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7/9/2012  10:33 AM
RonRon wrote:I don't think Camby could play with Tyson Chandler, maybe on the last possession, or certain situations like that, but not major minutes.
While a player like Mahimi, would be able to play with Chandler or Amare.

Camby is a veteran but Mahimi is much younger, if they are both the same price, I do not know who should be the better target.
I love Camby, never wanted him to go, but if he can't play with Tyson Chandler together efficiently, I don't know how much better it makes us.
It does add to our depth and keep us fresh, with spreaded minutes.

If Melo cannot post up with Tyson Chandler and Amare, I am not sure if he can do the same with Camby/TC/Amare.

Why would you have Tyson and Camby in the game at the same time anyway, unless you just wanted to stop a 3rd quarter charge defensively while you're nursing a big lead? Camby's next to useless offensively at this point, and having a front line of Tyson Melo Camby is just begging people to moan about more iso-ball.

Camby has to be here solely to keep Tyson from wearing down. We have no backup C.

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7/9/2012  11:42 AM
jrodmc wrote:

Why would you have Tyson and Camby in the game at the same time anyway, unless you just wanted to stop a 3rd quarter charge defensively while you're nursing a big lead? Camby's next to useless offensively at this point, and having a front line of Tyson Melo Camby is just begging people to moan about more iso-ball.

Camby has to be here solely to keep Tyson from wearing down. We have no backup C.

Imagine the horror on offense with Jared Jeffries and Camby on the court at the same time...

But we really need some rebounding- I hated watching us miss out on every single rebound last season. Even when we played well defensively in a possession, we blew it because once thge team had missed a bad shot, they got the rebound and scored.

In case we miss out on Camby, what other cheap rebounders are out there? Are there any?

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7/9/2012  11:46 AM
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jrodmc wrote:

Why would you have Tyson and Camby in the game at the same time anyway, unless you just wanted to stop a 3rd quarter charge defensively while you're nursing a big lead? Camby's next to useless offensively at this point, and having a front line of Tyson Melo Camby is just begging people to moan about more iso-ball.

Camby has to be here solely to keep Tyson from wearing down. We have no backup C.

Imagine the horror on offense with Jared Jeffries and Camby on the court at the same time...

Thanks, that's a mental image I didn't need to see. Why don't you throw in a Fields jumper and Toney D running the O all at the same time? Maybe you could ressurect Zombie Bill Walker to play SF?

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7/9/2012  12:24 PM
RonRon wrote:
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The Boston Celtics have emerged as a serious suitor for Courtney Lee after coach Doc Rivers met with the free-agent guard Saturday night, according to sources familiar with Boston's thinking.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Celtics, in the wake of losing sharpshooter Ray Allen to the Miami Heat, have ratcheted up their pursuit of Lee as a possible replacement.
The Celtics don't have the salary-cap space to sign Lee outright, but sources say the Rockets have let it be known that they're willing to participate in sign-and-trade deals with both Marcus Camby and Lee amid the increasing likelihood that neither of those coveted free agents will be returning to Houston.

The Minnesota Timberwolves, Atlanta Hawks, Indiana Pacers, Dallas Mavericks and Phoenix Suns, sources said, are the other teams in pursuit of Lee.

I don't understand why they would need Terry/Lee/Bradley/E'Twaun Moore... all at the 2. Seems like overkill and a situation where someone would be unhappy.

collecting assets for future deals?

Yeah, wouldn't be surprised to see Celtics in the market for Chris Paul at the trade deadline if LAC decides they need to move him with CP3 not signing his extension.

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7/9/2012  12:47 PM
jrodmc wrote:
RonRon wrote:I don't think Camby could play with Tyson Chandler, maybe on the last possession, or certain situations like that, but not major minutes.
While a player like Mahimi, would be able to play with Chandler or Amare.

Camby is a veteran but Mahimi is much younger, if they are both the same price, I do not know who should be the better target.
I love Camby, never wanted him to go, but if he can't play with Tyson Chandler together efficiently, I don't know how much better it makes us.
It does add to our depth and keep us fresh, with spreaded minutes.

If Melo cannot post up with Tyson Chandler and Amare, I am not sure if he can do the same with Camby/TC/Amare.

Why would you have Tyson and Camby in the game at the same time anyway, unless you just wanted to stop a 3rd quarter charge defensively while you're nursing a big lead? Camby's next to useless offensively at this point, and having a front line of Tyson Melo Camby is just begging people to moan about more iso-ball.

Camby has to be here solely to keep Tyson from wearing down. We have no backup C.

Because of their ability to rebound and block shots, they are our best 2 players, no one comes close.
And because JJ will most likely be hurt somewhere a long the way.

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7/9/2012  12:54 PM
crzymdups wrote:
RonRon wrote:
JohnStarksFan wrote:
ATrain wrote:
The Boston Celtics have emerged as a serious suitor for Courtney Lee after coach Doc Rivers met with the free-agent guard Saturday night, according to sources familiar with Boston's thinking.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Celtics, in the wake of losing sharpshooter Ray Allen to the Miami Heat, have ratcheted up their pursuit of Lee as a possible replacement.
The Celtics don't have the salary-cap space to sign Lee outright, but sources say the Rockets have let it be known that they're willing to participate in sign-and-trade deals with both Marcus Camby and Lee amid the increasing likelihood that neither of those coveted free agents will be returning to Houston.

The Minnesota Timberwolves, Atlanta Hawks, Indiana Pacers, Dallas Mavericks and Phoenix Suns, sources said, are the other teams in pursuit of Lee.

I don't understand why they would need Terry/Lee/Bradley/E'Twaun Moore... all at the 2. Seems like overkill and a situation where someone would be unhappy.

collecting assets for future deals?

Yeah, wouldn't be surprised to see Celtics in the market for Chris Paul at the trade deadline if LAC decides they need to move him with CP3 not signing his extension.

Paul's going to stay in LA. Don't read into that as anything. LAC will offer him a max deal at the end of the season and he'll take it. Why take 3 when he can get 6?

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7/9/2012  1:05 PM
RonRon wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
RonRon wrote:I don't think Camby could play with Tyson Chandler, maybe on the last possession, or certain situations like that, but not major minutes.
While a player like Mahimi, would be able to play with Chandler or Amare.

Camby is a veteran but Mahimi is much younger, if they are both the same price, I do not know who should be the better target.
I love Camby, never wanted him to go, but if he can't play with Tyson Chandler together efficiently, I don't know how much better it makes us.
It does add to our depth and keep us fresh, with spreaded minutes.

If Melo cannot post up with Tyson Chandler and Amare, I am not sure if he can do the same with Camby/TC/Amare.

Why would you have Tyson and Camby in the game at the same time anyway, unless you just wanted to stop a 3rd quarter charge defensively while you're nursing a big lead? Camby's next to useless offensively at this point, and having a front line of Tyson Melo Camby is just begging people to moan about more iso-ball.

Camby has to be here solely to keep Tyson from wearing down. We have no backup C.

Because of their ability to rebound and block shots, they are our best 2 players, no one comes close.
And because JJ will most likely be hurt somewhere a long the way.

We need two shot blockers on the floor at all times? If we're now signing people to back up Fishlips, I'm very afraid.

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7/9/2012  2:11 PM
Nets get Howard,Jason Richardson,Earl Clark
Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said.
Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets.
Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.


What an awful trade for the Magic i wouldnt want anyone of those players. Houston should trade for him. They will own his Bird rights at worst U sign and trade him 2 the Nets later

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7/9/2012  2:36 PM
Jmpasq wrote:Nets get Howard,Jason Richardson,Earl Clark
Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said.
Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets.
Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.


What an awful trade for the Magic i wouldnt want anyone of those players. Houston should trade for him. They will own his Bird rights at worst U sign and trade him 2 the Nets later

I swear, the Russion Billionare is paying off the league with foreign accounts or in CASH.
Magic should at least have at least got 1 pick out of Ryan Anderson, what a horrible trade.
They should be able to get a much better deal, than this pile of trash.
Net's picks mean NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, Sun's were able to get 4 picks and a trade exemption out of Nash. And The #1 center in the league gets traded for less to a rival.

Cleveland is either getting sweet revenge on Lebron or/and digging a hole in their decade to not being able to compete for a ring.
Looks like we will have to wait another freaking decade or 2.

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7/9/2012  2:40 PM
Jmpasq wrote:Nets get Howard,Jason Richardson,Earl Clark
Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said.
Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets.
Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.


What an awful trade for the Magic i wouldnt want anyone of those players. Houston should trade for him. They will own his Bird rights at worst U sign and trade him 2 the Nets later


They got MUCH more for an injured Dwight Howard than the Cavs got for a healthy Lebron.
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7/9/2012  2:55 PM
Yes! Novak has agreed to return according to many twitter things. He was important for his shooting and also for team chemistry.
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7/9/2012  2:58 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Nets get Howard,Jason Richardson,Earl Clark
Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said.
Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets.
Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.


What an awful trade for the Magic i wouldnt want anyone of those players. Houston should trade for him. They will own his Bird rights at worst U sign and trade him 2 the Nets later


They got MUCH more for an injured Dwight Howard than the Cavs got for a healthy Lebron.


Big NBA conspiracy???


BKLYN's picks mean NOTHING with that squad.
With Ryan Anderson and Dwight Howard, they should look to unload Turkeglu, and acquire as many young players/assets/ and picks.
Ryan Anderson should have looked to unload Duhon or Q, with a 1st round pick.
With Dwight Howard unloading 2/3 with Turkeglu, Jason Richardson, and Duhon/Q
I agree, Houston's picks are much more attractive, with expirings, young players, and future picks.

Maybe, this was part of "Dwight's black mail" because they had a "under the table' trade me to Nets, in the summer.
Unfortunately he was got HURT, so Magic lose out on this verbal agreement.

Billionare paying off millions as pennies, under the table, to show Dolan who will take over as the wealthiest owner in NY.

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7/9/2012  3:04 PM
Novak: 4yrs for 15 is a little high but he can always be traded with that salary if need be.
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7/9/2012  3:12 PM
Novak's salary is not outrageous by any means, we've seen worst this summer alone. Now Landry Fields and Omer Asik...those are ****ing terrible!
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7/9/2012  3:13 PM
RonRon wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Nets get Howard,Jason Richardson,Earl Clark
Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said.
Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets.
Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.


What an awful trade for the Magic i wouldnt want anyone of those players. Houston should trade for him. They will own his Bird rights at worst U sign and trade him 2 the Nets later


They got MUCH more for an injured Dwight Howard than the Cavs got for a healthy Lebron.


Big NBA conspiracy???


BKLYN's picks mean NOTHING with that squad.
With Ryan Anderson and Dwight Howard, they should look to unload Turkeglu, and acquire as many young players/assets/ and picks.
Ryan Anderson should have looked to unload Duhon or Q, with a 1st round pick.
With Dwight Howard unloading 2/3 with Turkeglu, Jason Richardson, and Duhon/Q
I agree, Houston's picks are much more attractive, with expirings, young players, and future picks.

Maybe, this was part of "Dwight's black mail" because they had a "under the table' trade me to Nets, in the summer.
Unfortunately he was got HURT, so Magic lose out on this verbal agreement.

Billionare paying off millions as pennies, under the table, to show Dolan who will take over as the wealthiest owner in NY.


1st rd picks mean nothing? Did Isiah Thomas hack into your account?
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7/9/2012  3:17 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Novak: 4yrs for 15 is a little high but he can always be traded with that salary if need be.

Probably deserves $3mil per but its only a million more per year and we're capped out anyway so who cares about the extra tax Dolan has to pay.

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7/9/2012  3:24 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
RonRon wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Nets get Howard,Jason Richardson,Earl Clark
Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said.
Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets.
Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.


What an awful trade for the Magic i wouldnt want anyone of those players. Houston should trade for him. They will own his Bird rights at worst U sign and trade him 2 the Nets later


They got MUCH more for an injured Dwight Howard than the Cavs got for a healthy Lebron.


Big NBA conspiracy???


BKLYN's picks mean NOTHING with that squad.
With Ryan Anderson and Dwight Howard, they should look to unload Turkeglu, and acquire as many young players/assets/ and picks.
Ryan Anderson should have looked to unload Duhon or Q, with a 1st round pick.
With Dwight Howard unloading 2/3 with Turkeglu, Jason Richardson, and Duhon/Q
I agree, Houston's picks are much more attractive, with expirings, young players, and future picks.

Maybe, this was part of "Dwight's black mail" because they had a "under the table' trade me to Nets, in the summer.
Unfortunately he was got HURT, so Magic lose out on this verbal agreement.

Billionare paying off millions as pennies, under the table, to show Dolan who will take over as the wealthiest owner in NY.


1st rd picks mean nothing? Did Isiah Thomas hack into your account?

New Jersey's 1st round picks are going to be dead last the next 5 years, Houston was willing to give all of their picks this year, with future draft picks,

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7/9/2012  3:35 PM
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yellowboy90 wrote:Novak: 4yrs for 15 is a little high but he can always be traded with that salary if need be.

Probably deserves $3mil per but its only a million more per year and we're capped out anyway so who cares about the extra tax Dolan has to pay.

Yeah it is not terrible by any means. He is just a little over paid for my taste but by no way is it a bad NBA contract for what he does.

I just hope JR Smith has blinders on and ear plugs in because he will be vastly under paid here. If he takes the discount he should be applauded but he won't be.

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7/9/2012  3:42 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Novak: 4yrs for 15 is a little high but he can always be traded with that salary if need be.

Probably deserves $3mil per but its only a million more per year and we're capped out anyway so who cares about the extra tax Dolan has to pay.

Yeah it is not terrible by any means. He is just a little over paid for my taste but by no way is it a bad NBA contract for what he does.

I just hope JR Smith has blinders on and ear plugs in because he will be vastly under paid here. If he takes the discount he should be applauded but he won't be.

yeah, messed up part is, we might not even resign him, when we get his early bird rights, because we will complain about tax apron.
With our luck, we will low ball him and he leaves...

I honestly can't see why he would stay in NY at 2.8m when he can at least get 4-5m for 3-4 years.
On top of this, our summer league roster doesn't even have good SG/SFs that can shoot and play D or handle the ball.

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7/9/2012  3:52 PM
RonRon wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
RonRon wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Nets get Howard,Jason Richardson,Earl Clark
Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said.
Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets.
Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.


What an awful trade for the Magic i wouldnt want anyone of those players. Houston should trade for him. They will own his Bird rights at worst U sign and trade him 2 the Nets later


They got MUCH more for an injured Dwight Howard than the Cavs got for a healthy Lebron.


Big NBA conspiracy???


BKLYN's picks mean NOTHING with that squad.
With Ryan Anderson and Dwight Howard, they should look to unload Turkeglu, and acquire as many young players/assets/ and picks.
Ryan Anderson should have looked to unload Duhon or Q, with a 1st round pick.
With Dwight Howard unloading 2/3 with Turkeglu, Jason Richardson, and Duhon/Q
I agree, Houston's picks are much more attractive, with expirings, young players, and future picks.

Maybe, this was part of "Dwight's black mail" because they had a "under the table' trade me to Nets, in the summer.
Unfortunately he was got HURT, so Magic lose out on this verbal agreement.

Billionare paying off millions as pennies, under the table, to show Dolan who will take over as the wealthiest owner in NY.


1st rd picks mean nothing? Did Isiah Thomas hack into your account?

New Jersey's 1st round picks are going to be dead last the next 5 years, Houston was willing to give all of their picks this year, with future draft picks,


You mean Brooklyn? And you think they have the best team in the NBA? Regardless, late first round picks are definitely valuable. With the new CBA making it so hard to trade for picks, even 2nd rd picks are very valuable.
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