's been in the league a whole 2 years more than Sweetney has...learning how to play NBA basketball out of HS isn't an easy transition...at least Sweetney had a couple years of Division 1 NCAA seasoning under his belt before he got here...his learning curve should have been alot less than Kwame's.

the Knicks need a solution at the C position, they have PF's on the roster to fill Sweetney's minutes...if Isiah takes a flyer on Kwame i am in full support w/his decision.