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3/9/2009  2:53 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

To quote I said "at Gallo's height". There are lots of smaller GREAT shooters, I am talking tall guys.
(But, I was a huge UofA fan and was wondering what he would do in the NBA).

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3/9/2009  2:53 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

watch the games, he is shooting off the dribble, not just spotting up.... but again, why let the truth stand in the way of proving a point.. right?
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3/9/2009  2:55 PM
Posted by islesfan:
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Quick question, seriously, what rookie have you seen in recent memory at Gallo's height with his moves, ball handling, awareness (IQ) and watery shot? I can't really think of one. When you watch him play you don't see a 20 year old upstairs. I really hope this guys back ends up ok, cause he has star written all over him (and he can't even jump out of the gym.) BTW, I know he hasn't been playing long cause of the injury, but he is doing here what he did in Italy for the most part. (Actually, his shot is better now).

If (big if) it wasn't for his tempermental back, looking at what he has been doing lately, can you just imagine the kind of season he would have had? He would have given us more wins. Maybe it's one of those things where we get a great draft pick (think of when the Spurs got you know who cause Robinson was hurt) and Gallo returns better than ever and a great duo is created (we can hope).

What moves, ball handling or awareness?

Any time this guy scores more than 10 points there's a rush to make him out to be more than he is.

ok, for starters a 6'11" guy doing that God Shamgod dribble? He handles the ball like a guard at times. Awareness?? Are you watching the games. He is a great team defender, he seems to know where to be on defense. Are you watching the kid play?
It IS NOT ABOUT HIS POINTS. It's from watching what he does and asking "That guy is 20 years old and almost 7'?".
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3/9/2009  2:58 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

watch the games, he is shooting off the dribble, not just spotting up.... but again, why let the truth stand in the way of proving a point.. right?

Exactly, he is able to create and at his height he will get his shot off more times than not. Big guys can't keep up with him (speed, moves, etc.) and for the most part he will shoot over short guys cause his release is high (doesn't make it so easy for big guys too.).

I didn't realize it was Mr. half-empty, i mean Isles replying to my post at first
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3/9/2009  3:01 PM
dude is impressive as a shooter and I like his intensity now

was not a fan when he was doing the stand in the corner thing
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3/9/2009  3:09 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer:
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Quick question, seriously, what rookie have you seen in recent memory at Gallo's height with his moves, ball handling, awareness (IQ) and watery shot? I can't really think of one. When you watch him play you don't see a 20 year old upstairs. I really hope this guys back ends up ok, cause he has star written all over him (and he can't even jump out of the gym.) BTW, I know he hasn't been playing long cause of the injury, but he is doing here what he did in Italy for the most part. (Actually, his shot is better now).

If (big if) it wasn't for his tempermental back, looking at what he has been doing lately, can you just imagine the kind of season he would have had? He would have given us more wins. Maybe it's one of those things where we get a great draft pick (think of when the Spurs got you know who cause Robinson was hurt) and Gallo returns better than ever and a great duo is created (we can hope).

What moves, ball handling or awareness?

Any time this guy scores more than 10 points there's a rush to make him out to be more than he is.

ok, for starters a 6'11" guy doing that God Shamgod dribble? He handles the ball like a guard at times. Awareness?? Are you watching the games. He is a great team defender, he seems to know where to be on defense. Are you watching the kid play?
It IS NOT ABOUT HIS POINTS. It's from watching what he does and asking "That guy is 20 years old and almost 7'?".

Come on, that Shamgod dribble is so awkward it's laughable. He dribbles the ball too high and he's slow.

A great team defender? Compared to who, Lee? The kid is clueless at times, not knowing where he's supposed to be or who he's supposed to guard. I give the kid credit that he looks like he's trying out there on defense, unlike most of his teammates.

The only NBA quality skill he possesses is his shot. Everything else needs a ton of work.
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3/9/2009  3:11 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

watch the games, he is shooting off the dribble, not just spotting up.... but again, why let the truth stand in the way of proving a point.. right?

On average, how many of his shots are spot up jumpers or off picks that open him up? I'll even give you that herky jerky "move" he made on Pachulia the other day.
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3/9/2009  3:15 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by earthmansurfer:

Quick question, seriously, what rookie have you seen in recent memory at Gallo's height with his moves, ball handling, awareness (IQ) and watery shot? I can't really think of one. When you watch him play you don't see a 20 year old upstairs. I really hope this guys back ends up ok, cause he has star written all over him (and he can't even jump out of the gym.) BTW, I know he hasn't been playing long cause of the injury, but he is doing here what he did in Italy for the most part. (Actually, his shot is better now).

If (big if) it wasn't for his tempermental back, looking at what he has been doing lately, can you just imagine the kind of season he would have had? He would have given us more wins. Maybe it's one of those things where we get a great draft pick (think of when the Spurs got you know who cause Robinson was hurt) and Gallo returns better than ever and a great duo is created (we can hope).

What moves, ball handling or awareness?

Any time this guy scores more than 10 points there's a rush to make him out to be more than he is.

ok, for starters a 6'11" guy doing that God Shamgod dribble? He handles the ball like a guard at times. Awareness?? Are you watching the games. He is a great team defender, he seems to know where to be on defense. Are you watching the kid play?
It IS NOT ABOUT HIS POINTS. It's from watching what he does and asking "That guy is 20 years old and almost 7'?".

Come on, that Shamgod dribble is so awkward it's laughable. He dribbles the ball too high and he's slow.

A great team defender? Compared to who, Lee? The kid is clueless at times, not knowing where he's supposed to be or who he's supposed to guard. I give the kid credit that he looks like he's trying out there on defense, unlike most of his teammates.

The only NBA quality skill he possesses is his shot. Everything else needs a ton of work.

Bro, that dribble worked and I had to watch it a few times to appreciate it. He has a great handle, lowering the dribble should not be too tough on him.

I liked him on defense, for his size he seems to do a good job. I think I will agree with what most said here, "pleasantly surprised". He is no shot blocker, but a heady guy.

His shot is incredible, everything else will take time, he is a rookie. But you are really ignoring the other things he brings...

I'm not meaning to push you, but are you always so negative? I don't understand how one can't appreciate what we got??? I know there were other good prospects available, but you really seem a bit pessimistic. So be it, no problem with that, but I guess we all will get called out on our views, be they + or -.

Peace out,
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3/9/2009  4:03 PM
Wouldn't a rather simple solution to the "last 2 minutes of the game stagnation" issue be:

DRAW UP PLAYS FOR GALLO TO SHOOT THE BALL ?!

[Edited by - jamaicanjetfan on 03-09-2009 4:03 PM]
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3/9/2009  4:12 PM
Anybody catch that idiot rooster sign that Gallinari made after hitting a 3? I don't know if he's earned his minutes but I know for damn sure that he hasn't earned the right to make self promoting signs and I doubt that he ever will.
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3/9/2009  4:22 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Anybody catch that idiot rooster sign that Gallinari made after hitting a 3? I don't know if he's earned his minutes but I know for damn sure that he hasn't earned the right to make self promoting signs and I doubt that he ever will.

How lucky we are to have you as a Knicks fan.
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3/9/2009  4:25 PM
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Posted by islesfan:

Anybody catch that idiot rooster sign that Gallinari made after hitting a 3? I don't know if he's earned his minutes but I know for damn sure that he hasn't earned the right to make self promoting signs and I doubt that he ever will.

How lucky we are to have you as a Knicks fan.


It's an honor really
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3/9/2009  4:26 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Anybody catch that idiot rooster sign that Gallinari made after hitting a 3? I don't know if he's earned his minutes but I know for damn sure that he hasn't earned the right to make self promoting signs and I doubt that he ever will.

You never answered my question, "are you always so pessimistic?".

We each affect others around us. Just be conscious of that. We each create our own reality and belief system, be conscious of that too. Know the kind of way you are creating for you and those around you... I'm not saying not to be critical, but you got to see all sides of a situation.
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3/9/2009  4:27 PM
Posted by islesfan:
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Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

watch the games, he is shooting off the dribble, not just spotting up.... but again, why let the truth stand in the way of proving a point.. right?

On average, how many of his shots are spot up jumpers or off picks that open him up? I'll even give you that herky jerky "move" he made on Pachulia the other day.

you are not watching the game.. he had a move yesterday where he goes left, stops on a dime and swish..

Another move, hayes was playing him close, he took a quick step, hayes fell, gallo quick release and all net... those are not spot up shots my friend.. the average guy in the league does not do that.. kerr didn't do that.. I really have the feeling you are not watching the game by your comments...
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3/9/2009  4:31 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by islesfan:

Anybody catch that idiot rooster sign that Gallinari made after hitting a 3? I don't know if he's earned his minutes but I know for damn sure that he hasn't earned the right to make self promoting signs and I doubt that he ever will.

You never answered my question, "are you always so pessimistic?".

We each affect others around us. Just be conscious of that. We each create our own reality and belief system, be conscious of that too. Know the kind of way you are creating for you and those around you... I'm not saying not to be critical, but you got to see all sides of a situation.

I don't really consider myself to be pessimistic, as much as I do objective.
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3/9/2009  4:35 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

watch the games, he is shooting off the dribble, not just spotting up.... but again, why let the truth stand in the way of proving a point.. right?

On average, how many of his shots are spot up jumpers or off picks that open him up? I'll even give you that herky jerky "move" he made on Pachulia the other day.

you are not watching the game.. he had a move yesterday where he goes left, stops on a dime and swish..

Another move, hayes was playing him close, he took a quick step, hayes fell, gallo quick release and all net... those are not spot up shots my friend.. the average guy in the league does not do that.. kerr didn't do that.. I really have the feeling you are not watching the game by your comments...

I only got to see the final moments of the game last night. But you brought up a single move and a quick step on a statue named Jarvis Hayes. 80 to 90% of his baskets have come on spot up shots.
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3/9/2009  4:38 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

watch the games, he is shooting off the dribble, not just spotting up.... but again, why let the truth stand in the way of proving a point.. right?

On average, how many of his shots are spot up jumpers or off picks that open him up? I'll even give you that herky jerky "move" he made on Pachulia the other day.

you are not watching the game.. he had a move yesterday where he goes left, stops on a dime and swish..

Another move, hayes was playing him close, he took a quick step, hayes fell, gallo quick release and all net... those are not spot up shots my friend.. the average guy in the league does not do that.. kerr didn't do that.. I really have the feeling you are not watching the game by your comments...

I only got to see the final moments of the game last night. But you brought up a single move and a quick step on a statue named Jarvis Hayes. 80 to 90% of his baskets have come on spot up shots.

dude, seriously, if you have nothing to add feel free to not post.
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3/9/2009  4:45 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Steve Kerr was a hell of a spot up shooter. The 6th overall pick needs to do a lot more.

watch the games, he is shooting off the dribble, not just spotting up.... but again, why let the truth stand in the way of proving a point.. right?

On average, how many of his shots are spot up jumpers or off picks that open him up? I'll even give you that herky jerky "move" he made on Pachulia the other day.

you are not watching the game.. he had a move yesterday where he goes left, stops on a dime and swish..

Another move, hayes was playing him close, he took a quick step, hayes fell, gallo quick release and all net... those are not spot up shots my friend.. the average guy in the league does not do that.. kerr didn't do that.. I really have the feeling you are not watching the game by your comments...

I only got to see the final moments of the game last night. But you brought up a single move and a quick step on a statue named Jarvis Hayes. 80 to 90% of his baskets have come on spot up shots.

It doesn't matter.. you are saying you would like to see somthing else.. well I am telling you other instances... Ray allen probably takes more spot up shots than he does anything else? does that make him less of a player? the fact that gallo can do it, and will do it when he has to, is all you need to know... You have no case here isles!!! You don't even watch the damn games!!
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3/9/2009  4:57 PM
Gallo has shown he has a very nice step back dribble long distance jumper that he's been hitting w/some regularity along w/a pretty nice turnaround fadeaway midrange shot... he still needs a lotta work on his post up moves but at his age his jumpshot is so much more refined than many other young players his age right now.
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3/9/2009  5:17 PM
Dude's shooting 48% from the field, 48% from 3, and 96% from the line...with a bad back.

Shut up already.
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