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misterearl
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4/19/2012  8:18 AM
Au Contraire

Nalod: "Woodson is achieving by lowering the standard."

Nalod, it was a brilliant chess move and you missed it. Mike Woodson raised the expectations for Carmelo by giving him his conditional freedom. The conditions included the added responsibility for team performance. In this context, Carmelo's individual stats are a coincidence. Woodson understood that an elite talent does not conform to shadows, it thrives in the spotlight.

Carmelo wanted the brightest lights of Broadway because at his core he is a performer. Ali needed Frazier. Borg needed McEnroe. Federer needs Nadal. At its core, basketball is a game of one on one competition. Watch the best street ballers on the playground. They relish the challenge of the other guys best player. Only a few athletes have the skill set and competitive fire to take on the world.

Carmelo smiles at adversity. He sneers at pain. He is learning how to lead. His triple double was a benchmark of things unseen.

While everyone was kvetching over spilt milk and personal prejudice, Carmelo was learning how to raise his game. inspired by the trust of Mike Woodson, he is defying every dude who knew his singular talent was selfish.

Carmelo Anthony, a young man, is a work in progress.

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4/19/2012  10:37 AM
misterearl wrote:Au Contraire

Nalod: "Woodson is achieving by lowering the standard."

Nalod, it was a brilliant chess move and you missed it. Mike Woodson raised the expectations for Carmelo by giving him his conditional freedom. The conditions included the added responsibility for team performance. In this context, Carmelo's individual stats are a coincidence. Woodson understood that an elite talent does not conform to shadows, it thrives in the spotlight.

Carmelo wanted the brightest lights of Broadway because at his core he is a performer. Ali needed Frazier. Borg needed McEnroe. Federer needs Nadal. At its core, basketball is a game of one on one competition. Watch the best street ballers on the playground. They relish the challenge of the other guys best player. Only a few athletes have the skill set and competitive fire to take on the world.

Carmelo smiles at adversity. He sneers at pain. He is learning how to lead. His triple double was a benchmark of things unseen.

While everyone was kvetching over spilt milk and personal prejudice, Carmelo was learning how to raise his game. inspired by the trust of Mike Woodson, he is defying every dude who knew his singular talent was selfish.

Carmelo Anthony, a young man, is a work in progress.

Earl, more and more are starting to come around and appreciate a 15-5 record. And, more and more are starting to appreciate what Melo is capable and are embracing it.

I don't know what the standard is for being pretty but a winning standard is what I get excited over.

Its harder for some people to embraced what they once loathed but it might just take more time.

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4/19/2012  10:51 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:Au Contraire

Nalod: "Woodson is achieving by lowering the standard."

Nalod, it was a brilliant chess move and you missed it. Mike Woodson raised the expectations for Carmelo by giving him his conditional freedom. The conditions included the added responsibility for team performance. In this context, Carmelo's individual stats are a coincidence. Woodson understood that an elite talent does not conform to shadows, it thrives in the spotlight.

Carmelo wanted the brightest lights of Broadway because at his core he is a performer. Ali needed Frazier. Borg needed McEnroe. Federer needs Nadal. At its core, basketball is a game of one on one competition. Watch the best street ballers on the playground. They relish the challenge of the other guys best player. Only a few athletes have the skill set and competitive fire to take on the world.

Carmelo smiles at adversity. He sneers at pain. He is learning how to lead. His triple double was a benchmark of things unseen.

While everyone was kvetching over spilt milk and personal prejudice, Carmelo was learning how to raise his game. inspired by the trust of Mike Woodson, he is defying every dude who knew his singular talent was selfish.

Carmelo Anthony, a young man, is a work in progress.

Earl, more and more are starting to come around and appreciate a 15-5 record. And, more and more are starting to appreciate what Melo is capable and are embracing it.

I don't know what the standard is for being pretty but a winning standard is what I get excited over.

Its harder for some people to embraced what they once loathed but it might just take more time.

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4/19/2012  10:53 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:Au Contraire

Nalod: "Woodson is achieving by lowering the standard."

Nalod, it was a brilliant chess move and you missed it. Mike Woodson raised the expectations for Carmelo by giving him his conditional freedom. The conditions included the added responsibility for team performance. In this context, Carmelo's individual stats are a coincidence. Woodson understood that an elite talent does not conform to shadows, it thrives in the spotlight.

Carmelo wanted the brightest lights of Broadway because at his core he is a performer. Ali needed Frazier. Borg needed McEnroe. Federer needs Nadal. At its core, basketball is a game of one on one competition. Watch the best street ballers on the playground. They relish the challenge of the other guys best player. Only a few athletes have the skill set and competitive fire to take on the world.

Carmelo smiles at adversity. He sneers at pain. He is learning how to lead. His triple double was a benchmark of things unseen.

While everyone was kvetching over spilt milk and personal prejudice, Carmelo was learning how to raise his game. inspired by the trust of Mike Woodson, he is defying every dude who knew his singular talent was selfish.

Carmelo Anthony, a young man, is a work in progress.

Earl, more and more are starting to come around and appreciate a 15-5 record. And, more and more are starting to appreciate what Melo is capable and are embracing it.

I don't know what the standard is for being pretty but a winning standard is what I get excited over.

Its harder for some people to embraced what they once loathed but it might just take more time.

Feel the same way. I just care about winning no matter who is on a gooo streak and who isn't
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4/19/2012  10:54 AM
I like the way the man coaches. He seems willing to pull players aside and explain to them what it is they are doing wrong in the heat of the moment. He seems to know what each of his players need and gives it to them. He uses timeouts at the proper moment. His players know where they stand with him and he holds them accountable for poor decisions making and for lackadaisical defense.

He is obviously getting the most from his roster.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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4/19/2012  11:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2012  11:03 AM
Good Catch

Olbrannon wrote:I like the way the man coaches. He seems willing to pull players aside and explain to them what it is they are doing wrong in the heat of the moment. He seems to know what each of his players need and gives it to them. He uses timeouts at the proper moment. His players know where they stand with him and he holds them accountable for poor decisions making and for lackadaisical defense.

He is obviously getting the most from his roster.

When Toney Douglas was pulled, Wodson gave him a mini-lecture. It was done in plain view, standing face to face, but it was respectful and stern at the same time. Douglas did not walk away.

Mike Woodson, during another stoppage in play for a free throw, talked to Shumpert a similar manner. This time it was more subtle. More like a friendly reminder, just in passing, to do something. The body language in both cases was of mutual respect. No pouting or tantrums. Professionalism.

During the Celtics game, Novak stumbled into his arms after being fouled on a three. Woodson cracked a rare smile and high fived Novak.

Woodson is constantly engaged with his players and one gets the feeling they dig it.

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4/19/2012  11:04 AM
misterearl wrote:Good Catch

Olbrannon wrote:I like the way the man coaches. He seems willing to pull players aside and explain to them what it is they are doing wrong in the heat of the moment. He seems to know what each of his players need and gives it to them. He uses timeouts at the proper moment. His players know where they stand with him and he holds them accountable for poor decisions making and for lackadaisical defense.

He is obviously getting the most from his roster.

When Toney Douglas was pulled, Wodson gave him a mini-lecture. It was done in plain view, standing face to face, but it was respectful and stern at the same time. Douglas did not walk away.

Mike Woodson, during another stoppage in play for a free throw, talked to Shumpert a similar manner. This time it was more subtle. More like a friendly reminder, just in passing, to do something. The body language in both cases was of mutual respect. No pouting or tantrums. Professionalism.

Woodson is constantly engaged with his players and one gets the feeling they dig it.

There was one play where Fields missed a defensive assignment/switch and the Knicks gave up a 3. Fields immediately got yanked. You don't fall asleep in Woody's defense and if you do, you sit.

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4/19/2012  11:04 AM
no matter what happens in the playoffs Woody needs to get extended. I mean a fully healthy Knicks team can do damage but we haven't been able to see it because our team has been injured all year. Woodson has a good track record i mean the year he got fired he won 53 games that doesn't happen too often
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4/19/2012  11:05 AM
This 15-5 stretch is the best 2 way sustainable basketball we've seen in God knows how long (2001?). This team, the way they're playing, gutting out ugly victories, blowing out teams we should, giving elite teams all they can handle, clamping down on D when we need to, is what we as Knicks fans have been waiting for awhile. We took a strange route to get there, but we're finally close to what we can be. We have the superstar(s) in place, the Defensive minded Center we've always wanted, the promising rookie that could potentially be another star, the diamond in the rough point guard, the best shooter in the NBA, the no nonsense straight shooting coach in place. The early turmoil this season actually served as a blessing in disguise, as this team is poised to do great things for the next few years.
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4/19/2012  11:08 AM
Street Magic

ChuckBuck wrote:This 15-5 stretch is the best 2 way sustainable basketball we've seen in God knows how long (2001?). This team, the way they're playing, gutting out ugly victories, blowing out teams we should, giving elite teams all they can handle, clamping down on D when we need to, is what we as Knicks fans have been waiting for awhile. We took a strange route to get there, but we're finally close to what we can be. We have the superstar(s) in place, the Defensive minded Center we've always wanted, the promising rookie that could potentially be another star, the diamond in the rough point guard, the best shooter in the NBA, the no nonsense straight shooting coach in place. The early turmoil this season actually served as a blessing in disguise, as this team is poised to do great things for the next few years.

If Mike Woodson can squeeze productive minutes (8/8) out of the earthy remains of Mike Bibby, he has more tricks up his sleeve than David Blaine.

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4/19/2012  11:17 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:Au Contraire

Nalod: "Woodson is achieving by lowering the standard."

Nalod, it was a brilliant chess move and you missed it. Mike Woodson raised the expectations for Carmelo by giving him his conditional freedom. The conditions included the added responsibility for team performance. In this context, Carmelo's individual stats are a coincidence. Woodson understood that an elite talent does not conform to shadows, it thrives in the spotlight.

Carmelo wanted the brightest lights of Broadway because at his core he is a performer. Ali needed Frazier. Borg needed McEnroe. Federer needs Nadal. At its core, basketball is a game of one on one competition. Watch the best street ballers on the playground. They relish the challenge of the other guys best player. Only a few athletes have the skill set and competitive fire to take on the world.

Carmelo smiles at adversity. He sneers at pain. He is learning how to lead. His triple double was a benchmark of things unseen.

While everyone was kvetching over spilt milk and personal prejudice, Carmelo was learning how to raise his game. inspired by the trust of Mike Woodson, he is defying every dude who knew his singular talent was selfish.

Carmelo Anthony, a young man, is a work in progress.

Earl, more and more are starting to come around and appreciate a 15-5 record. And, more and more are starting to appreciate what Melo is capable and are embracing it.

I don't know what the standard is for being pretty but a winning standard is what I get excited over.

Its harder for some people to embraced what they once loathed but it might just take more time.

People are crossing over to the afterlife because of Melo????

LOL

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4/19/2012  11:18 AM
Anji wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:Au Contraire

Nalod: "Woodson is achieving by lowering the standard."

Nalod, it was a brilliant chess move and you missed it. Mike Woodson raised the expectations for Carmelo by giving him his conditional freedom. The conditions included the added responsibility for team performance. In this context, Carmelo's individual stats are a coincidence. Woodson understood that an elite talent does not conform to shadows, it thrives in the spotlight.

Carmelo wanted the brightest lights of Broadway because at his core he is a performer. Ali needed Frazier. Borg needed McEnroe. Federer needs Nadal. At its core, basketball is a game of one on one competition. Watch the best street ballers on the playground. They relish the challenge of the other guys best player. Only a few athletes have the skill set and competitive fire to take on the world.

Carmelo smiles at adversity. He sneers at pain. He is learning how to lead. His triple double was a benchmark of things unseen.

While everyone was kvetching over spilt milk and personal prejudice, Carmelo was learning how to raise his game. inspired by the trust of Mike Woodson, he is defying every dude who knew his singular talent was selfish.

Carmelo Anthony, a young man, is a work in progress.

Earl, more and more are starting to come around and appreciate a 15-5 record. And, more and more are starting to appreciate what Melo is capable and are embracing it.

I don't know what the standard is for being pretty but a winning standard is what I get excited over.

Its harder for some people to embraced what they once loathed but it might just take more time.

People are crossing over to the afterlife because of Melo????

LOL

I think they are getting Colonoscopies

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4/19/2012  11:20 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Anji wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:Au Contraire

Nalod: "Woodson is achieving by lowering the standard."

Nalod, it was a brilliant chess move and you missed it. Mike Woodson raised the expectations for Carmelo by giving him his conditional freedom. The conditions included the added responsibility for team performance. In this context, Carmelo's individual stats are a coincidence. Woodson understood that an elite talent does not conform to shadows, it thrives in the spotlight.

Carmelo wanted the brightest lights of Broadway because at his core he is a performer. Ali needed Frazier. Borg needed McEnroe. Federer needs Nadal. At its core, basketball is a game of one on one competition. Watch the best street ballers on the playground. They relish the challenge of the other guys best player. Only a few athletes have the skill set and competitive fire to take on the world.

Carmelo smiles at adversity. He sneers at pain. He is learning how to lead. His triple double was a benchmark of things unseen.

While everyone was kvetching over spilt milk and personal prejudice, Carmelo was learning how to raise his game. inspired by the trust of Mike Woodson, he is defying every dude who knew his singular talent was selfish.

Carmelo Anthony, a young man, is a work in progress.

Earl, more and more are starting to come around and appreciate a 15-5 record. And, more and more are starting to appreciate what Melo is capable and are embracing it.

I don't know what the standard is for being pretty but a winning standard is what I get excited over.

Its harder for some people to embraced what they once loathed but it might just take more time.

People are crossing over to the afterlife because of Melo????

LOL

I think they are getting Colonoscopies

LOL don't you guy's know that's Mike Woodson's Chocolate Tunnel!

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4/19/2012  11:24 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:Good Catch

Olbrannon wrote:I like the way the man coaches. He seems willing to pull players aside and explain to them what it is they are doing wrong in the heat of the moment. He seems to know what each of his players need and gives it to them. He uses timeouts at the proper moment. His players know where they stand with him and he holds them accountable for poor decisions making and for lackadaisical defense.

He is obviously getting the most from his roster.

When Toney Douglas was pulled, Wodson gave him a mini-lecture. It was done in plain view, standing face to face, but it was respectful and stern at the same time. Douglas did not walk away.

Mike Woodson, during another stoppage in play for a free throw, talked to Shumpert a similar manner. This time it was more subtle. More like a friendly reminder, just in passing, to do something. The body language in both cases was of mutual respect. No pouting or tantrums. Professionalism.

Woodson is constantly engaged with his players and one gets the feeling they dig it.

There was one play where Fields missed a defensive assignment/switch and the Knicks gave up a 3. Fields immediately got yanked. You don't fall asleep in Woody's defense and if you do, you sit.


This what I think Melo is talking about when he says Mike Woodson holds players accountable.

If you are a star player, you have to believe that your skills will keep you on the court, but when your are watching a fool like Fields get no coaching, taking 5 three pointers in a game and leaving his man open constantly with zero punishment.........how would that make you feel when your the best player on the court and those players are waving you out of post ups when you have the other teams point guard on you???

The whole team is accountable now, not just Melo and his evil ISO.

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4/19/2012  11:39 AM
Its pretty obvious he knows the buttons to press..but he shouldnt get all the credit..were still running mda's play book
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4/19/2012  12:06 PM
Have You Actually SEEN The MDA Playbook?

knicks1248 wrote:Its pretty obvious he knows the buttons to press..but he shouldnt get all the credit..were still running mda's play book

First off, last night's win lifted the Knicks to a 15-5 record with Mike Woodson, a stunning little statistic, particularly when you consider that they were 18-24 under Mike D'Antoni. (And that included the Linsanity run.) That means that if the Knicks can win three of their last four games, Woodson would have as many wins this season as D'Antoni, in eighteen fewer games.

MDA's Playbook Is A Pamphlet

Mike Woodson's playbook is no book at all. It is a pragmatic approach to putting young men in the best position to suceed. It is the culmination of Bobby Knight, Red Holzman, Larry Brown and all his bright moments, bumps and bruises along the way.

Red sums up the so-called "playbook" up best.

"On offense you do what you want. On defense, you do what I want."

15-5. baby.

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4/19/2012  12:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2012  12:09 PM
misterearl wrote:Have You Actually SEEN The MDA Playbook?

knicks1248 wrote:Its pretty obvious he knows the buttons to press..but he shouldnt get all the credit..were still running mda's play book

First off, last night's win lifted the Knicks to a 15-5 record with Mike Woodson, a stunning little statistic, particularly when you consider that they were 18-24 under Mike D'Antoni. (And that included the Linsanity run.) That means that if the Knicks can win three of their last four games, Woodson would have as many wins this season as D'Antoni, in eighteen fewer games.

MDA's Playbook Is A Pamphlet

Mike Woodson's playbook is no book at all. It is a pragmatic approach to putting young men in the best position to suceed. It is the culmination of Bobby Knight, Red Holzman, Larry Brown and all his bright moments, bumps and bruises along the way.

Red sums up the so-called "playbook" up best.

"On offense you do what you want. On defense, you do what I want."

15-5. baby.

+1

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4/19/2012  12:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2012  12:18 PM
How Much Credit Does Phil Jackson Owe Paul Westhead?

knicks1248 wrote:Its pretty obvious he knows the buttons to press..but he shouldnt get all the credit..were still running mda's play book

Woodson is the freakin' head coach, ergo he gets all the credit.

If the results were the same then it would be pretty obvious Woodson stayed with the status quo. He did not.

The results are dramatically different. No matter how you prefer to rationalize it knicks1248, 15-5 and 18-24 are nothing alike.

Letting go of the past is never easy.

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4/19/2012  12:19 PM
misterearl is on fire with his logic lately. Might be hard for some people still infatuated with Gallo and NDA to take.
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4/19/2012  12:25 PM
DAMN MDA woodson is making you look bad

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