martin wrote:For a top 3 pick Barrett looks horrible to me. Horrible defender. Can’t shoot. Bad decision maker. Not explosive. Looks slow.

What makes him talented or special?

I wanted to see a little more of Hinton, who I don't think played in the 2nd half, and less of Barrett, who probably needed to sit and watch.

You wonder what is going on in his head when he's seeing Iggy, his fellow Canadian, playing the way he did.

I didn't research Barrett that well because he was the consensus pick at 3. The Texas Tech kid, Jarrett Culver intrigued me a bit, but I thought Barrett, or Morant, if Memphis took Barrett, was a no brainer.

Uptown wrote:Who was the Knick that looked like an allstar years ago? Was it Lampe?

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The media would have destroyed the front office if we didn’t pick Barrett. As of right now he looks like a project second round pick who needs d league time. His shot is aweful, his excuse is he hasn’t played since his last duke game ? WTF this kid needs to be taking shooting lessons daily like 1000 shots a day .

Iggy looks like the better player!

Now with that said Barrett is only 18, but man he is raw! Dotson and frank should have no problem beating this kid in the rotation.

TLover wrote:We had arguably 3 starters play tonight (Robinson,Knox, & Barrett) and we lost to the suns summer league team that did not suit up their 2 first round picks - pathetic

RJ is pressing too much....trying to prove his worth, instead of just letting the game come to him and been a point forward. I'm not worried about RJ....between his confidence, steve nash, and his dad pro skills.....he will show his worth. His main skill set is what he did at duke....played down hill.....ignite the transition offense. He has all around skills....but until he has that 1 skill that he can lean on, he will continue to look like this. Give him time....Hes well liked, very coachable....I'm sure coach K is in his ear as we speak.

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TLover wrote:We had arguably 3 starters play tonight (Robinson,Knox, & Barrett) and we lost to the suns summer league team that did not suit up their 2 first round picks - pathetic

RJ is pressing too much....trying to prove his worth, instead of just letting the game come to him and been a point forward. I'm not worried about RJ....between his confidence, steve nash, and his dad pro skills.....he will show his worth. His main skill set is what he did at duke....played down hill.....ignite the transition offense. He has all around skills....but until he has that 1 skill that he can lean on, he will continue to look like this. Give him time....Hes well liked, very coachable....I'm sure coach K is in his ear as we speak.

It's an adventure when be goes to his right (even when he made a shot it looked like he was just throwing it up and hoping), his outside shooting has never been that good, he's not enough of an athlete overwhelm NBA players, and defensive tenacity is not there.

He seems to be a good rebounder, and there was one play at the end of regulation where he and Mitch really challenged a driver (Barrett's man(, and he made a nice recovery, but in general his D is pretty poor.

We were also told that he had pretty good court awareness, but I've seen nothing like that from him in the small sampling we have so far.

Still very early. He might be out of shape, he might be tentative because of the pressure he puts on himself, but I feel some concern.

martin wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

martin wrote:For a top 3 pick Barrett looks horrible to me. Horrible defender. Can’t shoot. Bad decision maker. Not explosive. Looks slow.

What makes him talented or special?

see post above.

I get it that these games don't amount to much and guys can over perform and under perform.

I want to know what is going to make RJ special going forward.

Being physically more dominant that high school and college kids will get you far up until college. What happens when you get to the NBA?

Wanted RJ at three. Still think its WAY too early to procalaim his future. Not concerned about missing shots. Not concerned about poor court vision. Seems par for the course for most 19 year olds in first years.

With that said, I AGREE with you. The thing to keep an eye on is RJ's athleticism. Something I have been a bit dissapointed with. Most will point to lack of results in the stat line but what I look for in any draft pick is the level of quickness, ability to separate or a unique talent that makes them potentially better than other draft picks and which enables them to compete with some of the best athletes in the world. Thing I liked about Mithcell, Smith JR. and something that should be required in any top 5 pick. Honestly, Jared Harper, who was undrafted and 5 foot nothing, showed more athleticism than just about everyone on the court yesterday. Not that athleticism is a guarantee but IMO it is something top players ussually have alot of. IMO And for those that say, well thats not RJ's game. they should keep in mind that anyone who has a problem shooting HAS TO be able to seperate and get to the basket.

Still, WAY TOO EARLY to proclaim the kids ceiling or future. Lets hope he starts putting it together and shows why he was considered so high. Everyone wants it immediately(including me) but think we should let the kid turn 21 before he is truly judged.

AS for game..
Knox had a silky shot. Looks good as far as being the player to stretch the floor. Needs a add to mix to be the go to scorer. Saw a nice drive and dish and tried to get to the basket a few times.
Iggy impressed. Seems like he will always be a CRAFTY scorer.
Mitch with the high motor. Awesome! but needs to know when to just close out. He will be faked into foul trouble if not.

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CrushAlot wrote:Frank looks like he is 6’7 or 6’8.

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Dang. Frank looks like he has 3 inches on WholeTeamDot.

He looks thicker than Dot too. We need to get Mitch in touch with Frank's trainer lol Seriously, this is what can happen when you get guys in so young. Maturity sets in. I'm hopeful that includes the mental aspect as well.

Glad Frank is not playing SL. ITs a hot mess out there. For now the very least knicks value him enough not to dump him.
I don't think he is a traditional NBA PG. Thus kid turns into a Point wing and hits his shots we gonna have to apologize to Phil.
Long way to go before then!!!

MS wrote:That’s what’s most alarming...

Everyone is saying it’s summer league. We have two starters and a guy in our rotation playing along with the #3 pick in the draft playing. If anything that should be taking pressure off of RJ because he’s not carrying the load and out there alone.

Dotson would run circles around him. I’m all for giving guys time, shots come so not alarming that he can’t make open jump shots. Did you see him shoot free throws? The athleticism on the drives isn’t there, his feet look slow defensively and his handle is a nightmare right now. Again, you’re playing against a team that likely won’t have more than 3 guys in the league next season.

We were picked to win summer league. Knox looks like. Space cadet with a pure jumper that just floats around and hits threes and does nothing else.

Need more effort and intensity out there.