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buddapaw
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2/2/2009  11:58 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:

lee played a horrible game and still managed 22 and 11 on 8-16. that's what a real player does.

A real player would have had an impact on the game.

That's as soft and meaningless a 22 and 11 as you'll ever see.
Isles again we agree, Lee was extremely LAME tonight he was very Charles Smith like.
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2/3/2009  12:06 AM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by K22:

Actually, Gasol had 31 and 14.

And No one cares.

add insult to injury?

nah I'm adding to the wackness that is the Lakers.....Pau drops 31 and Kobe drops 60....the lakers score what? 12o something and only beat the Knicks by less than 10? Nah man the Lakers are the Fakers....

Pau had to have his best game of the season just about and Kobe has basically his second best scoring performance of his career!!!

Ah man....I hope the guys are in the locker room bigging themselves up off this loss....its not a moral victory....its a loss none the less but you come on? the Lakers suck big time....career nightsfor their stars and they barely win? Come on now....

Dude, are you joking because I can't tell? 38-9 and the "Lakers suck big time"? Yeah...no.

I'm not joking at all....this is a Knicks website....I saw the game....the Knicks didn't even play their best game and still score 117!!!

Kobe had 61, Pau had 31 and you mean to tell me I'm gonna give this ****ty team credit for a 38-9 record?

Like I said, They suck!!! Kobe's night was historic!!! lets not down play that...he had to have a Historic night and Pau had to have a uncharacteristic dominating night to only beat the Knicks 126-117....

Thats in black and white for the world to see....Fuck Kobe and the Lakers!!!! How dare anyone give them credit for their two stars having career and historic nights....out classed? by basically 2 dudes? 92pts between them? come on man!!! the Lakers flat out suck....if Kobe was average? say 30pts? the Knicks woulda won....but it's all good.

The nba always has another game to play so I'm about to start the next game thread right now....
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2/3/2009  12:07 AM
Posted by VDesai:
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MVP chants for an opposing player at the garden. goes perfectly with the "offense" chant that the big screen tries to start. the garden is a different place than it was 15 years ago.

No diehards in the Garden, only tourists and kids

And saxophonists.
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2/3/2009  12:09 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by K22:

Actually, Gasol had 31 and 14.

And No one cares.

add insult to injury?

nah I'm adding to the wackness that is the Lakers.....Pau drops 31 and Kobe drops 60....the lakers score what? 12o something and only beat the Knicks by less than 10? Nah man the Lakers are the Fakers....

Pau had to have his best game of the season just about and Kobe has basically his second best scoring performance of his career!!!

Ah man....I hope the guys are in the locker room bigging themselves up off this loss....its not a moral victory....its a loss none the less but you come on? the Lakers suck big time....career nightsfor their stars and they barely win? Come on now....

Dude, are you joking because I can't tell? 38-9 and the "Lakers suck big time"? Yeah...no.

I'm not joking at all....this is a Knicks website....I saw the game....the Knicks didn't even play their best game and still score 117!!!

Kobe had 61, Pau had 31 and you mean to tell me I'm gonna give this ****ty team credit for a 38-9 record?

Like I said, They suck!!! Kobe's night was historic!!! lets not down play that...he had to have a Historic night and Pau had to have a uncharacteristic dominating night to only beat the Knicks 126-117....

Thats in black and white for the world to see....Fuck Kobe and the Lakers!!!! How dare anyone give them credit for their two stars having career and historic nights....out classed? by basically 2 dudes? 92pts between them? come on man!!! the Lakers flat out suck....if Kobe was average? say 30pts? the Knicks woulda won....but it's all good.

The nba always has another game to play so I'm about to start the next game thread right now....

Kobe didn't have to have a historic game last time and they still won. He didn't need to have many historic games in the other 36 games they have won this season. Neither did Gasol. Were the Lakers at their best tonight? No. The Lakers exploited the Knicks lack of defense. Lee got owned by Gasol on both ends and nobody could stop Kobe. If the Knicks had players on the level of Gsol and Kobe they would be doing the same and you wouldn't be complaining. The Lakers don't "suck". I mean c'mon man. If 38-9 sucks then we shouldn't even be in the league.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 02-03-2009 12:10 AM]
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2/3/2009  12:11 AM
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:

lee played a horrible game and still managed 22 and 11 on 8-16. that's what a real player does.

A real player would have had an impact on the game.

That's as soft and meaningless a 22 and 11 as you'll ever see.
Isles again we agree, Lee was extremely LAME tonight he was very Charles Smith like.



you two can't be serious.. but then again.. nevermind...
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2/3/2009  12:15 AM
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2/3/2009  12:29 AM
The worst isn't the loss, but the record.

I hope the Knicks defend Lebron well enough so he gets a chance to break the record AS a Knick.


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2/3/2009  1:07 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:

lee played a horrible game and still managed 22 and 11 on 8-16. that's what a real player does.

A real player would have had an impact on the game.

That's as soft and meaningless a 22 and 11 as you'll ever see.
Isles again we agree, Lee was extremely LAME tonight he was very Charles Smith like.



you two can't be serious.. but then again.. nevermind...

The reason Quentin Richardson got that assist that made him look like John Stockton was because DAvid Lee made some beautiful cuts tonight
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2/3/2009  1:16 AM
I was don't like to see the Knicks lose but Kobe was amazing.
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2/3/2009  4:31 AM
Posted by 93BUICK:

I was don't like to see the Knicks lose but Kobe was amazing.

Don't forget Gasol and Ariza was no slouch either. The Poster Maker took it to the basket all game long. Lakers look good tonight. I don't know what the heck Envy is talking about.

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2/3/2009  7:43 AM
not just my opinion that kobe sucks:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/paul_forrester/02/03/kobe.scores.61/index.html?bcnn=yes

Kobe's scoring outburst may be ominous sign for Lakers

Story Highlights
Kobe Bryant's "new" gameplan was to call his own number repeatedly
The Celtics proved last year that tough D can render Bryant useless
Kobe's teammates tried in their own subtle ways to remind him of that


NEW YORK -- In setting a new Madison Square Garden scoring record with 61 points Monday night, Kobe Bryant may have led his Lakers to a 126-117 victory (Recap | Box), and he may have won over a New York crowd that repeatedly erupted into chants of M-V-P, but he also re-opened a dangerous chapter of Lakers history.

With news of Andrew Bynum's 2-3 month absence (due to a torn knee ligament in his right knee) still ringing in the Lakers' ears, Bryant hatched a new gameplan that is all-too-familiar, calling his own number to the exclusion of his 11 teammates. Though breathtaking in his offensive dominance, Bryant offered a mere three assists while ignoring open teammates all evening long. "I've had games where the assists total has been high; I've had games where the points total has been high," said Bryant after the game. "It just depends on what rhythm you're in, and you try to feel that out to start the game and it kind of goes from there."

The plan worked Monday, courtesy of a Knicks team lacking any strong individual defenders, and Bryant's hot hand, which connected on 19 of his 31 attempts. But we all know how this movie ends, don't we? Didn't the Celtics, whom the Lakers face this Thursday in Boston, demonstrate in last June's Finals that with a healthy dose of defense Bryant can be rendered virtually invisible? And didn't LeBron James neutralize Bryant in L.A. two weeks ago, a game saved by the depth and size with which the Lakers have surrounded Bryant?

Until Monday, Bryant seemed to understand all of this. His 10-plus assists in four straight games not only generated a trust from his teammates -- evident in the "Kobe Nash" moniker they handed him -- but expanded the options the Lakers could use to attack.

Phil Jackson and Kobe's teammates tried in their own subtle ways to remind Bryant of that Monday, Jackson telling Kobe to "get everybody the ball, which didn't happen" after the Lakers entered halftime with only an 11-point lead (Pau Gasol did chip in 31 points on 12-for-17 shooting).

Superstars as headstrong as Bryant don't do subtle, however. Not when a 20-foot jumpers are falling like water from a faucet, and you can win games with three-fifths of the starting lineup attempting a mere 13 shots combined. Not when you can beat a team without grabbing a single rebound or making a single steal. And not when you've shown time and again that the only teammate you've ever trusted is yourself.

That won't work against the type of teams by which the Lakers are measured. And though the loss of Bynum dilutes the personnel advantage over the likes of the Spurs and Hornets, it doesn't leave the Lakers' cupboard bare. Gasol. Lamar Odom. Trevor Ariza. Sasha Vujacic. Superstars they aren't, but all are capable of providing Bryant the victories he thirsts for, provided he trusts them the way he did before Bynum's injury. There's a lesson to be found in the fact Bryant has scored almost seven points fewer in Lakers wins than in losses this season. After 12-plus seasons, we wonder if Bryant will learn it.


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2/3/2009  8:01 AM
You know something crazy happened because you find it easy to agree to a Marc Berman blog.
"61'' with no asterisk
By MARC BERMAN

My first observation from this historic 61-point night was the noise at the Garden. From the tip, the cheers were louder for Kobe Bryant's baskets than the Knicks' scores.

The first two times Bryant stepped to the free throw line, the chants resounded: "MVP.'' It seemed every transplanted Southern Californian was in the building watching Kobe's 34-point first half. The "MVP'' chants lasted across much of the night, till his exit in the final minutes when he got a standing ovation after his 20-for-20 perfecto at the free-throw line.

The love was never that way for Michael Jordan. His Airness was the enemy. The Bulls were the archrivals during the glory days. Sadly, the Knicks have been irrelevant for so many years, there is no legit rivalry with the purple and gold any longer, despite the Knicks' month-long surge. A night like this slaps you into realizing how far the Knicks are from having a marquee star.

"It was like a road game,'' Mike D'Antoni admitted.

But here's another revelation. Michael still is the more accomplished player, but Kobe is as exciting to watch and has become as beloved nationwide because of the internet age.

Jordan's "double-nickel'' Garden performance when he dropped 55 on the Knicks was a better all-around performance because all the points came during the natural course of a razor-tight game down the stretch. In fact, Jordan had the game-winning assist that night in 1995. Bryant set both Garden records during garbage time.

To a man, the Knicks appeared stunned after the game, perhaps by the fan support the Lakers got.

I've never seen this sort of adulation given an opposing player at the Garden. That, in the end, struck me the most. Not the long-range bombs, the twisting runners, the fastbreak dunks, the 61 points.

Maybe it will change in 2010 if and when LeBron James arrives. And King James has some act to follow Wednesday night. Dream Week may fast turning into Nightmare Week for the Knicks.

That was really the most troubling part. The game wasn't packed because the Knicks had been playing well and had a chance to extend that play against an elite team. No, it was because the Lakers were in town and every bandwagon fan had the night off. I hate that. Kobe may habe been spectacular, but the truth is he was wearing golden and purple, which means that, like MJ back in the days, he was the enemy. I can somehow understand the lovefest for LeBron since its more of a recruitment for updated fans, but cheering so much for Kobe when the Knicks did put up a fight?

Disgrace. This city needs a real contender soon so the real fans come out from their graves.


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2/3/2009  8:35 AM
Cablevision Kills the Soul of The Garden

The Garden killed real fandom by pandering to cheap special effects, schmaltzy promotions, too much fake PA ish and paying an announcer who sounds like a game show host on crack for each and every single made basket.

Alan Hahn has it right

damn
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2/3/2009  9:55 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Cablevision Kills the Soul of The Garden

The Garden killed real fandom by pandering to cheap special effects, schmaltzy promotions, too much fake PA ish and paying an announcer who sounds like a game show host on crack for each and every single made basket.

Alan Hahn has it right

damn

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2/3/2009  10:44 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:

lee played a horrible game and still managed 22 and 11 on 8-16. that's what a real player does.

A real player would have had an impact on the game.

That's as soft and meaningless a 22 and 11 as you'll ever see.
Isles again we agree, Lee was extremely LAME tonight he was very Charles Smith like.



you two can't be serious.. but then again.. nevermind...

What do you mean? Yes he got his numbers but he continued to make terrible passes and try to do too much at times and constantly got blocked by Pau. Everyone tears Nate a new one for his bad play why not the same for Lee.
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2/3/2009  10:59 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Cablevision Kills the Soul of The Garden

The Garden killed real fandom by pandering to cheap special effects, schmaltzy promotions, too much fake PA ish and paying an announcer who sounds like a game show host on crack for each and every single made basket.

Alan Hahn has it right

damn

Game show host on crack. That's priceless (and accurate).

Shame Alan Hahn now collects a paycheck from Cablevision now, though.
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2/3/2009  11:02 AM
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:

lee played a horrible game and still managed 22 and 11 on 8-16. that's what a real player does.

A real player would have had an impact on the game.

That's as soft and meaningless a 22 and 11 as you'll ever see.
Isles again we agree, Lee was extremely LAME tonight he was very Charles Smith like.



you two can't be serious.. but then again.. nevermind...

What do you mean? Yes he got his numbers but he continued to make terrible passes and try to do too much at times and constantly got blocked by Pau. Everyone tears Nate a new one for his bad play why not the same for Lee.

because lee's bad game didn’t include 4-17 shooting, or 6 turnovers, or no work on the boards. though he was struggling, he produced 22 points on 8-16 form the floor and 6-7 from the line, 12 boards, an assist and a steal and 2 turnovers. he's gotten to the point where a bad game still includes a good stat line. he consistently contributes, even when struggling. to me that's impressive. when chandler, nate and al have struggled, their game contributions end up being absolutely horrific.
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2/3/2009  11:13 AM
Papabear Says

David Lee had a chance to show what he could do against the big boys and got burned. No was in hell should Mike D should have allowed Kobe to break that record I don't give a damn it we had to put 4 guys on Kobe in the fourth quarter and we lost by 30 points. I thought the game was in Los Angeles the way the crowd was cheering for Kobe and the Lakers. Kobe smashed us and spanked us. D Lee's shot dept getting blocked even though he scored 22 points.
Imagin this if Kobe was a Knick could we go to the finals with this team.
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2/3/2009  11:17 AM
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

David Lee had a chance to show what he could do against the big boys and got burned. No was in hell should Mike D should have allowed Kobe to break that record I don't give a damn it we had to put 4 guys on Kobe in the fourth quarter and we lost by 30 points. I thought the game was in Los Angeles the way the crowd was cheering for Kobe and the Lakers. Kobe smashed us and spanked us. D Lee's shot dept getting blocked even though he scored 22 points.
Imagin this if Kobe was a Knick could we go to the finals with this team.


i feel differently. the record’s not that big a deal to me. what i would have loved is kobe getting his 61 . . . and losing to us. that would have been sweet as hell.
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2/3/2009  11:55 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

David Lee had a chance to show what he could do against the big boys and got burned. No was in hell should Mike D should have allowed Kobe to break that record I don't give a damn it we had to put 4 guys on Kobe in the fourth quarter and we lost by 30 points. I thought the game was in Los Angeles the way the crowd was cheering for Kobe and the Lakers. Kobe smashed us and spanked us. D Lee's shot dept getting blocked even though he scored 22 points.
Imagin this if Kobe was a Knick could we go to the finals with this team.


i feel differently. the record’s not that big a deal to me. what i would have loved is kobe getting his 61 . . . and losing to us. that would have been sweet as hell.

Yeah, but since it was evident we weren't winning the game no matter how hard we tried, it would've been nice to lose but keep him at 59.


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