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4/12/2013  11:49 AM
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....


What is wrong with you? Gustav congratulated the entire team in previous posts but you see one post giving Melo credit and you lose it. Ironically, you're more preoccupied with Melo than anyone on this board.
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4/12/2013  11:52 AM
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

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4/12/2013  11:52 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/12/2013  12:03 PM
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?


Melo's and J.R. Smith's performance yesterday was painful to watch....like a neighborhood game of...."I Ain't Gonna Get It"....

Remember when young girls and boys would meet up in the hood and play "I Ain't Gonna Get It" the boys would chase the girls and if they caught them they'd take them behind a big tree and dry hump them. That's what it's been like watching them play lately, they are chasing shots trying to dry hump until they turn colors of the rainbow. It's somewhat disgusting. lol @ Melo's 6 offensive rebounds from his own misses


Let's review some of their recent game logs


He and Smith took 61FGA against Chicago only 6ast

He and Smith took 48FGA against OKC only 4ast

He and Smith took 50FGA against the Bucks only 4ast

He and Smith took 42FGA against the Hawks only 4ast

He and Smith took 41FGA against the Heat only 3ast


By my math that's a 12FGA to 1AST ratio....that is DISGUSTING AND DISGRACEFUL


Chasing Scoring Title...... Chasing 6th MOTY


Yes we won many of these games but honestly ask yourself as an astute fan of the game and not this team only do you honestly feel this ISO chuck black hole system that Woody is implementing is gonna fly in the playoffs when defenses turn up their level of play, like we saw last night, and the game slows down and the refs play a more prominent role in game flow?

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4/12/2013  11:55 AM
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?


Melo's and J.R. Smith's performance yesterday was painful to watch....like a neighborhood game of...."I Ain't Gonna Get It"....

Remember when young girls and boys would meet up in the hood and play "I Ain't Gonna Get It" the boys would chase the girls and if they caught them they take to behind a big tree and dry hump them. That's what it's been like watching them play lately they are chasing shots trying to dry hump until they turn colors of the rainbow. It's somewhat disgusting. lol @ Melo's 6 offensive rebounds from his own misses


Let's review some of their recent game logs


He and Smith took 61FGA against Chicago only 6ast

He and Smith took 48FGA against OKC only 4ast

He and Smith took 50FGA against the Bucks only 4ast

He and Smith took 42FGA against the Hawks only 4ast

He and Smith took 41FGA against the Heat only 3ast


By my math that's a 12FGA to 1AST ratio....that is DISGUSTING AND DISGRACEFUL


Chasing Scoring Title...... Chasing 6th MOTY


Yes we won many of these games but honestly ask yourself as an astute fan of the game and not this team only do you honestly feel this ISO chuck black hole system that Woody is implementing is gonna fly in the playoffs when defenses turn up their level of play, like we saw last night, and the game slows down and the refs play a more prominent role in game flow?

Who do you recommend should score the ball on the Knicks then? Amare?

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4/12/2013  11:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/12/2013  11:59 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

yes, because it was trash.. he was chasing points.. 36 points on 34 shots, and 19 boards probably a good portion of them came on shots he tossed up at the basket with no intention of making the shot, but to try to get close to rebound and shoot again... ugly ball... so yes leading with carmelo is again giving this guy too much credit, it idol worship... people get upset at the amount of love teams like denver and houston gets yet all I see here are people idol worshiping carmelo and oh yea... the knicks did ok, as well... really?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team.

nah, I am not trying to label you or make anything seem like something else.. I am just pointing out your comment, and how prevalent that type of attitude has been around here.. you added all of the rest...

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4/12/2013  11:57 AM
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?


Melo's and J.R. Smith's performance yesterday was painful to watch....like a neighborhood game of...."I Ain't Gonna Get It"....

Remember when young girls and boys would meet up in the hood and play "I Ain't Gonna Get It" the boys would chase the girls and if they caught them they take to behind a big tree and dry hump them. That's what it's been like watching them play lately they are chasing shots trying to dry hump until they turn colors of the rainbow. It's somewhat disgusting. lol @ Melo's 6 offensive rebounds from his own misses


Let's review some of their recent game logs


He and Smith took 61FGA against Chicago only 6ast

He and Smith took 48FGA against OKC only 4ast

He and Smith took 50FGA against the Bucks only 4ast

He and Smith took 42FGA against the Hawks only 4ast

He and Smith took 41FGA against the Heat only 3ast


By my math that's a 12FGA to 1AST ratio....that is DISGUSTING AND DISGRACEFUL


Chasing Scoring Title...... Chasing 6th MOTY


Yes we won many of these games but honestly ask yourself as an astute fan of the game and not this team only do you honestly feel this ISO chuck black hole system that Woody is implementing is gonna fly in the playoffs when defenses turn up their level of play, like we saw last night, and the game slows down and the refs play a more prominent role in game flow?

Where in your post do you acknowledge the 19 rebounds? If his pct was off he made up for it by maybe having his best game on the boards. Lol@ Melo staying in the play and not giving up? You think he's missing on purpose? Give it up.

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4/12/2013  11:57 AM
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?


Melo's and J.R. Smith's performance yesterday was painful to watch....like a neighborhood game of...."I Ain't Gonna Get It"....

Remember when young girls and boys would meet up in the hood and play "I Ain't Gonna Get It" the boys would chase the girls and if they caught them they take to behind a big tree and dry hump them. That's what it's been like watching them play lately they are chasing shots trying to dry hump until they turn colors of the rainbow. It's somewhat disgusting. lol @ Melo's 6 offensive rebounds from his own misses


Let's review some of their recent game logs


He and Smith took 61FGA against Chicago only 6ast

He and Smith took 48FGA against OKC only 4ast

He and Smith took 50FGA against the Bucks only 4ast

He and Smith took 42FGA against the Hawks only 4ast

He and Smith took 41FGA against the Heat only 3ast


By my math that's a 12FGA to 1AST ratio....that is DISGUSTING AND DISGRACEFUL


Chasing Scoring Title...... Chasing 6th MOTY


Yes we won many of these games but honestly ask yourself as an astute fan of the game and not this team only do you honestly feel this ISO chuck black hole system that Woody is implementing is gonna fly in the playoffs when defenses turn up their level of play, like we saw last night, and the game slows down and the refs play a more prominent role in game flow?


yeah the shots are a bit much, but let's be real:

1) You want Raymond Felton to be taking some of those shots? He took 17 shots. Want him to take more shots?

2) You want Chris Copeland to take more shots? He took 14 shots and was 4/14.

3) You want Shump to take some of those shots? That would be great too, if he was in the game. Go after Woodson while you're at it, make him cry, do something to tell him to play Shump more. But don't get mad at Shump when he makes mistakes out there either.

4) You want Prigs/Kidd to take those shots? Tell them to shoot more. Prigs was 2/3 before that last shot. Needs to shoot more. Kidd was 0-4. Want him to shoot more?

5) Want Novak to shoot more? Well he needs to get open or just needs to hoist up shots even when he's not wide open.

Get the point? Who else is going to take the shots?

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4/12/2013  12:00 PM
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

yes, because it was trash.. he was chasing points.. 36 points on 34 shots, and 19 boards probably a good portion of them came on shots he tossed up at the basket with no intention of making the shot, but to try to get close to rebound and shoot again... ugly ball... so yes leading with carmelo is again giving this guy too much credit, it idol worship... people get upset at the amount of love teams like denver and houston gets yet all I see here are people idol worshiping carmelo and oh yea... the knicks did ok, as well... really?


answer the question I asked 3G4G.

Who else is going to shoot?

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4/12/2013  12:04 PM
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

yes, because it was trash.. he was chasing points.. 36 points on 34 shots, and 19 boards probably a good portion of them came on shots he tossed up at the basket with no intention of making the shot, but to try to get close to rebound and shoot again... ugly ball... so yes leading with carmelo is again giving this guy too much credit, it idol worship... people get upset at the amount of love teams like denver and houston gets yet all I see here are people idol worshiping carmelo and oh yea... the knicks did ok, as well... really?

I know trash, I'm reading it right now. Best season in 20 years, best performance this season by a Knick in eons and you're reduced to nit picking about the order in which I complimented the team when I've been doing it for the entire ****ing game.

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4/12/2013  12:06 PM
vdfebduderocks wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

yes, because it was trash.. he was chasing points.. 36 points on 34 shots, and 19 boards probably a good portion of them came on shots he tossed up at the basket with no intention of making the shot, but to try to get close to rebound and shoot again... ugly ball... so yes leading with carmelo is again giving this guy too much credit, it idol worship... people get upset at the amount of love teams like denver and houston gets yet all I see here are people idol worshiping carmelo and oh yea... the knicks did ok, as well... really?


answer the question I asked 3G4G.

Who else is going to shoot?

I don't know.....Who shoots the balls for the Spurs when Parker/Ginobli/Jackson are out? Let me look up Duncan's Game logs and see if he took 50FGA and only dropped 3ast in a game and I'll have a final answer for you.

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i don't really care whether melo or smith rack up assists. i'd rather see real ball movement that creates good shots and offensive cohesion. that's going to be the difference in the playoffs in my opinion.

if melo and smith did not move the ball the way they have been moving the ball lately then that is a cause for concern. you can bet defenses are going to be swarming and stifling.

the knicks winning formula is clearly based upon the dallas mavericks title-winning model. the key is how closely melo emulates dirk. when melo plays the right way-- something we have seen in more than several of the last dozen games or so-- his advanced numbers closely resemble dirk's. not quite so good as dirk's in the playoffs that year but certainly close enough.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/12/2013  1:04 PM
vdfebduderocks wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

yes, because it was trash.. he was chasing points.. 36 points on 34 shots, and 19 boards probably a good portion of them came on shots he tossed up at the basket with no intention of making the shot, but to try to get close to rebound and shoot again... ugly ball... so yes leading with carmelo is again giving this guy too much credit, it idol worship... people get upset at the amount of love teams like denver and houston gets yet all I see here are people idol worshiping carmelo and oh yea... the knicks did ok, as well... really?


answer the question I asked 3G4G.

Who else is going to shoot?


is everyone else arms broken? there are plenty of guys capable of shooting.. what kind of question is that.. I am sure if woodson had any kind of offensive brain(which I doubt he does), but if he does, he can find shots for other guys... if not, if there is no one else to shoot then that just again highlights the major issue with the way this team was constructed.. so which is it?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/12/2013  1:14 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

yes, because it was trash.. he was chasing points.. 36 points on 34 shots, and 19 boards probably a good portion of them came on shots he tossed up at the basket with no intention of making the shot, but to try to get close to rebound and shoot again... ugly ball... so yes leading with carmelo is again giving this guy too much credit, it idol worship... people get upset at the amount of love teams like denver and houston gets yet all I see here are people idol worshiping carmelo and oh yea... the knicks did ok, as well... really?

I know trash, I'm reading it right now. Best season in 20 years, best performance this season by a Knick in eons and you're reduced to nit picking about the order in which I complimented the team when I've been doing it for the entire ****ing game.

cut it out.. how much knick basketball have you watched.. you wax on poetically about this sloppy chucker hoisting up shots at a amazing rate shooting 44% and I am supposed be impressed.. after years of watching sprewell, ewing, Allan Houston, Larry Johnson, and of course the Great Bernard king, I am supposed to be excited about this dude? Please!!

it is not nit picking but when you go, hats off to melo, only so much he can do... you are not complimenting the knicks at all... and I don't care if you have been doing it all game... I am looking at that post because what that was in essence was a summation of your feelings.. of course you may have said how well the knicks played, but in the end at least from your post it came across as, the knicks played well, but Hats off to carmelo, he dragged these guys as far as he could.. LOL.. it pretty much negates the " knicks as a team" concept here and you single out an individual.... don't feel bad, I see it a lot.. I am just questioning why the hats off? what has he done to deserve hats off? only so much he can do? really? well I have a laundry list of things he can do more of..

and the cursing dude? come on, is that really getting your point across.. don't be like some players on the knicks.. show some poise... I mean this is only a basketball forum for christ sakes..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/12/2013  1:17 PM
dk7th wrote:i don't really care whether melo or smith rack up assists. i'd rather see real ball movement that creates good shots and offensive cohesion. that's going to be the difference in the playoffs in my opinion.

if melo and smith did not move the ball the way they have been moving the ball lately then that is a cause for concern. you can bet defenses are going to be swarming and stifling.

the knicks winning formula is clearly based upon the dallas mavericks title-winning model. the key is how closely melo emulates dirk. when melo plays the right way-- something we have seen in more than several of the last dozen games or so-- his advanced numbers closely resemble dirk's. not quite so good as dirk's in the playoffs that year but certainly close enough.

the key is DK, he can't help himself.. I have no faith he can do the right thing for any extended period of time.. He or mini melo, JR smith....


But you see this with a lot of players, the guys who can't consistently play the right way, are not the one's hoisting up the hardward, it is the special few that can over and over again, train their minds to play ball the right way.... that is why they are so rare..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/12/2013  1:21 PM
I see the bosom buddies are out in full force now that the Knicks streak is over and Melo, after shooting near 60% over the last 5, finally comes back down to earth. Who didn't see these posts coming
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4/12/2013  1:24 PM
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:i don't really care whether melo or smith rack up assists. i'd rather see real ball movement that creates good shots and offensive cohesion. that's going to be the difference in the playoffs in my opinion.

if melo and smith did not move the ball the way they have been moving the ball lately then that is a cause for concern. you can bet defenses are going to be swarming and stifling.

the knicks winning formula is clearly based upon the dallas mavericks title-winning model. the key is how closely melo emulates dirk. when melo plays the right way-- something we have seen in more than several of the last dozen games or so-- his advanced numbers closely resemble dirk's. not quite so good as dirk's in the playoffs that year but certainly close enough.

the key is DK, he can't help himself.. I have no faith he can do the right thing for any extended period of time.. He or mini melo, JR smith....


But you see this with a lot of players, the guys who can't consistently play the right way, are not the one's hoisting up the hardward, it is the special few that can over and over again, train their minds to play ball the right way.... that is why they are so rare..

i agree

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4/12/2013  1:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/12/2013  1:28 PM
Uptown wrote:I see the bosom buddies are out in full force now that the Knicks streak is over and Melo, after shooting near 60% over the last 5, finally comes back down to earth. Who didn't see these posts coming

Hahaha the cokroaches come out in force in my apartment the second the lights go out too.

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4/12/2013  1:34 PM
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Uptown wrote:I see the bosom buddies are out in full force now that the Knicks streak is over and Melo, after shooting near 60% over the last 5, finally comes back down to earth. Who didn't see these posts coming

Hahaha the cokroaches come out in force in my apartment the second the lights go out too.

you should find a new apartment

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dk7th wrote:i don't really care whether melo or smith rack up assists. i'd rather see real ball movement that creates good shots and offensive cohesion. that's going to be the difference in the playoffs in my opinion.

if melo and smith did not move the ball the way they have been moving the ball lately then that is a cause for concern. you can bet defenses are going to be swarming and stifling.

the knicks winning formula is clearly based upon the dallas mavericks title-winning model. the key is how closely melo emulates dirk. when melo plays the right way-- something we have seen in more than several of the last dozen games or so-- his advanced numbers closely resemble dirk's. not quite so good as dirk's in the playoffs that year but certainly close enough.

the key is DK, he can't help himself.. I have no faith he can do the right thing for any extended period of time.. He or mini melo, JR smith....


But you see this with a lot of players, the guys who can't consistently play the right way, are not the one's hoisting up the hardward, it is the special few that can over and over again, train their minds to play ball the right way.... that is why they are so rare..


we shall see if he can help himself THIS TIME. if he can't do it this year then he's a hopeless case.

my thing is that i HAVE seen him play the right way so he has it in him, the precedent has been set-- i will give him that. but if his heart, mind, and will are not strong enough in the crucible of the playoffs he will forever be branded as a loser.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/12/2013  1:53 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

Melo puts up 36 and 19 and you're upset that I led with Melo? The same guy who has averaged 39pts over the last 6 games?

You wait until the game is over to come into this thread and pull something I said three pages back and try to make it sound like I'm not supportive enough of the team. you definitely need to grow the **** up.

yes, because it was trash.. he was chasing points.. 36 points on 34 shots, and 19 boards probably a good portion of them came on shots he tossed up at the basket with no intention of making the shot, but to try to get close to rebound and shoot again... ugly ball... so yes leading with carmelo is again giving this guy too much credit, it idol worship... people get upset at the amount of love teams like denver and houston gets yet all I see here are people idol worshiping carmelo and oh yea... the knicks did ok, as well... really?

I know trash, I'm reading it right now. Best season in 20 years, best performance this season by a Knick in eons and you're reduced to nit picking about the order in which I complimented the team when I've been doing it for the entire ****ing game.

cut it out.. how much knick basketball have you watched.. you wax on poetically about this sloppy chucker hoisting up shots at a amazing rate shooting 44% and I am supposed be impressed.. after years of watching sprewell, ewing, Allan Houston, Larry Johnson, and of course the Great Bernard king, I am supposed to be excited about this dude? Please!!

it is not nit picking but when you go, hats off to melo, only so much he can do... you are not complimenting the knicks at all... and I don't care if you have been doing it all game... I am looking at that post because what that was in essence was a summation of your feelings.. of course you may have said how well the knicks played, but in the end at least from your post it came across as, the knicks played well, but Hats off to carmelo, he dragged these guys as far as he could.. LOL.. it pretty much negates the " knicks as a team" concept here and you single out an individual.... don't feel bad, I see it a lot.. I am just questioning why the hats off? what has he done to deserve hats off? only so much he can do? really? well I have a laundry list of things he can do more of..

and the cursing dude? come on, is that really getting your point across.. don't be like some players on the knicks.. show some poise... I mean this is only a basketball forum for christ sakes..


The reason I am upset is because you haven't passed up an opportunity all season to **** on this team and Carmelo Anthony in particular. The good to great things he does go uncredited but every GD thing you believe he does wrong, despite the season he's having, you can't stop talking about. This in spite of the fact that he's doing things we haven't seen since Bernard King.

You have shown more enthusiasm for the Nuggets win streak than you have for the Knicks win streak. I'm watching Knick games,I know what you're watching. When a player grabs 19 boards on any end of the court when his primary job is scoring, then yes I'm going to lead with him when no one else had a better game. Melo left everything on the floor, you don't get 19 rebounds from doggin' it.

Don't quote me out of context and expect me not to say something. You of all posters suggesting that I or anyone else on this board isn't giving this team enough credit for anything is laughable.

I've criticized Melo for trying to play hero ball, for giving up on players, for laughing on the bench, among other things. Using me to capture the "essence" of posters who give Melo to much credit is BS. Someone who has shown absolutely zero balance in everything that is Carmelo Anthony has no business holding me up as an example of someone with blinders on.

Haven't been on this board as long as some of you but I have been here long enough for people to know that I'm usually an easy going guy. I will gladly restrain myself if you will use someone else to peddle your sudden appreciation for this squad.

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