Posted by Rich:

I give Isiah a B. An A is reserved for getting great value picks. I don't think the Knicks did that.

Didn't you kill the first two picks. How can you give him that grade now.

I am very happy with this draft. I stayed up till 3.45am to hear it and I wasn't disappointed. Isiah got this teams needs spot on.

We needed a Center? Got it. Shotblocking? Got that too. Scorer in the post? Yup.

Backup point? Got it. (and what a pick by the way. You guy know I dont normally make predictions, but Nate is gonna be a star in New York, Im telling you). Needed heart, fire and defense? Can you spell Nate?

Depth at SG? Got that too. Serious 3 threat? Yup. SG with size who can rebound, with a mid-range game? Got that too.

Needed someone taller then 6'8" to crash the board and apply pressure at back-up C? I dont know much about David Lee, but it sounds like we got that too.

If we would have picked Green at the 8, we would have had 2 pgs, 4 sgs and 3 sfs. Thats 9 players on an active roster of 12. Plus noone over 6'8", Bruno excluded.

And yes, Im gonna say it. Im happy we took Frye, and not some pimply 16 year old with the highest pick weve had in decades. YOu damn right i am!! What, you expect a 17 year old kid who weighs 290 pounds NOW, - and a knee that can only handle 260 - to sit on the bench for 2 years, and not expect any repercussions on his physical and mental state? Bynum would have been a mistake here, big time. Not that hes a bad player, just not in this town, not at 8. I think that not only was Frye the safe pick, he was the RIGHT pick as well.

But most of all, I LOVE the Nate Robinson pick. Maybe its just the little guy mentality, but this guy is the truth. I may be overhyping a bit here, but im talking Iverson and Wade type of player. He will be great. And the man most willing to take a chance on vertically-challenged players is his GM.

Sorry about your own feelings on the matter Guns, but I'm very excited about next year.


I give him an A!

Dude!!! You must be Layden in disguise...This was the best draft in years by the Knicks...Even Spike approved of the choices....

Posted by sbensol74:

I give isiah a C- for this draft only for the fact that I dont believe we're any better now than we were yesterday.

Dude, you hit it right in the head...I agree with you a 100%.

Frye will be ten times the player Petro is. I don't understand why people are intrigued with the prospect of teaching someone who doesn't know how to play. How is that better than grabbing someone who already knows how to play? What is the fascination? Picking players who win in college is a good formula. It worked for the Bulls last year, getting Deng and Gordon. Knowing how to win is a big deal in basketball, and people here are obsessed with guys who not only don't know how to win, they don't know how to play. That strikes me as ridiculous.

You are kidding me with this quote right? I usualy agree with you, but to ask us to refrain from giving a draft grade is really being a wet blanket.

Espn has grades, Sports Illustrated grades...should no draft ever be graded until after they play a full season?

Seriously...someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

I say B+, only because I have no idea who the last guy we picked is...we got everything we said we needed AND wanted after yesterday.

Lineup:
Marbs, Craw, Nate
Q, Craw
TT, Ariza, Q
Sweets, MoT/Rose
Frye, Rose, Butler

Just a guess

Posted by bigpimpin:

Posted by djsunyc:

we got a center - frye
we got a game changing backup point guard - nate
lee - i'm not sure where he fits but i think he's nbdl for a year then jyd will be traded
42" vertical!?!?!?!?

but this team's style of play is finally taking shape.

guards: marbury, crawford, q, nate
forwards: ariza, sweetney, lee
center: frye

so that's the CORE of the team over the next 3 years.

this now let's us make a big time POWER move with tim and penny's deal.

hey - i was DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN on this team as recent as 6 weeks ago. i wanted to get rid of the big $$$'s contract. but after the q&a, i accepted the fact that it will never happen. so now, i look at our young core and i LIKE IT. i LOVE the nate pick. LOVE IT. i think frye is going to be good for us. does he have the upside of bynum? maybe not. but i think he will be a solid player for us and if we get someone like curry or a bigger player and slide him over the the 4, then we got something cooking.

did they slip me kool-aid at the q&a - it's possible but it's in me now and let's keep it coming...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06/28/2005 23:57:26]

could everyone please allow these players to do something with the Knicks before we start handing out apprasials. please. it will make your posts seem more believable.

i mean, think about it. it's like handing out report cards on the 1st day of school.

what are the grades based on?

how can you say nate robinson is a game changing back-up point guard when he hasn't played not 1 second in the nba. oh, i get it cause you see the similarities between nate and the little midget in denver.

oh god

I'd give him an A too because we added four very nice young athletes who fill needs. I would have given him an A+ if he had drafted Bynum instead of Frye.

Posted by fishmike:

I'm not sure we are much better either, but we are much younger and much closer to a style of play. Thats good. Whats not good is with 3 first rounders what we come away with is 3 role players. I like them all, but I also think we could have done better at every spot, except 30, where I think Isiah just took the BPA and I agree Lee was the BPA.

I give him a C+ also. I would say this draft helps rebuild the team with youth, but the talent level isnt impressive.

Had he drafted Green at 8 I think he would have been giving us a shot at a real franchise player.

How would you feel if our draft was Green, Petro and Lee?

I'm not down on this draft, but I'm hardly impressed either.

Fish, you've summed it up for me. I agree totally.

Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

Frye will not be alone in the front court. IT will make a move with, Pennyt, TT and the MLE that will bring in a young guy who can play C.

Man, this is KEY! Once we get that Center, we can finally have a complete team.

Dude!!! we all know that you are an Isiah hater...Be a fan for once in you life...If the man does well, give him props...He did an excellent job, considering how we have done in the past.

Posted by MS:

I really don't know why anyone is excited about this draft especially people that know the game....

What are Fryes numbers going to be, not better than Kurt Thomas thats for sure, he averaged 7.4 rebounds in college why are his numbers going to go up. Sweetney average 10 is 3 inches shorter than him.....And Blocking shots in college isn't as challenging as you think if you have the size...Green and Granger would have been the better pick in all honesty, even taking a chance on Brynum

The Suns pick for us I just don't understand, Robinson was not going in the first round, and you have a chance to take Jack (leader, tough defender took his team to the final four, at 6'4) or Hodge who is versatile can handle the ball and create mismatches, or even Petro, who we could leave in France and let him develop....We are rebuilding not reloading......

And the 30th made no sense, Lee is a good player but no for this team, we should have went big, Blachte, Taft, Martinas A, or someone...

Take a chance, Isiah will you instead of adding mega contracts for guys that don't play D, use you head for once

I think a C is in order for this draft

We could have had a future star, and a couple of nice role players, now we just have a couple of role players