nixluva wrote:The way this team was playing before STAT and Melo came back it was a free flowing game and guys were playing hard on D. Things don't look smooth or fluid anymore. This is gonna take more time than I thought.

This was just a poorly played game and really this team still looks like they have no chemistry yet. The starting lineup is still struggling and of course it doesn't help if Melo is gonna shoot 2-12. From what I can see Lin has pulled back and is trying to develop some chemistry with STAT and Melo. It hasn't worked yet and so this team is struggling in the 1st and 3r qtrs. It's the same scenario every game now.

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Say hello to a losing streak. The rollercoaster continues but with good teams up next and my kool aid over, I can't see reasons to be hopeful.

Of course, the positive ones will fing positives and expect a win next game. Right now this team isn't playing winning basketball. Linsanity died when Melo and State came back. MDA hasn't been able to make this team work now that its healthy. The records during Linsanity and after the return are telling.

18-20

Yes, the Knicks are as bad as their record.

ya i miss that team we had last month

No, you miss the teams we played and the extensive home games. That JJ, Walker, Lin team was not winning in Boston or Dallas.

Thats is just silly talk - and childish.

Lin can't do squat because every team is adjusting and trapping him. MDA has to adjust and he is not really adjusting to this overplaying.

Also, what the heck is with the knicks picks? Nobody even touches their pick target. Its always a fake and a roll. What about a real freakin pick and maybe a slide for a jumper? Something a bit different than the same crap every time.

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SupremeCommander wrote:

tkf wrote:I say lets go back to lin taking 20-25 shots a game... I am down with that..

they are doubling him high and crowding the paint. those shots aren't there

And our genius offensive guru coach hasn't figured out a way to exploit yet what EVRY team has started to do to Lin.

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:What is wrong with Melo??????

Look, Melo had a Sh*t game. But, its tough to get into a rhythm in this equal opportunity offense. no way should Fields and Bill Walker ad guys like that have the same amount of shots as Melo and Stat. Feed the hot hand. When Stat was hot early, he should have touched it everytime. But thats not how we play.

I kind of agree with this. They didn't post him up enough. couple of times they did he got a foul and a layup. Once they went up one point they should have posted him up instead of chucking jumpers.

If you realize when Dallas went down 1...they called a timeout..after that they posted Dirk every time down the floor. Gotta be smart with your personnel. That's what you have Melo for..to close the game. could you imagine Miami not going to Lebron or Wade in the closing minutes or Lakers with Kobe the way Melo was just used. It's insulting. This is Melo's and Amare's Team and it's Lins job and end of the game to make sure both guys take the bulk of shots at the end when it's time to close. You're just letting the other team off the hook if you have your secondary players taking those shots cause they won't get foul shots.

FoeDiddy wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:What is wrong with Melo??????

Look, Melo had a Sh*t game. But, its tough to get into a rhythm in this equal opportunity offense. no way should Fields and Bill Walker ad guys like that have the same amount of shots as Melo and Stat. Feed the hot hand. When Stat was hot early, he should have touched it everytime. But thats not how we play.

I kind of agree with this. They didn't post him up enough. couple of times they did he got a foul and a layup. Once they went up one point they should have posted him up instead of chucking jumpers.

If you realize when Dallas went down 1...they called a timeout..after that they posted Dirk every time down the floor. Gotta be smart with your personnel. That's what you have Melo for..to close the game. could you imagine Miami not going to Lebron or Wade in the closing minutes or Lakers with Kobe the way Melo was just used. It's insulting. This is Melo's and Amare's Team and it's Lins job and end of the game to make sure both guys take the bulk of shots at the end when it's time to close. You're just letting the other team off the hook if you have your secondary players taking those shots cause they won't get foul shots.

Oh, I forgot. It does not fit into this "Free Flowing" offense.

mrKnickShot wrote:Look at all the Dirk ISO's. They work. And they would work with Melo as well and get him into the game.

Oh, I forgot. It does not fit into this "Free Flowing" offense.

Yea, exactly.

You either build an ISO team around Melo or you build an MDA team.

I prefer an MDA team, WE SAW AN MDA TEAM WHEN MELO WAS OUT AND LIN RAN US TO 8-1.

You might prefer Melo.

But let's not get it twisted: it's either Melo or MDA; this can't work the way it is.

JCrusher wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:What is wrong with Melo??????

Look, Melo had a Sh*t game. But, its tough to get into a rhythm in this equal opportunity offense. no way should Fields and Bill Walker ad guys like that have the same amount of shots as Melo and Stat. Feed the hot hand. When Stat was hot early, he should have touched it everytime. But thats not how we play.

I kind of agree with this. They didn't post him up enough. couple of times they did he got a foul and a layup. Once they went up one point they should have posted him up instead of chucking jumpers.

If you realize when Dallas went down 1...they called a timeout..after that they posted Dirk every time down the floor. Gotta be smart with your personnel. That's what you have Melo for..to close the game. could you imagine Miami not going to Lebron or Wade in the closing minutes or Lakers with Kobe the way Melo was just used. It's insulting. This is Melo's and Amare's Team and it's Lins job and end of the game to make sure both guys take the bulk of shots at the end when it's time to close. You're just letting the other team off the hook if you have your secondary players taking those shots cause they won't get foul shots.

amare is not much of a post up player he was doing a good job exploding to the rim and lin found him. Melo missed so many easy baskets that a 4 year old girl could drain lol

I'm talking of the period from when we were up 1 to being down 13. Our stars didn't get enough touches to close game. In that same period I don't remember another Maverick shooting it besides Dirk. Which either led to shots or free throws. Melo in that time period could have at least gotten to line if posted up.

Reason ISOs are used at end of games most of the time it's cause it's safe. All that picking and cutting at end of game is dangerous cause it leads to turnovers especially with refs calling less fouls. End of game should be Melo Iso time. It almost worked in Boston. If he gets doubled he can pass out and then can lead to ball movement for a open shot.

FoeDiddy wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:What is wrong with Melo??????

Look, Melo had a Sh*t game. But, its tough to get into a rhythm in this equal opportunity offense. no way should Fields and Bill Walker ad guys like that have the same amount of shots as Melo and Stat. Feed the hot hand. When Stat was hot early, he should have touched it everytime. But thats not how we play.

I kind of agree with this. They didn't post him up enough. couple of times they did he got a foul and a layup. Once they went up one point they should have posted him up instead of chucking jumpers.

If you realize when Dallas went down 1...they called a timeout..after that they posted Dirk every time down the floor. Gotta be smart with your personnel. That's what you have Melo for..to close the game. could you imagine Miami not going to Lebron or Wade in the closing minutes or Lakers with Kobe the way Melo was just used. It's insulting. This is Melo's and Amare's Team and it's Lins job and end of the game to make sure both guys take the bulk of shots at the end when it's time to close. You're just letting the other team off the hook if you have your secondary players taking those shots cause they won't get foul shots.

amare is not much of a post up player he was doing a good job exploding to the rim and lin found him. Melo missed so many easy baskets that a 4 year old girl could drain lol

I'm talking of the period from when we were up 1 to being down 13. Our stars didn't get enough touches to close game. In that same period I don't remember another Maverick shooting it besides Dirk. Which either led to shots or free throws. Melo in that time period could have at least gotten to line if posted up.

Reason ISOs are used at end of games most of the time it's cause it's safe. All that picking and cutting at end of game is dangerous cause it leads to turnovers especially with refs calling less fouls. End of game should be Melo Iso time. It almost worked in Boston. If he gets doubled he can pass out and then can lead to ball movement for a open shot.

FoeDiddy wrote:

Clean wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:What is wrong with Melo??????

Look, Melo had a Sh*t game. But, its tough to get into a rhythm in this equal opportunity offense. no way should Fields and Bill Walker ad guys like that have the same amount of shots as Melo and Stat. Feed the hot hand. When Stat was hot early, he should have touched it everytime. But thats not how we play.

I kind of agree with this. They didn't post him up enough. couple of times they did he got a foul and a layup. Once they went up one point they should have posted him up instead of chucking jumpers.

If you realize when Dallas went down 1...they called a timeout..after that they posted Dirk every time down the floor. Gotta be smart with your personnel. That's what you have Melo for..to close the game. could you imagine Miami not going to Lebron or Wade in the closing minutes or Lakers with Kobe the way Melo was just used. It's insulting. This is Melo's and Amare's Team and it's Lins job and end of the game to make sure both guys take the bulk of shots at the end when it's time to close. You're just letting the other team off the hook if you have your secondary players taking those shots cause they won't get foul shots.

We went to melo enough this season in ISO's. He is not the same player he used to be. Last year you tell me melo is going to ISO I have no problem with it. This season you know he is going to miss a layup or 3 or get blocked.

No the issue with the ISOs early in the season was it was done all game..that's a recipe for disaster and boredom. ISOs at end of game is used by all the Elite teams. Your Superstars take your shots at end. if you lose, so be it. At least your best players took the crucial shots.