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NYKMentality
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3/2/2013  7:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2013  7:10 PM
As Knick fans, who would you all rather see lose tonight, the Chicago Bulls or the Brooklyn Nets, and why?

Brooklyn: 34-25.
Chicago: 33-25.

Only 1/2 a game separates these two teams from the 5th/6th seeds.

The question is this, after tonight, would you rather see our Knicks...

A.) 2.5 games ahead of Brooklyn / 4.0 games ahead of Chicago.
or
B.) 3.0 games ahead of Chicago / 3.5 games ahead of Brooklyn.

If you selected A.) You're pulling for a Brooklyn win tonight.
If you selected B.) You're pulling for a Chicago win tonight.

The reason why I'm going for B.) and pulling for a Chicago win, is because I feel that Brooklyn's schedule is much easier than both the Knicks and Bulls during our next 10 games. While the Knicks and Bulls fight it out, the Nets do have a chance to gain lots of ground. Due to that, I'd like to see Brooklyn take a loss tonight.

Nets:
@ Chicago.
@ Charlotte.
vs. Washington.
@ Atlanta.
@ Philly.
vs. New Orleans.
vs. Atlanta.
@ Detroit.
@ Dallas.
@ Los Angeles Clippers

Bulls:
vs. Brooklyn.
@ Indy.
@ San Antonio.
vs. Utah.
@ Los Angeles Clippers.
@ Sacramento.
@ Golden State.
vs. Denver.
vs. Portland.
vs. Indy.

The difference in strength of schedule is insane moving forward during these next 10 games in regards to Chicago/Brooklyn. Brooklyn will only see 4 teams with above .500 winning records when compared to Chicago matchup up against 8 teams with above .500 records. Brooklyn will have 3 home games along with 7 away games when compared to Chicago having 5 home games along with 5 away games.

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3/2/2013  7:26 PM
I'll always want the dvision rival to lose.

The Bulls have no factor to us.

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3/2/2013  7:37 PM
knickscity wrote:I'll always want the dvision rival to lose.

The Bulls have no factor to us.

Great point. Although Chicago could become a factor (to our Knicks) if we were to finish second place of the Atlantic Division and/or if Chicago gets red hot and passes up Indy. But, you're right. All signs point to pulling for a Chicago win tonight (or should I say Brooklyn loss).

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3/2/2013  7:51 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
knickscity wrote:I'll always want the dvision rival to lose.

The Bulls have no factor to us.

Great point. Although Chicago could become a factor (to our Knicks) if we were to finish second place of the Atlantic Division and/or if Chicago gets red hot and passes up Indy. But, you're right. All signs point to pulling for a Chicago win tonight (or should I say Brooklyn loss).


If we lost the divsion it would mean BK passed us, which is why I am not pulling for them at all.
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3/2/2013  7:58 PM
3G4G wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Rockets won last night and there isn't the usual buzz here. It sounds like Beverly had a big night.

The biggest contribution for the Rockets might have been from guard Patrick Beverley, who scored 10 of his 13 points in the fourth, to go along with three steals.

Well the Rockets were playing the MIGHTY ORLANDO MAGIC....that could be part of the reason. I think the biggest news concerning the Rockets picking up Aaron Brooks off waivers. The same Brooks who ate the Lakers alive in the playoffs during their last go round Yao Ming era.

Aaron Brooks will sign with the Houston Rockets assuming he clears waivers as expected, according to sources.

Brooks will be eligible for the postseason.

Brooks signed a two-year, $6.6 million deal with the Kings last offseason.

Brooks was previously a member of the Rockets before a 2011 trade sent him to the Phoenix Suns for Goran Dragic.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

WOW, Lin's minutes are going to go way down.

I don't think so. They just needed a 3rd PG with TD gone. Just good management.

Brooks is pretty good. I think he splits minutes with Lin once he becomes adjusted to the Rockets.

Unless you think Beverley will be the 3rd string or Lin going to 3rd string then Brooks is not seeing any action anytime soon. McHale only plays 2 PGs a game. It's the starting PG and his backup all the time. When TD was there he played or Beverley played. Not all 3.

Brooks can play the 2 as well and is a better player than Lin. Just a matter of time before he takes over.

Not at 2 guard either. Lin does not get anytime there consistently anymore. Backup 2 guard has been Delfino. Harden plays a lot of minutes. Only way Brooks play is either Lin or Beverley out of the rotation. That's just the way McHale coaches.

If Brooks regains any of his 2008-2009 form there will be back court adjustments in playing time, no matter how much and fast your heart beats for Lin. There's a reason they picked him up and they've been trying to reacquire him for a while dating back to last year.

I really like your post and find them thought provoking, but if you continue on taking jabs at me I am afraid I will discontinue my conversation with you. If you disagree with me, just tell me so and enough of the childish jabs.

Now in regards to the part of your post that I want to answer. If Brooks regains his form and outright beats Lin then he should be the starter. The reason they picked him up is because they are 1 PG shy in the roster. They did not get another PG when TD was traded. They like to have 3 in the roster just in case.

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3/2/2013  8:24 PM
Damn, Nets jumped out to a 15-4 lead here in the early first.

Just say we were to finish as the two seed with Mulwaukee as the 7th seed.

Who would you all rather see face Miami during the first round as the 8th seed team.

A.) Chicago without Rose
B.) NJ with Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, Reggie Evans and Brook Lopez.
C.) Boston.

?

Which team would you say gives Miami a tougher matchup...

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3/2/2013  8:29 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Damn, Nets jumped out to a 15-4 lead here in the early first.

Just say we were to finish as the two seed with Mulwaukee as the 7th seed.

Who would you all rather see face Miami during the first round as the 8th seed team.

A.) Chicago without Rose
B.) NJ with Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, Reggie Evans and Brook Lopez.
C.) Boston.

?

Which team would you say gives Miami a tougher matchup...


None would go past 5 games.
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3/2/2013  8:33 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Brooks averaged 19 and 5 on a winning team not that long ago in Houston under Adelman. McHale has Lin splitting minutes with Beverly and Douglas. Depending on how Brooks is used he could end up sharing or overtaking Lin. I agree that Houston invested a lot in Lin. I think Morey is opportunistic and will win however he can. I think he is more interested in winning and acquiring stars as opposed to developing and grooming guys.

That's the season I was referring to. He won MIP and the Rockets finished 4 games above .500 and just barely missed the playoffs in a very competitive Western Conference.
I don't hate Aaron Brooks or anything but the Rockets already have enough problems on defense with Lin (who is a surprisingly solid defender) that might be exacerated if you stick Brooks in the starting lineup.

Just read this

The bigger point: If you're a big-market contender, you can't lose an asset for absolutely nothing. Just sell the team at that point. Why even own it? You're gonna sweat out the luxury tax every year when you're in Chicago, the third-biggest TV market in America and a city that could absolutely support two professional basketball teams?

This was Bill Simmons re: Omer Asik. Kind of could say the same about the Knicks and Lin although Asik is having a monster season.

I think Simmons reacted emotionally or was thinking in terms of the previous cba. Guys like harden and gay are getting traded because of the new cba.

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3/2/2013  9:22 PM
Nets losing but bropez is really good.
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3/2/2013  9:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2013  9:39 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Rockets won last night and there isn't the usual buzz here. It sounds like Beverly had a big night.

The biggest contribution for the Rockets might have been from guard Patrick Beverley, who scored 10 of his 13 points in the fourth, to go along with three steals.

Well the Rockets were playing the MIGHTY ORLANDO MAGIC....that could be part of the reason. I think the biggest news concerning the Rockets picking up Aaron Brooks off waivers. The same Brooks who ate the Lakers alive in the playoffs during their last go round Yao Ming era.

Aaron Brooks will sign with the Houston Rockets assuming he clears waivers as expected, according to sources.

Brooks will be eligible for the postseason.

Brooks signed a two-year, $6.6 million deal with the Kings last offseason.

Brooks was previously a member of the Rockets before a 2011 trade sent him to the Phoenix Suns for Goran Dragic.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

WOW, Lin's minutes are going to go way down.

I don't think so. They just needed a 3rd PG with TD gone. Just good management.

Brooks is pretty good. I think he splits minutes with Lin once he becomes adjusted to the Rockets.

Unless you think Beverley will be the 3rd string or Lin going to 3rd string then Brooks is not seeing any action anytime soon. McHale only plays 2 PGs a game. It's the starting PG and his backup all the time. When TD was there he played or Beverley played. Not all 3.

Brooks can play the 2 as well and is a better player than Lin. Just a matter of time before he takes over.

Not at 2 guard either. Lin does not get anytime there consistently anymore. Backup 2 guard has been Delfino. Harden plays a lot of minutes. Only way Brooks play is either Lin or Beverley out of the rotation. That's just the way McHale coaches.

If Brooks regains any of his 2008-2009 form there will be back court adjustments in playing time, no matter how much and fast your heart beats for Lin. There's a reason they picked him up and they've been trying to reacquire him for a while dating back to last year.

I really like your post and find them thought provoking, but if you continue on taking jabs at me I am afraid I will discontinue my conversation with you. If you disagree with me, just tell me so and enough of the childish jabs.

Now in regards to the part of your post that I want to answer. If Brooks regains his form and outright beats Lin then he should be the starter. The reason they picked him up is because they are 1 PG shy in the roster. They did not get another PG when TD was traded. They like to have 3 in the roster just in case.

There's a reason Douglas was given up in the trade and Morey thinks 10 steps ahead. If you think he wasn't in contact with Brooks's agent you're being naive. It's not because the Rockets want a 3 headed point guard rotation. They want Brooks because he played very well when there and if they solidify their playoff position he will be there for the experience factor. Unfortunately for hardcore Lin fans such as yourself that post with all emotional feelings will have to accept Lin and probably Delfino will have their time cut into.

Some posts aren't jabs at all they are factual. It would do you wonders if you posted more objectively when it came to Lin.....Once again....

"Homerism Is Never A Good Thing"

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3/2/2013  9:48 PM
3G4G wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Rockets won last night and there isn't the usual buzz here. It sounds like Beverly had a big night.

The biggest contribution for the Rockets might have been from guard Patrick Beverley, who scored 10 of his 13 points in the fourth, to go along with three steals.

Well the Rockets were playing the MIGHTY ORLANDO MAGIC....that could be part of the reason. I think the biggest news concerning the Rockets picking up Aaron Brooks off waivers. The same Brooks who ate the Lakers alive in the playoffs during their last go round Yao Ming era.

Aaron Brooks will sign with the Houston Rockets assuming he clears waivers as expected, according to sources.

Brooks will be eligible for the postseason.

Brooks signed a two-year, $6.6 million deal with the Kings last offseason.

Brooks was previously a member of the Rockets before a 2011 trade sent him to the Phoenix Suns for Goran Dragic.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

WOW, Lin's minutes are going to go way down.

I don't think so. They just needed a 3rd PG with TD gone. Just good management.

Brooks is pretty good. I think he splits minutes with Lin once he becomes adjusted to the Rockets.

Unless you think Beverley will be the 3rd string or Lin going to 3rd string then Brooks is not seeing any action anytime soon. McHale only plays 2 PGs a game. It's the starting PG and his backup all the time. When TD was there he played or Beverley played. Not all 3.

Brooks can play the 2 as well and is a better player than Lin. Just a matter of time before he takes over.

Not at 2 guard either. Lin does not get anytime there consistently anymore. Backup 2 guard has been Delfino. Harden plays a lot of minutes. Only way Brooks play is either Lin or Beverley out of the rotation. That's just the way McHale coaches.

If Brooks regains any of his 2008-2009 form there will be back court adjustments in playing time, no matter how much and fast your heart beats for Lin. There's a reason they picked him up and they've been trying to reacquire him for a while dating back to last year.

I really like your post and find them thought provoking, but if you continue on taking jabs at me I am afraid I will discontinue my conversation with you. If you disagree with me, just tell me so and enough of the childish jabs.

Now in regards to the part of your post that I want to answer. If Brooks regains his form and outright beats Lin then he should be the starter. The reason they picked him up is because they are 1 PG shy in the roster. They did not get another PG when TD was traded. They like to have 3 in the roster just in case.

There's a reason Douglas was given up in the trade and Morey thinks 10 steps ahead. If you think he wasn't in contact with Brooks's agent you're being naive. It's not because the Rockets want a 3 headed point guard rotation. They want Brooks because he played very well when there and if they solidify their playoff position he will be there for the experience factor. Unfortunately for hardcore Lin fans such as yourself that post with all emotional feelings will have to accept Lin and probably Delfino will have their time cut into.

Some posts aren't jabs at all they are factual. It would do you wonders if you posted more objectively when it came to Lin.....Once again....

"Homerism Is Never A Good Thing"

If morey was in touch with brooks' agent I think they could be in line for sanctions worse then Minny was with joe smith. The rockets already had Beverly. Douglas is a cap slot and fits in a trade. That was why grunwald resigned him and it is why morey traded him.

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3/2/2013  9:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2013  9:57 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
3G4G wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Rockets won last night and there isn't the usual buzz here. It sounds like Beverly had a big night.

The biggest contribution for the Rockets might have been from guard Patrick Beverley, who scored 10 of his 13 points in the fourth, to go along with three steals.

Well the Rockets were playing the MIGHTY ORLANDO MAGIC....that could be part of the reason. I think the biggest news concerning the Rockets picking up Aaron Brooks off waivers. The same Brooks who ate the Lakers alive in the playoffs during their last go round Yao Ming era.

Aaron Brooks will sign with the Houston Rockets assuming he clears waivers as expected, according to sources.

Brooks will be eligible for the postseason.

Brooks signed a two-year, $6.6 million deal with the Kings last offseason.

Brooks was previously a member of the Rockets before a 2011 trade sent him to the Phoenix Suns for Goran Dragic.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

WOW, Lin's minutes are going to go way down.

I don't think so. They just needed a 3rd PG with TD gone. Just good management.

Brooks is pretty good. I think he splits minutes with Lin once he becomes adjusted to the Rockets.

Unless you think Beverley will be the 3rd string or Lin going to 3rd string then Brooks is not seeing any action anytime soon. McHale only plays 2 PGs a game. It's the starting PG and his backup all the time. When TD was there he played or Beverley played. Not all 3.

Brooks can play the 2 as well and is a better player than Lin. Just a matter of time before he takes over.

Not at 2 guard either. Lin does not get anytime there consistently anymore. Backup 2 guard has been Delfino. Harden plays a lot of minutes. Only way Brooks play is either Lin or Beverley out of the rotation. That's just the way McHale coaches.

If Brooks regains any of his 2008-2009 form there will be back court adjustments in playing time, no matter how much and fast your heart beats for Lin. There's a reason they picked him up and they've been trying to reacquire him for a while dating back to last year.

I really like your post and find them thought provoking, but if you continue on taking jabs at me I am afraid I will discontinue my conversation with you. If you disagree with me, just tell me so and enough of the childish jabs.

Now in regards to the part of your post that I want to answer. If Brooks regains his form and outright beats Lin then he should be the starter. The reason they picked him up is because they are 1 PG shy in the roster. They did not get another PG when TD was traded. They like to have 3 in the roster just in case.

There's a reason Douglas was given up in the trade and Morey thinks 10 steps ahead. If you think he wasn't in contact with Brooks's agent you're being naive. It's not because the Rockets want a 3 headed point guard rotation. They want Brooks because he played very well when there and if they solidify their playoff position he will be there for the experience factor. Unfortunately for hardcore Lin fans such as yourself that post with all emotional feelings will have to accept Lin and probably Delfino will have their time cut into.

Some posts aren't jabs at all they are factual. It would do you wonders if you posted more objectively when it came to Lin.....Once again....

"Homerism Is Never A Good Thing"

If morey was in touch with brooks' agent I think they could be in line for sanctions worse then Minny was with joe smith. The rockets already had Beverly. Douglas is a cap slot and fits in a trade. That was why grunwald resigned him and it is why morey traded him.

Wrong....Brooks was in a situation with the Kings for a while of possibly being waived or bought out...you know much the same Raja Bell's agent is currently contacting teams to offset a buyout amount should he be by the Jazz. The same when Josh Smith's agent was contacting teams to see if they'd be willing to sign him to an extension long term, this is no different. He did not have to include Douglas if Houston wanted 3 point guards, he could have offered Royce White/Greg Smith/Delfino etc etc...

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3/2/2013  10:06 PM
Ryan Kelly just went Dirk on Miami. 36 pts, 7 Rebs with 7-9 from 3 pt
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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3/2/2013  10:11 PM
loweyecue wrote:Ryan Kelly just went Dirk on Miami. 36 pts, 7 Rebs with 7-9 from 3 pt

Yeah he was reaching Curry level

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3/2/2013  10:16 PM
3G4G wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Ryan Kelly just went Dirk on Miami. 36 pts, 7 Rebs with 7-9 from 3 pt

Yeah he was reaching Curry level

Even coach K was totally amazed.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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3/2/2013  10:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2013  10:22 PM
Damn. I understand it's only one game, but I thought Brooklyn would've been better than this.

92-77 with only 2:00 remaining here in the 4th.

Nice to see BK lose though. Just thought they've been talked up as a much stronger team...

Also, now that we're 7 1/2 games ahead of the Bucks, I'm now pulling for the Milwaukee Bucks from here on out. If we're to land a 2nd seed, it would be nice to see Milwaukee as the 7th seed. Giving us a chance to avoid the Bulls/Nets/Boston during the first round.

Milwaukee up 8 on Toronto heading into the 4th. With a (potential) win tonight, the Bucks would only be 1 1/2 games out of the 7th seed.

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3/2/2013  10:48 PM
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/52626/the-state-of-the-warriors-scored-and-be-scored-upon

Good piece highlighting what we've witnessed with our own team. A hot start followed by a slide marked by the quality of defense going down.

I guess I'm grateful that our slide has us still in 2nd instead of 6th though there's only 3 games between the Knicks and 5th place.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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3/2/2013  10:54 PM
Raptors Bucks tied with 27 sceonds left int he game
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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3/2/2013  11:51 PM
Just checking box scores, Jennings wit 19 assists tonight.
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3/3/2013  1:22 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Just checking box scores, Jennings wit 19 assists tonight.

yeah - and monta ellis had 13 the other night. What are they drinking?

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