tkf wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:It is so funny to see people whine about Melo's fg% which is 44% right now.

Meanwhile:

The great Gallo is shooting 34% this year.
The great Lin is shooting below 35% this year.
The great Wilson Chandler is shooting 31% this year.

Melo is literally shooting just about 10% better than all the ex-Knick's and the "Gift".

please im begging you stop with the knicks vs former knicks crap. Lets focus on the good season we are having

Why should I?!?! We all know certain posters hate for Melo revolves around their lust for ex-knicks. Melo is shooting 44% and people are acting like he is shooting 35%. Eventually Melo will make more of his shots around the rim and his fg% will improve. And then people will find something else to complain about.

nah, this is what you do.. you bring up those guys every time you can..... melo is shooting 44% and that is not good enough.. I mean is that what you want from your so called franchise player? why such low standards, why not aim for 49% which deng is shooting, or 53% which lebron is shooting, he is getting paid more than both guys, and he is supposed to be the face of this franchise... why keep bringing up players whom you feel are inferior to him as the standard to which defend melo.. it is ridiculous on every level especially with the way you feel about former knicks...

We didn't give up Deng or Lebron for Melo we gave up 34% Gallo and 31% Chandler. Melo was the reason why 35% Linsanity ended. Now that the offseason is over and hypotheticals turn into reality and you can't brag about them its not a fair ball game anymore I see.

Melo is shooting 44%, but he is attacking the basket he isn't just shooting poor jumpshots. He gets a couple more calls when he is getting whacked and his fg% would sky rocket. With that said didn't really like the way he played offensively that much. We need to get back to the ball movement like the first few games. His defense on West was great though.

so again, as long as carmelo is shooting a better % than those guys, knick fans should be happy? if that works for you.. have at it.. but it makes absolutely no sense...... If you feel those guys are vastly inferior than it should not be a surprise, but when someone says that 44% is not good enough, pointing out what gallo, lin, etc shoots, is just a piss poor way to defend that point....

but you do see how what you said really makes no sense.... 35% linsanity.. I didn't know lin ws shooting that bad last year. unless you have some stats to back that up, what you are just doing is going out of a way to try to make a point that just isn't there..

Carmelo has surpassed Wade as a player, and will continue to be put up better numbers for the next 5 years. Yes, Wade has 2 rings and a Finals MVP and wil probably rank higher on the all time list of players. But he's putting up fringe all star numbers now while Anthony is in his prime. No way I take Wade over Melo for today or the future. I see Wade in street clothes once a week.

And as the Celtics have faded, Rondo just doesn't seem as valuabe now.

When your team wins the way we have, your best player's weaknesses just aren't as glaring as you make them out to be.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

tkf wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:It is so funny to see people whine about Melo's fg% which is 44% right now.

Meanwhile:

The great Gallo is shooting 34% this year.
The great Lin is shooting below 35% this year.
The great Wilson Chandler is shooting 31% this year.

Melo is literally shooting just about 10% better than all the ex-Knick's and the "Gift".

please im begging you stop with the knicks vs former knicks crap. Lets focus on the good season we are having

Why should I?!?! We all know certain posters hate for Melo revolves around their lust for ex-knicks. Melo is shooting 44% and people are acting like he is shooting 35%. Eventually Melo will make more of his shots around the rim and his fg% will improve. And then people will find something else to complain about.

nah, this is what you do.. you bring up those guys every time you can..... melo is shooting 44% and that is not good enough.. I mean is that what you want from your so called franchise player? why such low standards, why not aim for 49% which deng is shooting, or 53% which lebron is shooting, he is getting paid more than both guys, and he is supposed to be the face of this franchise... why keep bringing up players whom you feel are inferior to him as the standard to which defend melo.. it is ridiculous on every level especially with the way you feel about former knicks...

We didn't give up Deng or Lebron for Melo we gave up 34% Gallo and 31% Chandler. Melo was the reason why 35% Linsanity ended. Now that the offseason is over and hypotheticals turn into reality and you can't brag about them its not a fair ball game anymore I see.

Melo is shooting 44%, but he is attacking the basket he isn't just shooting poor jumpshots. He gets a couple more calls when he is getting whacked and his fg% would sky rocket. With that said didn't really like the way he played offensively that much. We need to get back to the ball movement like the first few games. His defense on West was great though.

so again, as long as carmelo is shooting a better % than those guys, knick fans should be happy? if that works for you.. have at it.. but it makes absolutely no sense...... If you feel those guys are vastly inferior than it should not be a surprise, but when someone says that 44% is not good enough, pointing out what gallo, lin, etc shoots, is just a piss poor way to defend that point....

but you do see how what you said really makes no sense.... 35% linsanity.. I didn't know lin ws shooting that bad last year. unless you have some stats to back that up, what you are just doing is going out of a way to try to make a point that just isn't there..

Carmelo has surpassed Wade as a player, and will continue to be put up better numbers for the next 5 years. Yes, Wade has 2 rings and a Finals MVP and wil probably rank higher on the all time list of players. But he's putting up fringe all star numbers now while Anthony is in his prime. No way I take Wade over Melo for today or the future. I see Wade in street clothes once a week.

And as the Celtics have faded, Rondo just doesn't seem as valuabe now.

When your team wins the way we have, your best player's weaknesses just aren't as glaring as you make them out to be.

this is so over the top.. after less than 10 games..

carmelo has surpassed wade

the celtics have faded( this has to be the funniest thing I have heard yet))

melo's weaknesses are now hidden..

carmelo is MVP..

hey ignorance is bliss when you start off 7-1

I would love to read what they are saying on the memphis, bucks, and nets boards.....

I guess on the clippers board d'andre jordan has now surpassed Dwight.

And on the bucks boards, jennings has now surpassed nash...

tkf wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

tkf wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:It is so funny to see people whine about Melo's fg% which is 44% right now.

Meanwhile:

The great Gallo is shooting 34% this year.
The great Lin is shooting below 35% this year.
The great Wilson Chandler is shooting 31% this year.

Melo is literally shooting just about 10% better than all the ex-Knick's and the "Gift".

please im begging you stop with the knicks vs former knicks crap. Lets focus on the good season we are having

Why should I?!?! We all know certain posters hate for Melo revolves around their lust for ex-knicks. Melo is shooting 44% and people are acting like he is shooting 35%. Eventually Melo will make more of his shots around the rim and his fg% will improve. And then people will find something else to complain about.

nah, this is what you do.. you bring up those guys every time you can..... melo is shooting 44% and that is not good enough.. I mean is that what you want from your so called franchise player? why such low standards, why not aim for 49% which deng is shooting, or 53% which lebron is shooting, he is getting paid more than both guys, and he is supposed to be the face of this franchise... why keep bringing up players whom you feel are inferior to him as the standard to which defend melo.. it is ridiculous on every level especially with the way you feel about former knicks...

We didn't give up Deng or Lebron for Melo we gave up 34% Gallo and 31% Chandler. Melo was the reason why 35% Linsanity ended. Now that the offseason is over and hypotheticals turn into reality and you can't brag about them its not a fair ball game anymore I see.

Melo is shooting 44%, but he is attacking the basket he isn't just shooting poor jumpshots. He gets a couple more calls when he is getting whacked and his fg% would sky rocket. With that said didn't really like the way he played offensively that much. We need to get back to the ball movement like the first few games. His defense on West was great though.

so again, as long as carmelo is shooting a better % than those guys, knick fans should be happy? if that works for you.. have at it.. but it makes absolutely no sense...... If you feel those guys are vastly inferior than it should not be a surprise, but when someone says that 44% is not good enough, pointing out what gallo, lin, etc shoots, is just a piss poor way to defend that point....

but you do see how what you said really makes no sense.... 35% linsanity.. I didn't know lin ws shooting that bad last year. unless you have some stats to back that up, what you are just doing is going out of a way to try to make a point that just isn't there..

Carmelo has surpassed Wade as a player, and will continue to be put up better numbers for the next 5 years. Yes, Wade has 2 rings and a Finals MVP and wil probably rank higher on the all time list of players. But he's putting up fringe all star numbers now while Anthony is in his prime. No way I take Wade over Melo for today or the future. I see Wade in street clothes once a week.

And as the Celtics have faded, Rondo just doesn't seem as valuabe now.

When your team wins the way we have, your best player's weaknesses just aren't as glaring as you make them out to be.

this is so over the top.. after less than 10 games..

carmelo has surpassed wade

the celtics have faded( this has to be the funniest thing I have heard yet))

melo's weaknesses are now hidden..

carmelo is MVP..

hey ignorance is bliss when you start off 7-1

I would love to read what they are saying on the memphis, bucks, and nets boards.....

I guess on the clippers board d'andre jordan has now surpassed Dwight.

And on the bucks boards, jennings has now surpassed nash...

How is Wade a better player this season? Because he averages 10 less points and shoots 3 percentage points higher in FG% ?

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:Well thank goodness the Pacers were so bad today especially Hibbert but Melo taking 22FGA to score 26pts with 0ast will not prove beneficial in the long run if he duplicates this kind of output. He needs to learn to become a more efficient player.

Stats really don't tell the full story.

It was a few plays where he passed out but that particular player whipped the ball to a better shot.

Plus, a few of his attempt he was fouled on but no call but he was able to stay with the ball to eventually make a score with it.

He's averaging 1.7ast on the season with 0 today....if this continues I can't see how it will prove to be a positive for us

Its all about Hockey assists dude!

We won - no need to bitch when we win.

As the postgame announcers stated "without Melo today, the knicks were in big trouble"

mrKnickShot wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

tkf wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:It is so funny to see people whine about Melo's fg% which is 44% right now.

Meanwhile:

The great Gallo is shooting 34% this year.
The great Lin is shooting below 35% this year.
The great Wilson Chandler is shooting 31% this year.

Melo is literally shooting just about 10% better than all the ex-Knick's and the "Gift".

please im begging you stop with the knicks vs former knicks crap. Lets focus on the good season we are having

Why should I?!?! We all know certain posters hate for Melo revolves around their lust for ex-knicks. Melo is shooting 44% and people are acting like he is shooting 35%. Eventually Melo will make more of his shots around the rim and his fg% will improve. And then people will find something else to complain about.

nah, this is what you do.. you bring up those guys every time you can..... melo is shooting 44% and that is not good enough.. I mean is that what you want from your so called franchise player? why such low standards, why not aim for 49% which deng is shooting, or 53% which lebron is shooting, he is getting paid more than both guys, and he is supposed to be the face of this franchise... why keep bringing up players whom you feel are inferior to him as the standard to which defend melo.. it is ridiculous on every level especially with the way you feel about former knicks...

We didn't give up Deng or Lebron for Melo we gave up 34% Gallo and 31% Chandler. Melo was the reason why 35% Linsanity ended. Now that the offseason is over and hypotheticals turn into reality and you can't brag about them its not a fair ball game anymore I see.

Melo is shooting 44%, but he is attacking the basket he isn't just shooting poor jumpshots. He gets a couple more calls when he is getting whacked and his fg% would sky rocket. With that said didn't really like the way he played offensively that much. We need to get back to the ball movement like the first few games. His defense on West was great though.

so again, as long as carmelo is shooting a better % than those guys, knick fans should be happy? if that works for you.. have at it.. but it makes absolutely no sense...... If you feel those guys are vastly inferior than it should not be a surprise, but when someone says that 44% is not good enough, pointing out what gallo, lin, etc shoots, is just a piss poor way to defend that point....

but you do see how what you said really makes no sense.... 35% linsanity.. I didn't know lin ws shooting that bad last year. unless you have some stats to back that up, what you are just doing is going out of a way to try to make a point that just isn't there..

Carmelo has surpassed Wade as a player, and will continue to be put up better numbers for the next 5 years. Yes, Wade has 2 rings and a Finals MVP and wil probably rank higher on the all time list of players. But he's putting up fringe all star numbers now while Anthony is in his prime. No way I take Wade over Melo for today or the future. I see Wade in street clothes once a week.

And as the Celtics have faded, Rondo just doesn't seem as valuabe now.

When your team wins the way we have, your best player's weaknesses just aren't as glaring as you make them out to be.

Really? Surpassed Wade?

C'mon dude.

I thought he did as well after last season...If you swap out Melo and Wade last year, I don't think Wade takes the Knicks to the playoffs going 18-6..

Wade is still the better player.

With Wade we wouldn't have needed an 18-6 stretch to make the playoffs.

mrKnickShot wrote:Hotfresh,

Wade would have done squat with last years Knicks team. And, you swap out Melo for Lebron and he does not do much either.

That being said ... look at Wades efficiency numbers as he skies over PP, Melo and even Kobe.

Its no comparison IMHO

What Melo did last year cannot be overlooked...He needed to be the best player in basketball for a month and he was...I remember that vividly because Magic Johnson was saying it...For a month...Am I the only on that saw this???..Forget about Hollingers's crap...Do you think Wade could have carried the Knicks the way Melo did??

mrKnickShot wrote:

knickscity wrote:I like Melo, but you guys guys have got to be kidding.

Wade is still the better player.

With Wade we wouldn't have needed an 18-6 stretch to make the playoffs.

How do you know?

Wade did not fare to well without Shaq and/or Lebron.

Though I agree that Wade is in a diff league.

Point is ... a player needs help - real help.

Wade addresses a few of the needs the team had for most of the season...a capable ball handler that run an offense.

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Hotfresh,

Wade would have done squat with last years Knicks team. And, you swap out Melo for Lebron and he does not do much either.

That being said ... look at Wades efficiency numbers as he skies over PP, Melo and even Kobe.

Its no comparison IMHO

What Melo did last year cannot be overlooked...He needed to be the best player in basketball for a month and he was...Am I the only on that saw this???..Forget about Hollingers's crap...Do you think Wade could have carried the Knicks the way Melo did??

I think that Wade might not have needed to.

Melo was great in that stretch but you need to look at the season as a hole. Melo was pretty awful for most of it.

Come on, the dude was hurt, MDA was coaching...What are u talking about.???..Have u seen the Heat in the years without LeBron???..Average team like the Knicks were last year...But again, do you think Wade is capable of carrying a team in that manner for one month???

You'd have consistency throughout, and efficiency, and a naturally willing defender.

I'm glad Melo is here, but to say he's a better player than Wade is just so wrong.

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Hotfresh,

Wade would have done squat with last years Knicks team. And, you swap out Melo for Lebron and he does not do much either.

That being said ... look at Wades efficiency numbers as he skies over PP, Melo and even Kobe.

Its no comparison IMHO

What Melo did last year cannot be overlooked...He needed to be the best player in basketball for a month and he was...Am I the only on that saw this???..Forget about Hollingers's crap...Do you think Wade could have carried the Knicks the way Melo did??

I think that Wade might not have needed to.

Melo was great in that stretch but you need to look at the season as a hole. Melo was pretty awful for most of it.

Come on, the dude was hurt, MDA was coaching...What are u talking about.???..Have u seen the Heat in the years without LeBron???..Average team like the Knicks were last year...But again, do you think Wade is capable of carrying a team in that manner for one month???

Yes. I do.

And, you can't give Melo a complete pass for last season and blame it on injury - its a cop out (to a certain extent) and disingenuous

ok...I just don't think Wade is that type of player...but what are u talking about the entire season..Do you think Wade's teams were doing that much better than the Knicks of last year???..Before Bron Wade's team have the same winning percentage if not less then last years Knicks...