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DurzoBlint
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11/2/2012  10:52 PM
Can't wait for sundays game. Hoping we continue the great ball movement
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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11/2/2012  10:53 PM
nixluva wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

Also Kidd is a ball mover and that made it hard for the Heat to get to our shooters. The importance of having Kidd, Felton and Prigs makes us ALWAYS have good floor leadership at all times. The Heat actually don't have that.

the heat have have the top 2 players in the game but they have no depth and dont have height. The Knick now have both and i think if we are heathy we can beat the heat in the playoffs
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11/2/2012  10:54 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
nixluva wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

Also Kidd is a ball mover and that made it hard for the Heat to get to our shooters. The importance of having Kidd, Felton and Prigs makes us ALWAYS have good floor leadership at all times. The Heat actually don't have that.

the heat have have the top 2 players in the game but they have no depth and dont have height. The Knick now have both and i think if we are heathy we can beat the heat in the playoffs
i wouldnt go that farbthey have bosh allen and battier
nixluva
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11/2/2012  10:54 PM
3G4G wrote:We beat Boston first game last year. I won't fall for the trickery so easily with this team. I'll wait to see if we can win a game without shooting so many 3s and if the shots aren't quite falling from long range. Carmelo and Smith almost let the momentum get completely away but Kidd and Novak wouldn't allow it to happen and then Felton came along to duplicate.

You have to pay closer attention to how we got those 3's. There are GOOD 3's and bad 3's. We were getting open in rhythm 3's and those are gonna go down with Pro players. The ball movement is gonna be there cuz we have very good PG's that are REAL PG's that know how to make plays and think the game. Most of us have forgotten what it looks like when you have good PG play.

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11/2/2012  10:54 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

This is how the team must play. They are built around melo so you need guys who can shoot, defend, and play smart. Guys like kidd brewer and novak are playing the ideal roles.

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11/2/2012  10:56 PM
Knixkik wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

This is how the team must play. They are built around melo so you need guys who can shoot, defend, and play smart. Guys like kidd brewer and novak are playing the ideal roles.

until amare returns
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11/2/2012  10:56 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
nixluva wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

Also Kidd is a ball mover and that made it hard for the Heat to get to our shooters. The importance of having Kidd, Felton and Prigs makes us ALWAYS have good floor leadership at all times. The Heat actually don't have that.

the heat have have the top 2 players in the game but they have no depth and dont have height. The Knick now have both and i think if we are heathy we can beat the heat in the playoffs
i wouldnt go that farbthey have bosh allen and battier
bosh for sure but allen can barely move and battier wont be as good since flops are not allowed
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11/2/2012  10:58 PM
Knixkik wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

This is how the team must play. They are built around melo so you need guys who can shoot, defend, and play smart. Guys like kidd brewer and novak are playing the ideal roles.

Woody is showing how smart he is to be using the MDA offense with Melo at the center of it and shooters all around. You spread the floor and have good ball and player movement it's near impossible to guard the entire floor. We lost that in the playoffs with no PG's!!! Now we have real PG's and that allows us to get back to playing this way with Melo.

Eventually Woody will work in some post play, don't worry. Sheed will get some and when STAT comes back.

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11/2/2012  10:59 PM
ha, all goodson talks about is D ... i love it
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11/2/2012  11:01 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
nixluva wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

Also Kidd is a ball mover and that made it hard for the Heat to get to our shooters. The importance of having Kidd, Felton and Prigs makes us ALWAYS have good floor leadership at all times. The Heat actually don't have that.

the heat have have the top 2 players in the game but they have no depth and dont have height. The Knick now have both and i think if we are heathy we can beat the heat in the playoffs
i wouldnt go that farbthey have bosh allen and battier
bosh for sure but allen can barely move and battier wont be as good since flops are not allowed

Really allen dropped 19 the first game. Lead the heat in scoring. Not sure if u are right that he cant move
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11/2/2012  11:04 PM
nixluva wrote:
3G4G wrote:We beat Boston first game last year. I won't fall for the trickery so easily with this team. I'll wait to see if we can win a game without shooting so many 3s and if the shots aren't quite falling from long range. Carmelo and Smith almost let the momentum get completely away but Kidd and Novak wouldn't allow it to happen and then Felton came along to duplicate.

You have to pay closer attention to how we got those 3's. There are GOOD 3's and bad 3's. We were getting open in rhythm 3's and those are gonna go down with Pro players. The ball movement is gonna be there cuz we have very good PG's that are REAL PG's that know how to make plays and think the game. Most of us have forgotten what it looks like when you have good PG play.

I say about 70% of our 3s were good 3s. I think some of us forget what shots are good shots when many of them happen to fall.

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11/2/2012  11:05 PM
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Anji wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Ha Ha look at gamepicker.

LOL, my first pick ever..............WE PROTECTS HOME COURT DOOOOEEE!!!!!!!


Put the city on our backs!!!!!!!!

Well done to you and matt, top TWO dogs lol.

I stopped doing gamepicker. Found it to be taking away some enjoyment of watching the game.

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11/2/2012  11:05 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
nixluva wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Clean wrote:Kidd did tonight what I wanted Fields to do last year. He hit open shots when they doubled Melo. Kidd did more than just this, but this one thing is very important for the Knicks to win.

very good point. He proved to be the little glue guy filling in the cracks

Also Kidd is a ball mover and that made it hard for the Heat to get to our shooters. The importance of having Kidd, Felton and Prigs makes us ALWAYS have good floor leadership at all times. The Heat actually don't have that.

the heat have have the top 2 players in the game but they have no depth and dont have height. The Knick now have both and i think if we are heathy we can beat the heat in the playoffs
i wouldnt go that farbthey have bosh allen and battier
bosh for sure but allen can barely move and battier wont be as good since flops are not allowed

Really allen dropped 19 the first game. Lead the heat in scoring. Not sure if u are right that he cant move
good for him. all in know is we kicked the heats ass tonight so thats all that i care about right now
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11/2/2012  11:08 PM
3G4G wrote:
nixluva wrote:
3G4G wrote:We beat Boston first game last year. I won't fall for the trickery so easily with this team. I'll wait to see if we can win a game without shooting so many 3s and if the shots aren't quite falling from long range. Carmelo and Smith almost let the momentum get completely away but Kidd and Novak wouldn't allow it to happen and then Felton came along to duplicate.

You have to pay closer attention to how we got those 3's. There are GOOD 3's and bad 3's. We were getting open in rhythm 3's and those are gonna go down with Pro players. The ball movement is gonna be there cuz we have very good PG's that are REAL PG's that know how to make plays and think the game. Most of us have forgotten what it looks like when you have good PG play.

I say about 70% of our 3s were good 3s. I think some of us forget what shots are good shots when many of them happen to fall.

Well with this team we have to get good shooting. It's not always gonna be there, but with this defense we'll be able to win tighter games. This was a blowout due to great D and great shooting. That will happen a lot this year too. The D is the constant and the shooting will be up and down, but that doesn't mean we won't win those games. They just won't be blowouts.

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11/2/2012  11:10 PM
kurt thomas and camby can be knicks until they're 50 as far as im concerned
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11/2/2012  11:11 PM
nixluva wrote:
3G4G wrote:
nixluva wrote:
3G4G wrote:We beat Boston first game last year. I won't fall for the trickery so easily with this team. I'll wait to see if we can win a game without shooting so many 3s and if the shots aren't quite falling from long range. Carmelo and Smith almost let the momentum get completely away but Kidd and Novak wouldn't allow it to happen and then Felton came along to duplicate.

You have to pay closer attention to how we got those 3's. There are GOOD 3's and bad 3's. We were getting open in rhythm 3's and those are gonna go down with Pro players. The ball movement is gonna be there cuz we have very good PG's that are REAL PG's that know how to make plays and think the game. Most of us have forgotten what it looks like when you have good PG play.

I say about 70% of our 3s were good 3s. I think some of us forget what shots are good shots when many of them happen to fall.

Well with this team we have to get good shooting. It's not always gonna be there, but with this defense we'll be able to win tighter games. This was a blowout due to great D and great shooting. That will happen a lot this year too. The D is the constant and the shooting will be up and down, but that doesn't mean we won't win those games. They just won't be blowouts.

No this was a blowout because we were hitting shots and the Heat do not consistently treat us with respect. We played them tight or very competitively at The Garden the past few games. Dollars to Donuts the next time we play the Heat will not show the same lack of focus and we won't hit 50% from deep. Yes we played D but the Heat had plenty of open looks themselves.

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11/2/2012  11:12 PM
anrst wrote:kurt thomas and camby can be knicks until they're 50 as far as im concerned
kurt did a good job he still can play at 40. Hopefully Camby will be healthy because he will give tyson some rest
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11/2/2012  11:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2012  11:18 PM
3G4G wrote:
nixluva wrote:
3G4G wrote:
nixluva wrote:
3G4G wrote:We beat Boston first game last year. I won't fall for the trickery so easily with this team. I'll wait to see if we can win a game without shooting so many 3s and if the shots aren't quite falling from long range. Carmelo and Smith almost let the momentum get completely away but Kidd and Novak wouldn't allow it to happen and then Felton came along to duplicate.

You have to pay closer attention to how we got those 3's. There are GOOD 3's and bad 3's. We were getting open in rhythm 3's and those are gonna go down with Pro players. The ball movement is gonna be there cuz we have very good PG's that are REAL PG's that know how to make plays and think the game. Most of us have forgotten what it looks like when you have good PG play.

I say about 70% of our 3s were good 3s. I think some of us forget what shots are good shots when many of them happen to fall.

Well with this team we have to get good shooting. It's not always gonna be there, but with this defense we'll be able to win tighter games. This was a blowout due to great D and great shooting. That will happen a lot this year too. The D is the constant and the shooting will be up and down, but that doesn't mean we won't win those games. They just won't be blowouts.

No this was a blowout because we were hitting shots and the Heat do not consistently treat us with respect. We played them tight or very competitively at The Garden the past few games. Dollars to Donuts the next time we play the Heat will not show the same lack of focus and we won't hit 50% from deep. Yes we played D but the Heat had plenty of open looks themselves.

I hate threes..But admit this...Those threes were good open looks off Miami double teaming us...That defense worked on us last year because Fields couldn't knock down that open jumper...All our guys knocked down the open jumper which wont happen all the time..But they were wide open off the extra pass...Which is what u want..

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11/2/2012  11:23 PM
Glad we got the win but it appears Miami has zero respect for our team.
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11/2/2012  11:24 PM
look i know the heat are very good but it seems like all the nba analysts are making excuses of why the heat lost. I've heard everything from the heat partying last night to the refs helping us lol. maybe these idiot nba analysts would realize that we won becasue we palyed great defense and we moved the ball much betetr than the heat.
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