fishmike wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we most definitely give iHart the bag. No reason not to keep Mitch unless it's part of a bigger trade. Precious will be tough to convince to stay when he's clearly only part of rotation when Mitch is hurt. So the decision becomes whether you want a more reliable Precious or the best ORBer in the league in Mitch.

most we can give him is 175% of what he made this year ($9.2mm -> $16mm). $16mm is a decision. He's really good and obviously we like him alot. It's another choice for the FO, but they have a lot of options.

Yeah he is getting the $16m.

I don't know, would a team offer him something in the $20M starting range? That's a lot.

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we most definitely give iHart the bag. No reason not to keep Mitch unless it's part of a bigger trade. Precious will be tough to convince to stay when he's clearly only part of rotation when Mitch is hurt. So the decision becomes whether you want a more reliable Precious or the best ORBer in the league in Mitch.

most we can give him is 175% of what he made this year ($9.2mm -> $16mm). $16mm is a decision. He's really good and obviously we like him alot. It's another choice for the FO, but they have a lot of options.

Yeah he is getting the $16m.

I don't know, would a team offer him something in the $20M starting range? That's a lot.

doubt it, I mean he's still a guy thats never played 30mpg and can't space the floor. Teams aren't spending big money at C.

and all that being said I'd be shocked if Ihart left this situation to try to squeeze 2-3m per year.

i used to advocate for Donovan, and probably still do but not as strongly. Guys are playing for each other, playing tough D, hitting clutch shots. i can't think of a single player i would want if it would disrupt that

both Brunson and Randle are underpaid and in that regard set an example of some sacrifice. Guys have a chance to achieve something special. They'll all be financially set. Issue is whether they sacrifice some for the experience of a lifetime

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fishmike wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we most definitely give iHart the bag. No reason not to keep Mitch unless it's part of a bigger trade. Precious will be tough to convince to stay when he's clearly only part of rotation when Mitch is hurt. So the decision becomes whether you want a more reliable Precious or the best ORBer in the league in Mitch.

most we can give him is 175% of what he made this year ($9.2mm -> $16mm). $16mm is a decision. He's really good and obviously we like him alot. It's another choice for the FO, but they have a lot of options.

Yeah he is getting the $16m.

I don't know, would a team offer him something in the $20M starting range? That's a lot.

doubt it, I mean he's still a guy thats never played 30mpg and can't space the floor. Teams aren't spending big money at C.

and all that being said I'd be shocked if Ihart left this situation to try to squeeze 2-3m per year.

OKC... they have the space. You give him 4 years $80mm (what we gave Josh Hart). Put IHart at center, move Chet to PF, Jalen at the 3, Dort at 2 SGA at the 1, Giddey can come off the bench. That's a sick line up on both ends

if OKC wants to pay him 20m and Ihart wants to leave u tip your hat. Just dont see either of those things happening.

Long term a guy like CHET is better suited as a stretch 5 and rim protector, not sure he's a guy you want guarding guys on the perimeter and taking his length away from the basket. Same thing I said about KP for years and eventually despite not wanting to, KP plays C.

fishmike wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we most definitely give iHart the bag. No reason not to keep Mitch unless it's part of a bigger trade. Precious will be tough to convince to stay when he's clearly only part of rotation when Mitch is hurt. So the decision becomes whether you want a more reliable Precious or the best ORBer in the league in Mitch.

most we can give him is 175% of what he made this year ($9.2mm -> $16mm). $16mm is a decision. He's really good and obviously we like him alot. It's another choice for the FO, but they have a lot of options.

Yeah he is getting the $16m.

I don't know, would a team offer him something in the $20M starting range? That's a lot.

doubt it, I mean he's still a guy thats never played 30mpg and can't space the floor. Teams aren't spending big money at C.

and all that being said I'd be shocked if Ihart left this situation to try to squeeze 2-3m per year.

OKC... they have the space. You give him 4 years $80mm (what we gave Josh Hart). Put IHart at center, move Chet to PF, Jalen at the 3, Dort at 2 SGA at the 1, Giddey can come off the bench. That's a sick line up on both ends

I listen to a lot of Knicks podcasts, they held a pregame show for our game with OKC with OKC beat writers and asked them about the idea of them throwing the bag at iHart. They said they believe no chance. They want Chet at the 5 long term.

Also, pretty crazy point they made was that OKC simply does not sign free agents. It's not part of their team building strategy. The biggest FA contract they have ever given out was Patrick Patterson in 2017 for 5.5M per year....lol

They are more likely to preserve the cap space to obtain picks and simply resign their own stars into their tight budget. They know they will need to spend to keep this core together and aren't going to ruin it by recklessly handing out ancillary contracts before guys get their big paydays.

DLeethal wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we most definitely give iHart the bag. No reason not to keep Mitch unless it's part of a bigger trade. Precious will be tough to convince to stay when he's clearly only part of rotation when Mitch is hurt. So the decision becomes whether you want a more reliable Precious or the best ORBer in the league in Mitch.

most we can give him is 175% of what he made this year ($9.2mm -> $16mm). $16mm is a decision. He's really good and obviously we like him alot. It's another choice for the FO, but they have a lot of options.

Yeah he is getting the $16m.

I don't know, would a team offer him something in the $20M starting range? That's a lot.

doubt it, I mean he's still a guy thats never played 30mpg and can't space the floor. Teams aren't spending big money at C.

and all that being said I'd be shocked if Ihart left this situation to try to squeeze 2-3m per year.

OKC... they have the space. You give him 4 years $80mm (what we gave Josh Hart). Put IHart at center, move Chet to PF, Jalen at the 3, Dort at 2 SGA at the 1, Giddey can come off the bench. That's a sick line up on both ends

I listen to a lot of Knicks podcasts, they held a pregame show for our game with OKC with OKC beat writers and asked them about the idea of them throwing the bag at iHart. They said they believe no chance. They want Chet at the 5 long term.

Also, pretty crazy point they made was that OKC simply does not sign free agents. It's not part of their team building strategy. The biggest FA contract they have ever given out was Patrick Patterson in 2017 for 5.5M per year....lol

They are more likely to preserve the cap space to obtain picks and simply resign their own stars into their tight budget. They know they will need to spend to keep this core together and aren't going to ruin it by recklessly handing out ancillary contracts before guys get their big paydays.

yea I mean I could see them signing a stopgap C for a year or two, but no way can I see OKC signing a young C to a long term deal and going with CHET at the PF long term.

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That said the guy had a massive 3rd Q in Game 3 and a massive 1st Q game 1 I believe and I think we've contained him outside of that. Shooting well under 40% this series outside of game 3.