Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

matt wrote:Melo is playing relatively okay.. It's just JR, Kidd, Tyson, are just playing way below what was expected. All of them at the same time

Others have been worse but Melo's shooting, rebounding, and assists are bad.

good point

So funny watching u guys fall over each other patting yourselves on the back while taking shots at Melo...

You realize you just took shots at two-thirds of our team in your initial post? I used to think you were a homer but I think you're closer to a hater who just gives Melo free passes.

I love how a fan can dictate who they feel you should feel is worthless compared to analyzing each player fairly and assessing them so. But instead we hear the violins from holfresh.....

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

matt wrote:Melo is playing relatively okay.. It's just JR, Kidd, Tyson, are just playing way below what was expected. All of them at the same time

Others have been worse but Melo's shooting, rebounding, and assists are bad.

good point

So funny watching u guys fall over each other patting yourselves on the back while taking shots at Melo...

You realize you just took shots at two-thirds of our team in your initial post? I used to think you were a homer but I think you're closer to a hater who just gives Melo free passes.

U have to admit, my posts are not as predictable as what u and the rest have to offer ...

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:With all those days of practice, there's no reason in the world this team should come out playing like this. This is the kind of game that people fear from WOODY. No feel or creativity on offense. POOR USE OF HIS ROSTER!!! Getting out coached by Doc in most of the quarters and now Vogel is taking him to school. He'd better get his act together or this will get ugly fast.

Please stop.

OK explain to me why this team has looked so bad in so many games this post season? That's on the Coach. I don't wanna hear no excuses for this guy when he's not performing up to par. Where is his so called "accountability" for Tyson not blocking out? Man come on and stop acting like Woody is untouchable. He's got a team to win with and so far they haven't played up to their potential and it's been CLEAR AS DAY that Woody has done a bad job at times in the playoffs.

Woodson isn't untouchable and has a role in his teams failure. But isn't it a bit hypocritical to blame all of the Knicks struggles in game 3 of the east semis when you spent 4 years saying the previous guy was coaching but the players just weren't executing and doing what he taught them when they were losing prolifically? You can see that right?

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:With all those days of practice, there's no reason in the world this team should come out playing like this. This is the kind of game that people fear from WOODY. No feel or creativity on offense. POOR USE OF HIS ROSTER!!! Getting out coached by Doc in most of the quarters and now Vogel is taking him to school. He'd better get his act together or this will get ugly fast.

Please stop.

OK explain to me why this team has looked so bad in so many games this post season? That's on the Coach. I don't wanna hear no excuses for this guy when he's not performing up to par. Where is his so called "accountability" for Tyson not blocking out? Man come on and stop acting like Woody is untouchable. He's got a team to win with and so far they haven't played up to their potential and it's been CLEAR AS DAY that Woody has done a bad job at times in the playoffs.

I don't know but guys aren't hitting their shots??

You're pointing out the symptom but not the cause! The offense was moving WAY too slow and there wasn't enough ball and player movement to get the best shots. We only had a few really well executed plays and this didn't just start today. Where is the "accountability" Woody always talks about?

This man had a TON of time to get this team ready to play the Pacers and this is the best he could do? Now game 4 is a MUST WIN!!! This team can't play like this again in this series. There's literally no excuse for the team to not play their brand of BB.

3G4G wrote:The point is K-Mart is no more fearful of a body guard than security guard at a mall...We had Boston Celtics talking trash to Melo in that series, nothing happened to them. Kevin Garnett supposedly has ripped Melo's elbow out the socket but noting happened to him. And Melo continues shoot shoot shoot shoot...and the Pacers are essentially pin balling him with their defense....

So where's K-Mart Mall Cop in all of this...

3G4G wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

3G4G wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

matt wrote:Melo is playing relatively okay.. It's just JR, Kidd, Tyson, are just playing way below what was expected. All of them at the same time

Others have been worse but Melo's shooting, rebounding, and assists are bad.

Melo hasn't played that well at all but he's trying....but we didn't trade for him to be excused for effort. We got him to play like a SUPERSTAR and he's not....

Tyson Chandler is playing super gross....

Kidd is finished and K-Mart the supposed body guard is nothing but a Mall Cop at best....

rofl, you are a fool man... hahaha..

This would be classic if someone could photoshop Kevin James face with K-mart's and then photoshop his flunky understudy with Melo's face on it.

Matter of fact one of the last jobs Gary Coleman before he passed he was a security guard at the Mall....

K-Mart Mall Cop!!!!!!!

What in the world does that have to do with anything?

The point is K-Mart is no more fearful of a body guard than security guard at a mall...We had Boston Celtics talking trash to Melo in that series, nothing happened to them. Kevin Garnett supposedly has ripped Melo's elbow out the socket but noting happened to him. And Melo continues shoot shoot shoot shoot...and the Pacers are essentially pin balling him with their defense....

So where's K-Mart Mall Cop in all of this...

Martin is a thug like presence. Not sure what you were watching but I thought he played kg hard and fouled him hard. Going up against a guy like Hibbert that is 6 inches taller and has a much bigger base is quite different. Martin plays tough d but Hibbert can shoot right over him.

3G4G wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

3G4G wrote:The point is K-Mart is no more fearful of a body guard than security guard at a mall...We had Boston Celtics talking trash to Melo in that series, nothing happened to them. Kevin Garnett supposedly has ripped Melo's elbow out the socket but noting happened to him. And Melo continues shoot shoot shoot shoot...and the Pacers are essentially pin balling him with their defense....

So where's K-Mart Mall Cop in all of this...

I dont really get where this is coming from. Why are you waiting until this game to call Kmart out for not going after guys last series?

I listed several instances building up a body of work of K-Mart Mall Cop doing this on the job....

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:With all those days of practice, there's no reason in the world this team should come out playing like this. This is the kind of game that people fear from WOODY. No feel or creativity on offense. POOR USE OF HIS ROSTER!!! Getting out coached by Doc in most of the quarters and now Vogel is taking him to school. He'd better get his act together or this will get ugly fast.

Please stop.

OK explain to me why this team has looked so bad in so many games this post season? That's on the Coach. I don't wanna hear no excuses for this guy when he's not performing up to par. Where is his so called "accountability" for Tyson not blocking out? Man come on and stop acting like Woody is untouchable. He's got a team to win with and so far they haven't played up to their potential and it's been CLEAR AS DAY that Woody has done a bad job at times in the playoffs.

I don't know but guys aren't hitting their shots??

You're pointing out the symptom but not the cause! The offense was moving WAY too slow and there wasn't enough ball and player movement to get the best shots. We only had a few really well executed plays and this didn't just start today. Where is the "accountability" Woody always talks about?

This man had a TON of time to get this team ready to play the Pacers and this is the best he could do? Now game 4 is a MUST WIN!!! This team can't play like this again in this series. There's literally no excuse for the team to not play their brand of BB.

I have to admit its really tough seeing u trying to hold Woody accountable when u never held MDA accountable ..

So you guys are trying to make two wrongs into a right here? If i'm wrong for supporting MDA when the team was struggling, then how does that make it ok to just ignore Woody doing a bad job. With MDA it was clear that the team was rebuilding and management never really gave him the kind of players he wanted with the exception of a few months. Then he was a lame duck coach with a petulant Franchise player and a horrible lockout shortened season, injured players trying to play their way into shape etc. What's Woody's excuse for this awful performance?

Woody has pretty much all the pieces he should need to compete at a high level and so far this team has only played well for a Quarter here and there but rarely a full game. This team needs great coaching.
Tell my why he didn't rip into Tyson for not blocking out?
Why has he coddled JR?
Why has he not made better use of his bench?
Why did the team come out in game after game playing poorly?
Why is the team being outhustled?
Why is this team struggling to run it's offense even when they have tons of time to work on it and get it right?

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:With all those days of practice, there's no reason in the world this team should come out playing like this. This is the kind of game that people fear from WOODY. No feel or creativity on offense. POOR USE OF HIS ROSTER!!! Getting out coached by Doc in most of the quarters and now Vogel is taking him to school. He'd better get his act together or this will get ugly fast.

Please stop.

OK explain to me why this team has looked so bad in so many games this post season? That's on the Coach. I don't wanna hear no excuses for this guy when he's not performing up to par. Where is his so called "accountability" for Tyson not blocking out? Man come on and stop acting like Woody is untouchable. He's got a team to win with and so far they haven't played up to their potential and it's been CLEAR AS DAY that Woody has done a bad job at times in the playoffs.

I don't know but guys aren't hitting their shots??

You're pointing out the symptom but not the cause! The offense was moving WAY too slow and there wasn't enough ball and player movement to get the best shots. We only had a few really well executed plays and this didn't just start today. Where is the "accountability" Woody always talks about?

This man had a TON of time to get this team ready to play the Pacers and this is the best he could do? Now game 4 is a MUST WIN!!! This team can't play like this again in this series. There's literally no excuse for the team to not play their brand of BB.

I have to admit its really tough seeing u trying to hold Woody accountable when u never held MDA accountable ..

So you guys are trying to make two wrongs into a right here? If i'm wrong for supporting MDA when the team was struggling, then how does that make it ok to just ignore Woody doing a bad job. With MDA it was clear that the team was rebuilding and management never really gave him the kind of players he wanted with the exception of a few months. Then he was a lame duck coach with a petulant Franchise player and a horrible lockout shortened season, injured players trying to play their way into shape etc. What's Woody's excuse for this awful performance?

Woody has pretty much all the pieces he should need to compete at a high level and so far this team has only played well for a Quarter here and there but rarely a full game. This team needs great coaching.
Tell my why he didn't rip into Tyson for not blocking out?
Why has he coddled JR?
Why has he not made better use of his bench?
Why did the team come out in game after game playing poorly?
Why is the team being outhustled?
Why is this team struggling to run it's offense even when they have tons of time to work on it and get it right?

MDA not having his players isn't an excuse for not coaching the proper way...Lots of teams are not constructed the way the coach wants but he pushes on and does the best with what he has...

CrushAlot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:With all those days of practice, there's no reason in the world this team should come out playing like this. This is the kind of game that people fear from WOODY. No feel or creativity on offense. POOR USE OF HIS ROSTER!!! Getting out coached by Doc in most of the quarters and now Vogel is taking him to school. He'd better get his act together or this will get ugly fast.

Please stop.

OK explain to me why this team has looked so bad in so many games this post season? That's on the Coach. I don't wanna hear no excuses for this guy when he's not performing up to par. Where is his so called "accountability" for Tyson not blocking out? Man come on and stop acting like Woody is untouchable. He's got a team to win with and so far they haven't played up to their potential and it's been CLEAR AS DAY that Woody has done a bad job at times in the playoffs.

I don't know but guys aren't hitting their shots??

You're pointing out the symptom but not the cause! The offense was moving WAY too slow and there wasn't enough ball and player movement to get the best shots. We only had a few really well executed plays and this didn't just start today. Where is the "accountability" Woody always talks about?

This man had a TON of time to get this team ready to play the Pacers and this is the best he could do? Now game 4 is a MUST WIN!!! This team can't play like this again in this series. There's literally no excuse for the team to not play their brand of BB.

I have to admit its really tough seeing u trying to hold Woody accountable when u never held MDA accountable ..

So you guys are trying to make two wrongs into a right here? If i'm wrong for supporting MDA when the team was struggling, then how does that make it ok to just ignore Woody doing a bad job. With MDA it was clear that the team was rebuilding and management never really gave him the kind of players he wanted with the exception of a few months. Then he was a lame duck coach with a petulant Franchise player and a horrible lockout shortened season, injured players trying to play their way into shape etc. What's Woody's excuse for this awful performance?

Woody has pretty much all the pieces he should need to compete at a high level and so far this team has only played well for a Quarter here and there but rarely a full game. This team needs great coaching.
Tell my why he didn't rip into Tyson for not blocking out?
Why has he coddled JR?
Why has he not made better use of his bench?
Why did the team come out in game after game playing poorly?
Why is the team being outhustled?
Why is this team struggling to run it's offense even when they have tons of time to work on it and get it right?

He has not coddled JR and yells at him constantly..
The bench sucks and really isn't playoff worthy
I guess u can blame the coach for shots not falling
You have to be kidding about killing Woody for not bringing in Novak...
To answer your past two questions with one answer...Before Woody, we use to lose to Charlotte, New Orleans and Sacramento...

MDA not having his players isn't an excuse for not coaching the proper way...Lots of teams are not constructed the way the coach wants but he pushes on and does the best with what he has...

Despite the commute and inconvenience several Knicks credited adjustments made at the game day shoot around for the game 2 win against the pacers.

Tell me what the excuse is for this game? Was the team tired after days off? Why did the team play such a slow tempo as they've fallen into in many of the other playoff games in the 1st half? They keep coming out slow and looking like they don't know what to do. The team has players still making the same dumb mistakes. The rotations stunk the lineups he putting out there are disjointed. I'm not seeing great coaching here. Woody is the one on the spot here. He's Mr. Accountability. He's gonna have to get his act together and get this team playing like they should from the opening tip of the next game!!!