GustavBahler wrote:Im glad its finally over, but one of them is still going to be president. The way things are going, wouldn't be surprised if the southern states start seceeding in the next decade. Unless someone or something brings this country together.

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im glad its finally over, but one of them is still going to be president. The way things are going, wouldn't be surprised if the southern states start seceeding in the next decade. Unless someone or something brings this country together.

The country is doing pretty well if you look at most indicators. I highly doubt that would happen. States would give up all the federal support they receive just as a protest? Then their roads, health system, education, and safety all fall apart.

I lived in the south for more than 20 years. I don't believe you appreciate the level of anger, and mistrust out there at the federal govt, right or wrong. And its only getting worse.

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im glad its finally over, but one of them is still going to be president. The way things are going, wouldn't be surprised if the southern states start seceeding in the next decade. Unless someone or something brings this country together.

The country is doing pretty well if you look at most indicators. I highly doubt that would happen. States would give up all the federal support they receive just as a protest? Then their roads, health system, education, and safety all fall apart.

I lived in the south for more than 20 years. I don't believe you appreciate the level of anger, and mistrust out there at the federal govt, right or wrong. And its only getting worse.

That said, if a state like Alabama or Mississippi wanted to leave, I wouldn't be heartbroken. I'd feel bad for people in the state who wanted to stay though.

nyk4ever wrote:if you need a newspaper, tv, radio or internet to tell you who to vote for, than you shouldn't be allowed to vote to begin with.

GustavBahler wrote:Im glad its finally over, but one of them is still going to be president. The way things are going, wouldn't be surprised if the southern states start seceeding in the next decade. Unless someone or something brings this country together.

In a sign that the legal team for the Trump campaign is aggressively laying the groundwork for potential legal challenges -- big and small -- lawyers have gone to state court in Nevada in an early vote dispute.

They are suing Joe P. Gloria, the Clark County registrar of voters, over a decision they allege he made to keep polling locations open "two hours beyond the designated closing time." The lawsuit targets polling places in the greater Las Vegas area that have larger minority voting precincts.

Wanting as few people to vote as possible...so "American."

Nalod wrote:America, make 72 payments and defer the hard work to the truck.

LMAO, just bought my first pickup. Its a 4x4, but like a luxury car inside. You would be surprised how sophisticated these trucks are now. Rival luxury cars for high tech features. I love the V-8, the transmission not so much, but it still can move, and tow stuff.

I would like to know where each candidate stands on policy, such as triangle, and PnR defense

Nalod wrote:My heart operation cost $100,000 6 years ago.
Health care insurance with high deductible is awful if nothing happens.
If you get something bad, or in a car accident, etc, it is devastating.

Wow! Glad you are still with us though.
I think I brought this up earlier in the thread regarding healthcare in Germany vs. The States. Germany has some pretty good surgeons but the health care costs are MUCH less here.
I think that is why Obamacare is so dangerous right now.

I know life is valuable, but it is hard to understand how they come up with that figure. I know it adds up, but I just have a feeling the costs are way overpriced.
I mean how many hours was that operation? What was the breakdown? I'd love to see a comparison vs here in Germany. (Mind you, quite a few German doctors go to America
as that is where the money is...)

Nalod wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Nalod wrote:My heart operation cost $100,000 6 years ago.
Health care insurance with high deductible is awful if nothing happens.
If you get something bad, or in a car accident, etc, it is devastating.

Wow! Glad you are still with us though.
I think I brought this up earlier in the thread regarding healthcare in Germany vs. The States. Germany has some pretty good surgeons but the health care costs are MUCH less here.
I think that is why Obamacare is so dangerous right now.

I know life is valuable, but it is hard to understand how they come up with that figure. I know it adds up, but I just have a feeling the costs are way overpriced.
I mean how many hours was that operation? What was the breakdown? I'd love to see a comparison vs here in Germany. (Mind you, quite a few German doctors go to America
as that is where the money is...)

do you mean its much less IN Germany?

Sorry, I'm in Germany, guess you have missed me mentioning that but I should have been more clear.

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im glad its finally over, but one of them is still going to be president. The way things are going, wouldn't be surprised if the southern states start seceeding in the next decade. Unless someone or something brings this country together.

The country is doing pretty well if you look at most indicators. I highly doubt that would happen. States would give up all the federal support they receive just as a protest? Then their roads, health system, education, and safety all fall apart.

I lived in the south for more than 20 years. I don't believe you appreciate the level of anger, and mistrust out there at the federal govt, right or wrong. And its only getting worse.

I'm sure people are angry, but it's not enough anger to actually make a state secede IMO.

That said, if a state like Alabama or Mississippi wanted to leave, I wouldn't be heartbroken. I'd feel bad for people in the state who wanted to stay though.

I said if things dont improve over the next decade. Hell, some left leaning states might do the same thing if they get tired of sending red states more in federal dollars than they send back. I cant see another decade of this increasing acrimony without a serious shock to the system. Maybe Trump is it, IDK. Hopefully it doesnt get worse than these candidates.