It became obvious that Isiah had no idea what he was doing targeting the wrong kind of players through free agency and trades

DurzoBlint wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Exactly man. I love your signature by the way. I said it at the time when everyone was blaming Larry. I said it at the time that I trusted Larry over the other 2 clowns because if what he did in Philly and Detroit. The problem was Larry made the clowns look worse so they had to rush to get rid of him. If only they rebuilt the team with Larry brown players. Even if it took 4-6yrs. Unfortunately we did that years later for a much more inferior coach in Mike ****in Dantoni and wasted another decade if you count Amares 5yr contract. Still no championship in sight so many yrs later. Hollowing that we get it right after 2015

Larry was done as a coach by the time we got him. Look at what happened to him after he left. Why was/is he constantly getting fired by guys who are supposedly good friends. Not saying Isiah and Dolan weren't much bigger problems but, Larry doesn't deserve any credit for his tenure here.

No one will answer why he lost in Arbitration if he was here doing a good job? Why did he get fired from his next couple of stops? Larry was a bad choice at the time. The one who got a raw deal was Lenny Wilkins imo.

How was he done as a coach by the time we got him? He won a chip and went to the finals in the 2 years before he got here.

SupremeCommander wrote:I was a huge LB supporter at the time, but with hindsight he was part of the problem and came here to cash paychecks from Dolan and Isiah's free cash giveaways. I wouldn't be surprised if LB tried to get fired so he could keep collecting for free. He had nothing to prove after his chip and I don't remember his time here fondly as opposed to, say, Lenny

Lenny got the worst treatment of all. What was he supposed to do with that collection of bums?! And he had them playing 500 ball. ShandEisleySpoon, et al. SMDH.

Panos wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I was a huge LB supporter at the time, but with hindsight he was part of the problem and came here to cash paychecks from Dolan and Isiah's free cash giveaways. I wouldn't be surprised if LB tried to get fired so he could keep collecting for free. He had nothing to prove after his chip and I don't remember his time here fondly as opposed to, say, Lenny

Lenny got the worst treatment of all. What was he supposed to do with that collection of bums?! And he had them playing 500 ball. ShandEisleySpoon, et al. SMDH.

I've seen some legitimately good coaches over the years due to being a fan of the Giants and Yankees. Not as many but some with the Knicks and Rangers... I really thought Lenny did a masterful job coaching that team. The roster he took over was awful and pushing him out the door disguised that fact

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2004.html

gunsnewing wrote:Yea I'm still trying to figure that one out myself. Suddenly the guy forgot how to coach. I could understand if he was a player. Jason Kidd was effective 2yrs ago and done last season at 40 but a coach? Unless he had a life altering or threatening health issue which he didn't since he went on to coach the Bobcats

AND got fired a year later? After winning the chip, he has gotten fired from ever coaching stop he made. That is a track record you can't dispute. Stop focusing on the Knicks and focus on Brown for a moment....he has gotten FIRED by every team he has been with since he won his chip. There is a reason Detroit got rid of him right after. Joe must have know that he was done after he won it all.

People keep defending Brown because they are clouded by their hate of Dolan and Isiah but, there is no disputing his record since Detroit gave him the boot.

And this does not absolve Dolan or Isiah at all. Just saying that Brown was just as fuked up as the rest of the inmates who were/are running the asylum.

gunsnewing wrote:There was a lot of hope that Larry brown would teach this guys to play the right way. As we Peter found it. It was a pipe dream with that group. Funny that the garden spinner it to make Larry look like the bad guy

yea, that is what started to sour me on this franchise.. and a lot of the fanbase... larry brown I think could have gotten us back to respectability, but dolan empowered isiah and the rest was history.I liked larry brown.. then we had dantoni being sabotaged by one of teams so called best players and again, we can see the inmates running the asylum..