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125 blocked shots Vs 509 from Swift and 254 from Hunter,,,which is better...????
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diderotn
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7/9/2005  10:59 AM
Isiah said that he wants a shot blocker with defensive abilities, but some of the names that the media is claiming that he is interested on are none of that. Kwame and Walker are two players that really do not symbolize shotblocking nor defense. Zeke needs to get his priorities straight. OUr need is not ofense, we have enough of that from the backcourt; we need defense, not someone that will need to shoot the ball 15 times a game.
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7/9/2005  11:05 AM
Dido I love it when you argue with yourself.
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7/9/2005  11:22 AM
Posted by Marv:

Dido I love it when you argue with yourself.
Gee Whiz. I didn't know what you were talking about until I looked at the names on the last few post. Whoa
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7/9/2005  11:24 AM
Actually, Kwame offers pretty solid interior D. If you ask anyone that's watched him on more than a few occasions, they'd tell you that as long as you involve him early on in the game (offensively), he'll keep it going for most of the game. He's also a pretty good shotblocker, and against some of the better bigs in the game, he's been able to shut them down.

BUT.....I still don't want any piece of him. I'm just trying to portray both the pros and cons of Kwame, and for me, the cons outweight the pros. He's got potential, even though he's more or less wasted it in Washington, and he's an athletic specimen and is still improving his offense, but IMO, he isn't worth more than the MLE, and he'll most likely be getting more than that. Frye, sorry to say, reminds me alot of Charles Smith. He can fun the floor, and block some shots, but isn't dominant by any mean despite his size, and can get overpowered in the paint. With a guy like Charles Smith, you typically need someone NOT like Charles Smith next to him. Lol. So that means someone that is a dominant, experienced Big man, ORRRR someone that hasn't been a stiff like Kwame, and that could easily give us more than we'd be expecting. To be honest, I'm not sure who that is just yet. I love Dalembert, but I don't see the Sixers NOT locking him up. Stro could be gotten, but only by a S & T where we'd have to take on yet MORE salary. And Jerome James will def. be available, but has he REALLY changed it around, or is this just your everyday surge before a big payday? I read that article about him a few months ago, where he claimed he had a whole new perspective on the game and how he needs to grow up and take responsibility for himself. Ray Allen seemd to believe him, but that could easily be a ploy by James' agent to get the ball rolling. I couldn't say.

I think James will be most available, but whether we should take a chance on him, who knows. The truth is any big, besides Walker (who we should NOT get), is gonna be a risk in some shape or form. That's why I'm staying optimistic, but tentavily I guess.

I'll get back to Ghostbusters II. Peace.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/9/2005  11:52 AM
I agree. I am not willing to trade Sweetney for Kwame. At this point, we don't need to find a dominant big man. All we need is a serviceable big that can rebound and block shots. Rome was not build in one day, with time, a dominant will be available. By then, I hope that the Knicks will have a much better cap situation to be able to afford whomever that dominant big man will be.

All we need from our boys is to help our ball club to be competitive and make the playoffs, at least for next season. After that, we can concentrate at winning the big prize. Right now, we need to get that bad taste out of our mouths...
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7/9/2005  11:54 AM
Posted by diderotn:

I agree. I am not willing to trade Sweetney for Kwame. At this point, we don't need to find a dominant big man. All we need is a serviceable big that can rebound and block shots. Rome was not build in one day, with time, a dominant will be available. By then, I hope that the Knicks will have a much better cap situation to be able to afford whomever that dominant big man will be.

All we need from our boys is to help our ball club to be competitive and make the playoffs, at least for next season. After that, we can concentrate at winning the big prize. Right now, we need to get that bad taste out of our mouths...

I agree with you here. Sweetney could give us a lot more off the bench and contribute to winning than Crawford can do starting and ruining the flow of the offense and its easier to put together a backcourt than a good frontcourt rotation.

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7/9/2005  11:58 AM
Well, here's the problem with that thinking. I'm no GM, but take one look at the cap situation, and it's clear we won't even have any cap space until 2009!!! Unless we find a suitor for Marbury, and the way it looks there are none, then, quite simply, we'll be stuck with what we got. Better start getting used to 1st rounders and MLE FA's, b/c with the Dolans in charge, and Isiah most likely unwilling to REALLY part ways with Steph, I see our roster changing very little from here until next season.

The hope is we get lucky with a big man FA and they really turn it up in NY..... that's a longshot though.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/9/2005  12:02 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Well, here's the problem with that thinking. I'm no GM, but take one look at the cap situation, and it's clear we won't even have any cap space until 2009!!! Unless we find a suitor for Marbury, and the way it looks there are none, then, quite simply, we'll be stuck with what we got. Better start getting used to 1st rounders and MLE FA's, b/c with the Dolans in charge, and Isiah most likely unwilling to REALLY part ways with Steph, I see our roster changing very little from here until next season.

The hope is we get lucky with a big man FA and they really turn it up in NY..... that's a longshot though.

Great minds think alike. Problem is Dolan doesn't have a great mind. I'm reaching the point where I'm giving up hope that Marbury will be traded because realistically its not going to happen unfornately and we'll be a 30-40win team til 2009 at least. Having a franchise player who is payed in the $20mils who shouldn't be your franchise player really slows down the rebuilding process.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/09/2005 12:04:13]
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7/9/2005  12:10 PM
exactly, and the funny thing is (or scary if you really think about it), is that every team that's traded Marbury has improved dramatically only a year or two afterwards.

if the Dolans really, I mean REALLY cared about winning, and giving the fans a respectable product, then they'd agree we need to find a way to deal Marbury. With Q and Crawford being pretty affordable for their expected production on the court, and Nate Robinson and Channing Frye making us younger and more athletic, I think you almost have to give up on Marbury. Isiah seems to like a run and gun style, with improved D, and Steph isn't suited for either.

I could give you about 20 more reasons, but I'm giving up on this. Marbury won't be traded, even though he should. Ehh.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/9/2005  5:32 PM
how about kwame for crawford and sweets? I am a wizards season ticket holder and knick fan too.This trade helps both teams. Kwame does have upside and is an easy 10 points 7 rebounds at center. sweets is out of shape but is local DC boy and crawford needs more minutes than the knicks have for him. Likely works under s cap too.
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7/9/2005  5:36 PM
Posted by rrini:

how about kwame for crawford and sweets? I am a wizards season ticket holder and knick fan too.This trade helps both teams. Kwame does have upside and is an easy 10 points 7 rebounds at center. sweets is out of shape but is local DC boy and crawford needs more minutes than the knicks have for him. Likely works under s cap too.

I would do it but only for the Wiz 2007 #1 pick in return.

If not then we'll move on and let Atlanta gets ripped off as Kwame won't be happy playing 2nd fiddle to Marvin and won't try
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7/9/2005  9:13 PM
At this point, we have to get rid of anyone who is inconsistant...Crawff, TT, Mo T, all those three have to go, because we can't afford to retain anyone who is inconsistant anymore. that is why we can't afford to trade for Kwame...
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