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skeng
Posts: 22090 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 10/27/2009 Member: #2959 Denmark |
12/20/2012 6:00 PM
I didn't read all of the 18 pages in this thread, but to Felton's defense, he does get at least 3-4 shots a game which are just prayers at the rim for TC to clean up..
Legalize di NBA
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
12/20/2012 6:05 PM
VCoug wrote:Tyson was so good last year, when he wasn't playing with Felton, he was invited to play on the Olympic team and won DPOY both of which are greater honors then him supposedly making the All-Star team this year. In my opinion, it's pretty insulting to Chandler to attribute his success this year to Felton. VCoug - you could be missing an essential point. You play to get the ball in the basket. Tyson was close to the basket last season and we had no one to get him the ball inside on the regular. Raymond Felton does not make Tyson Chandler better. He makes Chandler's post dunk shouts louder. Feel good. Why? We are that good as a team. 19-6 is kinda sexy, yes? once a knick always a knick
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
12/20/2012 6:07 PM
Regardless of what people may or may not say in regards to Felton, but he's been our starting PG who's running an offensive in which is on pace to set an all-time NBA record for fewest turnovers committed per game. Kidd has helped alot, but Felton's been our main ball handler. Also averages the most minutes per game outside of only Carmelo Anthony.
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
12/20/2012 6:08 PM
misterearl wrote:VCoug wrote:Tyson was so good last year, when he wasn't playing with Felton, he was invited to play on the Olympic team and won DPOY both of which are greater honors then him supposedly making the All-Star team this year. In my opinion, it's pretty insulting to Chandler to attribute his success this year to Felton. Actually Tyson points per possession is higher this year. |
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
12/20/2012 6:16 PM
Felton's Got 99 Problems But Turnovers Ain't One
NYKMentality wrote:Regardless of what people may or may not say in regards to Felton, but he's been our starting PG who's running an offensive in which is on pace to set an all-time NBA record for fewest turnovers committed per game. Kidd has helped alot, but Felton's been our main ball handler. Also averages the most minutes per game outside of only Carmelo Anthony. What's that you say? ... our starting PG is running an offensive in which is on pace to set an all-time NBA record for fewest turnovers committed per game? At the rate they are running wind sprints, the Knicks coaches will be the best conditioned in the league. We went from giving the ball away last season at an alarming rate, to being the best in ball security. Worst to first. Sounds so beautiful, don't you agree? once a knick always a knick
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
12/20/2012 6:21 PM
misterearl wrote:VCoug wrote:Tyson was so good last year, when he wasn't playing with Felton, he was invited to play on the Olympic team and won DPOY both of which are greater honors then him supposedly making the All-Star team this year. In my opinion, it's pretty insulting to Chandler to attribute his success this year to Felton. You're missing an essential point. You, nor anyone else, has been able to show that he's playing appreciably better this year than last or that the slight improvement this year offensively is due to Felton. If Felton is so much better than the combination of TD/Lin/Bibby/crippled-BD wouldn't he have significantly better numbers this year, similar to the improvement when he left Felton and the Bobcats for Dallas? Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
12/20/2012 6:27 PM LAST EDITED: 12/20/2012 6:28 PM
VCoug wrote:misterearl wrote:VCoug wrote:Tyson was so good last year, when he wasn't playing with Felton, he was invited to play on the Olympic team and won DPOY both of which are greater honors then him supposedly making the All-Star team this year. In my opinion, it's pretty insulting to Chandler to attribute his success this year to Felton. You are missing the most essential point...Yes, the number that matters most, is significantly better, but you are not agreeing....19-6 is the number the world is watching... |
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NUPE
Posts: 21221 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/29/2012 Member: #4205 |
12/20/2012 6:59 PM
It's funny to me that it's primarily the people that sing Lin's praises that also claim Felton has played poorly.
LoL! I think Felton is in the mist of a shooting slump that has lasted maybe the last week or so. Other than that, Felton has been solid enough to be referred to as a possible all star by Fraizer. |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
12/20/2012 7:02 PM
Whats funny is Lin's play is improving and Felton's is back to his career numbers and sitting on the bench in 4th quarters at times
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FoeDiddy
Posts: 22619 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2008 Member: #2350 |
12/20/2012 7:02 PM
NUPE wrote:It's funny to me that it's primarily the people that sing Lin's praises that also claim Felton has played poorly. people were just waiting for him to have a slump lol. JR Smith had a similar slump for like 5 games and is out of it now. It's a long season. |
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IronWillGiroud
Posts: 25207 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/17/2012 Member: #4359 |
12/20/2012 7:04 PM
Look Felton is what you thought he was. He'll shoot a lot and when he's tickling twines, he'll look like an All-Star, when the twines aren't being tickled, then he'll look like a terrible point guard, his shortcomings as a distributor will be magnified.
At the end of the day, 19-6 don't lie, ball don't lie. I don't really care if a guy that works for me smells bad or doesn't have any teeth, if my organization is successful with this guy in the fold then there is no problem. Felton might not have any teeth, but the organization is working. The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
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FoeDiddy
Posts: 22619 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2008 Member: #2350 |
12/20/2012 7:11 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Look Felton is what you thought he was. He'll shoot a lot and when he's tickling twines, he'll look like an All-Star, when the twines aren't being tickled, then he'll look like a terrible point guard, his shortcomings as a distributor will be magnified. He has High Priced Dentures that he forgets to put on from time to time. |
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
12/20/2012 7:15 PM
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:misterearl wrote:We Are Lob Cityholfresh wrote:Really..So u think Chandler can throw alley hoops to himself or better yet, create his own offense??...Chandler and Felton is the most prolific alley hoop tandem in the NBA... i watch the games. missed the laker game and the cavs game but i have seen all the rest. instead of your insult how about answering the question i asked without misdirection: when have you seen felton-- in traffic-- make a pass to brewer or anybody else in the corner? does felton do the alley oop to chandler more often than a bounce pass in traffic or not? but to give you a chance to enlighten me since i so sorely need enlightening: why not make note of the time in the game where felton makes a bounce pass to chandler in traffic. it's a simple and easy task and i'll be happy to acknowledge my blindness and i mean that. "3:28 of the 3rd quarter" and the like. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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nykshaknbake
Posts: 22247 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/15/2003 Member: #492 |
12/20/2012 7:17 PM
Not particularly with stat himself but there aren't going to be enough shots unless Felton tones it down.
Panos wrote:nykshaknbake wrote:I like Felton. He plays hard on both ends and isn't a bad distributor. He however continues to have horrible shooting with that 1 handed floater. He also calls his number way too much. When stat comes back they are going to conflict. |
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
12/20/2012 7:25 PM
holfresh wrote:VCoug wrote:misterearl wrote:VCoug wrote:Tyson was so good last year, when he wasn't playing with Felton, he was invited to play on the Olympic team and won DPOY both of which are greater honors then him supposedly making the All-Star team this year. In my opinion, it's pretty insulting to Chandler to attribute his success this year to Felton. Are we winning because of Felton or in spite of him? In hierarchy of importance I'd place Felton 5th behind Melo, Tyson, Kidd, and JR. Once Amare and Shump are back hopefully he'll be around 7th. I believe based on how he plays, his usage%, and his FGA/game Felton sees himself as 1st or 2nd. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
12/20/2012 7:32 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:NUPE wrote:It's funny to me that it's primarily the people that sing Lin's praises that also claim Felton has played poorly. Waiting? I've been saying this since the Summer. And it's not like it's been a couple of games he's slumped. In 15 November games he took 14.2 shots/games and only hit 41.8% of them. Through the first 10 games of December he's taking 19.2 shots/game while hitting only 37.5% of them. His 3-point shooting has also fallen from 40.3% in November to 34.8% in December. This is not a recipe for longterm success. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
12/20/2012 7:37 PM
VCoug wrote:holfresh wrote:VCoug wrote:misterearl wrote:VCoug wrote:Tyson was so good last year, when he wasn't playing with Felton, he was invited to play on the Olympic team and won DPOY both of which are greater honors then him supposedly making the All-Star team this year. In my opinion, it's pretty insulting to Chandler to attribute his success this year to Felton. OK...U won't listen to me...Listen to JKIdd, future hall of famer who knows what it takes to win and I quote:" “Felton is the engine," Kidd said. “I tell him to go out there and set the tempo." |
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NUPE
Posts: 21221 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/29/2012 Member: #4205 |
12/20/2012 7:39 PM LAST EDITED: 12/20/2012 7:39 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Whats funny is Lin's play is improving and Felton's is back to his career numbers and sitting on the bench in 4th quarters at times Felton has been on a slump for a week or two at most. Lin has finally began to play well within the last week after literally being terrible for most of the season, imo. Feel free to sugar coat, if you like, however reality is not lost on me. |
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IronWillGiroud
Posts: 25207 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/17/2012 Member: #4359 |
12/20/2012 7:40 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:Look Felton is what you thought he was. He'll shoot a lot and when he's tickling twines, he'll look like an All-Star, when the twines aren't being tickled, then he'll look like a terrible point guard, his shortcomings as a distributor will be magnified. Hahahaha, exactly The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
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