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3/6/2013  10:04 PM
MSG3 wrote:LeBron better get the refs a table at Prime 112 in Miami for gift wrapping this game.

Wait till the playoffs. ;)

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3/6/2013  10:05 PM
Lakers are going to lose to the pelicans.
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3/6/2013  10:32 PM
I can't understand exactly why I'm rooting for the Lakers to make the playoffs...
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3/6/2013  10:34 PM
The Pelicans lost in the most TANK fashion I have ever seen any team lose...David Stern should be ashamed of himself.
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3/6/2013  10:34 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Lakers are going to lose to the pelicans.

Would believe me if I told you the Lakers won by 6?

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3/6/2013  10:51 PM
OH MY CRAP IS THOMAS ROBINSON A STUD MUFFIN....

Insane what Morey did to the Kings...I would trade Life for Morey.

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3/6/2013  11:06 PM
Harp calling the mavs. Looks like mavs are gonna win. Where is Lin in closing minutes?
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3/6/2013  11:13 PM
Aww, just saw the end of the Mavs/Rockets game. Refs got it right, unfortunately for the Rockets. Was looking for Lin, why wasn't he in the game?
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3/6/2013  11:16 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Harp calling the mavs. Looks like mavs are gonna win. Where is Lin in closing minutes?

This is a game where you would like to see a coach go back to his starter. The game was tight all 4th qrt so it's not like they were lacking without Lin.... also it was Dirk/Carter/Mayo knocking down the big shots not sure Lin could have done anything about that....nevertheless their main problem is allowing teams to break 100pts on them on a regular basis and looking for the 3 ball almost at all costs. Mchale needs to address those latter issues immediately. He also didn't have Asik on the floor either and the Rockets lost a couple key rebounds late. Games can't be won with offense only.

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3/6/2013  11:24 PM
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Harp calling the mavs. Looks like mavs are gonna win. Where is Lin in closing minutes?

This is a game where you would like to see a coach go back to his starter. The game was tight all 4th qrt so it's not like they were lacking without Lin.... also it was Dirk/Carter/Mayo knocking down the big shots not sure Lin could have done anything about that....nevertheless their main problem is allowing teams to break 100pts on them on a regular basis and looking for the 3 ball almost at all costs. Mchale needs to address those latter issues immediately. He also didn't have Asik on the floor either and the Rockets lost a couple key rebounds late. Games can't be won with offense only.

I basically check team box scores for fantasy bball. Lin seems to be splitting minutes with Beverly. Prior to that it was Douglas. Do you think he is going to lose more time to brooks?

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3/6/2013  11:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/6/2013  11:58 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Harp calling the mavs. Looks like mavs are gonna win. Where is Lin in closing minutes?

This is a game where you would like to see a coach go back to his starter. The game was tight all 4th qrt so it's not like they were lacking without Lin.... also it was Dirk/Carter/Mayo knocking down the big shots not sure Lin could have done anything about that....nevertheless their main problem is allowing teams to break 100pts on them on a regular basis and looking for the 3 ball almost at all costs. Mchale needs to address those latter issues immediately. He also didn't have Asik on the floor either and the Rockets lost a couple key rebounds late. Games can't be won with offense only.

I basically check team box scores for fantasy bball. Lin seems to be splitting minutes with Beverly. Prior to that it was Douglas. Do you think he is going to lose more time to brooks?

I think Lin gets his 25-30 no matter what but they might be sparse in nature, you never know with Mchale, he'll sit guys for long stretches. He even gave Harden a nice blow tonight. I will say it does appear he's trying to give everyone a chance for the most part. The only 2 players he played barely at all this season are Jones and nutty White.

With Lin I think it comes down to turnovers and constant motor. If can get his energy up more and his turnovers down his minutes will more than likely stabilize, if not then fans will probably see more of the present.

At the same time I think some Lin lovers/haters are making this a bigger issue than it is. Last month he logged 32min/gm that's par for the course starter minutes. Sometimes fans are looking for any angle to hate and some any angle to cry foul if they deem not enough opportunity for shine or glory.

He may want to keep him fresher for a post-season run...I have been impressed at the fact he's increased his 3pt % every month this season. He's developing into a decent shooter.

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3/7/2013  12:04 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Harp calling the mavs. Looks like mavs are gonna win. Where is Lin in closing minutes?

This is a game where you would like to see a coach go back to his starter. The game was tight all 4th qrt so it's not like they were lacking without Lin.... also it was Dirk/Carter/Mayo knocking down the big shots not sure Lin could have done anything about that....nevertheless their main problem is allowing teams to break 100pts on them on a regular basis and looking for the 3 ball almost at all costs. Mchale needs to address those latter issues immediately. He also didn't have Asik on the floor either and the Rockets lost a couple key rebounds late. Games can't be won with offense only.

I basically check team box scores for fantasy bball. Lin seems to be splitting minutes with Beverly. Prior to that it was Douglas. Do you think he is going to lose more time to brooks?

For whatever reason this coaching staff does not like Lin. They like to bench him in the 4th even when he is playing well. I would not be surprised if Lin is out of the rotation all together.

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3/7/2013  12:14 AM
McHale is really a horrible coach. He also benched Asik who was giving the mavs headaches before the 4th.
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3/7/2013  1:24 AM
Lakers have been finding a way to win more often than not. Kobe has been really digging deep and being more Lebron than Kobe in terms of doing everything on the court. Still don't like D12's attitude, but they have to have him giving more effort in order to win. He sulks on the court and jogs up and down far too often.

MDA has a tough situation with the roster they have left. Really hurts not having a deep bench. Still the team hasn't given up on him and have been fighting back even when they aren't playing well. They're 14-6 over the last 20 games. This all started with the change in Kobe being more willing to distribute and make his teammates better. The 1st game of the last 20 games stretch was when he had his 14 assist game and since then he's been leading his team and helping to set up his teammates more and it has worked. Kobe buying into this role has been the key to the Laker turnaround. He had high assist games before that, but he didn't fully commit to it like he did since that game. It finally sunk in that he has to play that way to help his team win. He knows now that he can still score a ton and also make his teammates better. It's clear that when he looks to help his teammates the team plays better:


Kobe
STATS MIN FG% REB AST BLK STL PF PTS
In Wins 36.5 .483 6.2 6.7 0.3 1.3 2.0 24.5
In Losses 39.8 .462 4.6 4.4 0.2 1.3 2.5 30.1

Doesn't matter if you're Lebron, Kobe or Melo this is something that works across the board. Star players that are leaders can not only get their own, but help their teammates to be better too.

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3/7/2013  1:39 AM
nixluva wrote:Lakers have been finding a way to win more often than not. Kobe has been really digging deep and being more Lebron than Kobe in terms of doing everything on the court. Still don't like D12's attitude, but they have to have him giving more effort in order to win. He sulks on the court and jogs up and down far too often.

MDA has a tough situation with the roster they have left. Really hurts not having a deep bench. Still the team hasn't given up on him and have been fighting back even when they aren't playing well. They're 14-6 over the last 20 games. This all started with the change in Kobe being more willing to distribute and make his teammates better. The 1st game of the last 20 games stretch was when he had his 14 assist game and since then he's been leading his team and helping to set up his teammates more and it has worked. Kobe buying into this role has been the key to the Laker turnaround. He had high assist games before that, but he didn't fully commit to it like he did since that game. It finally sunk in that he has to play that way to help his team win. He knows now that he can still score a ton and also make his teammates better. It's clear that when he looks to help his teammates the team plays better:


Kobe
STATS MIN FG% REB AST BLK STL PF PTS
In Wins 36.5 .483 6.2 6.7 0.3 1.3 2.0 24.5
In Losses 39.8 .462 4.6 4.4 0.2 1.3 2.5 30.1

Doesn't matter if you're Lebron, Kobe or Melo this is something that works across the board. Star players that are leaders can not only get their own, but help their teammates to be better too.

You have to be the greatest MDA fan of all time.

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3/7/2013  2:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/7/2013  2:02 AM
nixluva wrote:Lakers have been finding a way to win more often than not. Kobe has been really digging deep and being more Lebron than Kobe in terms of doing everything on the court. Still don't like D12's attitude, but they have to have him giving more effort in order to win. He sulks on the court and jogs up and down far too often.

MDA has a tough situation with the roster they have left. Really hurts not having a deep bench. Still the team hasn't given up on him and have been fighting back even when they aren't playing well. They're 14-6 over the last 20 games. This all started with the change in Kobe being more willing to distribute and make his teammates better. The 1st game of the last 20 games stretch was when he had his 14 assist game and since then he's been leading his team and helping to set up his teammates more and it has worked. Kobe buying into this role has been the key to the Laker turnaround. He had high assist games before that, but he didn't fully commit to it like he did since that game. It finally sunk in that he has to play that way to help his team win. He knows now that he can still score a ton and also make his teammates better. It's clear that when he looks to help his teammates the team plays better:


Kobe
STATS MIN FG% REB AST BLK STL PF PTS
In Wins 36.5 .483 6.2 6.7 0.3 1.3 2.0 24.5
In Losses 39.8 .462 4.6 4.4 0.2 1.3 2.5 30.1

Doesn't matter if you're Lebron, Kobe or Melo this is something that works across the board. Star players that are leaders can not only get their own, but help their teammates to be better too.

Has Kobe bought in to MDA plan or MDA has bought into Kobe's plan???..One would think MDA would prefer Nash to be the facilitator, no??..Ball movement with the open guy taking the shot??..Not anymore??

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3/7/2013  6:00 AM
Mchale benched Lin for Beverley entire 4th in a VERY close game with Beverley bringing energy, but almost nothing else. Jeremy Lin's turnovers are the reasons he wasn't out there. He already had 3 and he didn't even sniffed the 4th quarter. Lin coughs the ball up a a lot especially during crunch time.
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3/7/2013  9:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/7/2013  9:17 AM
playa2 wrote:Mchale benched Lin for Beverley entire 4th in a VERY close game with Beverley bringing energy, but almost nothing else. Jeremy Lin's turnovers are the reasons he wasn't out there. He already had 3 and he didn't even sniffed the 4th quarter. Lin coughs the ball up a a lot especially during crunch time.

He had 1 bad turnover. The other 2 were from designed rocket plays that is high risk that McHale likes to execute. Only Lin and harden initiates these plays.

Also, offense was horrible when in the 4th. Almost entirely ISo plays when harden came back in. That is when they lost the game. Lin also played well defensively. Mile James and collison did not burn him and Lin was actually great at doubling on dirk and Marion.

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3/7/2013  9:33 AM
Im guessing McHale doesn't appreciate Lin freelancing in the 4th quarter.
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3/7/2013  9:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/7/2013  9:45 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Im guessing McHale doesn't appreciate Lin freelancing in the 4th quarter.

If you watch the game you can see that he really doesn't freelance. That is one of the complaints about Lin's game in the rocket forums. He is too conformant with McHale and the coaching staff. The main argument there is that Lin is caught in a power struggle with Morey and McHale. They likened it to the scene in Powerball when Morey traded McHale favorites in PPAt and Morris.

Lin played really well in the 1st 3 quarters.
12 points, .500 FG%, .500 3PtFG%, 3 assists, 3 TO, 1 rebound. He should have had a couple of steals but the recorded it to the player that deflected the ball and Lin picking up the ball from weakside help. He also should have had at least 3-5 more assists but Asik was at it again fumbling balls. Montijunas missing open 3s and Harden even missing a layup from Lin.

McHale said Lin did not do anything wrong. He just thought Beverley was doing pretty well. This even though Beverley recorded 2 assists in the first couple of min in the 4th, he registered a donut all across the stat sheet.

EDIT: That is also one of my peeves with Lin. Dude is just too conformant. That and his 3 pt shooting which he is slowly fixing.

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