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ESOMKnicks
Posts: 21420 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/14/2015 Member: #6064 |
![]() jaydh wrote:Rookie wrote:The narrative that the Knicks paid to much for Mikal because it doesn't make them better than Boston is total bullcrap. There are 29 teams that aren't better than Boston. 29! I think we match up against Boston now more than ever with the trade and re-signing OG. Basketball and salary cap logic aside, the FO has given the Knicks fandom what it really wanted - a great story. Fans have fallen in love with the Nova core, they badly want more of that love, which makes Mikal an instant fan favorite and drives interest in the team to stratospheric levels. Not sure that even the arrival of Melo generated so much hype and hope. Huge success from a public relations perspective. Personally, I want to see how this Nova experiment plays out so badly, that I do not care if the picks we have given up will ever turn into something useful. I want to see Nova here and now, even at the cost of mortgaging our future. We fans have been deprived for so long that we deserve some instant gratification now. Even if we do not top Boston at the end of the day, the next two years promise to be highly entertaining, barring major injuries. I am not even sure Boston is the scariest team going forward. Without a fountain of youth for Horford and a fountain of health for KP they are really strapped for decent big guys. Jrue may start aging. Yeah, the core of Tatum, Brown and White is no chopped liver, but not an invincible monster either. I am almost more scared of Minny, with Edwards now in full Wade-mode, the Bucks if they stay healthy and make a pinpoint addition to their bench, Philly if it gets Paul George. And Miami always seems to have a trick up its sleeve. Plus some younger team like Orlando may all of a sudden blossom and become very good. |
newyorknewyork
Posts: 30101 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
![]() Clean wrote:martin wrote: Thanks Brooklyn for the full year of practice as a featured shot creator! Randle put up 25-8-5 on 48%-37%-81% after the OG trade with Brunson, Donte, OG, Randle, IHart. Bridges is a more efficient, better defending, more proven scoring/finishing Donte. The key to the success in Jan was the roles all being set in place with pieces that fit those roles perfectly. Mikal doesn't disrupt Randle's role since he isn't a guy who first and foremost thrives with the ball in his hands. Brunson & Randle will be the features and do their 2-man game. Guys like OG & Mikal wreck havoc off the ball with no play designs needed. Everything is in place for Randle to simply just the let the game come to him. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Nalod
Posts: 71048 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() Randle was really Doing a great job kicking out of doubles and seeing them earlier than anytime in his career as a knick.
He with DDV, OG and JB he had shooters around him. If no double he ate them up. The ball movement was a thing of beauty! |
Rookie
Posts: 26965 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
![]() Nalod wrote:Randle was really Doing a great job kicking out of doubles and seeing them earlier than anytime in his career as a knick. Hey, ya know what. Eldnar would be a cool handle 🤣 |
Nalod
Posts: 71048 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() Rookie wrote:Nalod wrote:Randle was really Doing a great job kicking out of doubles and seeing them earlier than anytime in his career as a knick. Go for it! |
Philc1
Posts: 28273 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
![]() Clean wrote:martin wrote: Randle can co-exist with the Villanova guys. I don’t think it’s a must we salary dump Randle. The other thing is assuming Randle comes back 100% or close to it he gives us depth because OG will get injured |
Nalod
Posts: 71048 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() I have not read any suggestion or mock that suggests Randle gets dumped to resign iHart.
Philc, This is normally where a conversation ensues. You then site where you read the “Dump” concept or if its your fabrication, outline it for discussion. Have seen it written about Deuce or Mitch traded out to clear space. Nothing about dumping Randle. |
Philc1
Posts: 28273 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
![]() Nalod wrote:I have not read any suggestion or mock that suggests Randle gets dumped to resign iHart. Good for you. Posters and people on the radio have only been talking about it nonstop since the bridges trade |
Nalod
Posts: 71048 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() Philc1 wrote:Nalod wrote:I have not read any suggestion or mock that suggests Randle gets dumped to resign iHart. You do have a way with people!
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
![]() Not looking to get in between any posters here, just chiming in...but when has dumping Randle had sound logic? It has always been (virtually) an emotional take masked in "logic." Thankfully the days of attaching first rounders for Westbrook or Wall are long gone, but there are a lot of clickbaiters and their followers using Randle and "salary dump" in the same sentence. I present this as anecdotal but I have seen it.
That said, I am not against any move that improves the team. But salary dumping a 3 time all star on a now cheap contract where you would be selling low coming back from his injury seems pretty f@%king dumb. Better be a damn good haul I say. |
foosballnick
Posts: 21529 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/17/2010 Member: #3148 |
![]() Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:Nalod wrote:I have not read any suggestion or mock that suggests Randle gets dumped to resign iHart. I've seen this type of thing proposed on schlock sites like "Heavy". As Brock plays 4D Chess, these click-bait sites and talk radio hosts attempting to lure in reactionary one dimensional thinking fans are playing checkers. |
EwingsGlass
Posts: 27455 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
![]() foosballnick wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:Nalod wrote:I have not read any suggestion or mock that suggests Randle gets dumped to resign iHart. Only realistic guy I would think of moving Randle for is Jaren Jackson Jr. I don’t think Memphis can or would, but he has a decreasing contract, cost 5m less, has DPOY chops and has a down stats year much like Mikal where it’s clear he can’t be top dog but, but would fit the scheme like a glove. Brunson Hart Bridges Anunoby JJJ is off the top of my head, but man you could run almost any lineup with Bridges, Anunoby and JJJ and could guard any top 3 You know I gonna spin wit it
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MaTT4281
Posts: 34813 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #538 USA |
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LivingLegend
Posts: 25433 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
![]() newyorknewyork wrote:Clean wrote:martin wrote: I still can’t buy Julius 100% —— when playoffs are at their most pressurized. I feel like Julius and Mitch don’t fit with rest of team we’ve put together. Hopefully I’m wrong but have my doubts. |
EwingsGlass
Posts: 27455 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
![]() LivingLegend wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Clean wrote:martin wrote: Reasonable. Every time I think of his triple doubles, I also recall him putting his head down and having the blind side steals. His effectiveness is inversely correlated to the number of times he dribbles. You know I gonna spin wit it
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Nalod
Posts: 71048 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() Triple doubles negated by a few bad head down steals?
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30101 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
![]() LivingLegend wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Clean wrote:martin wrote: Due to getting injured this playoffs which I don't know if your also including in the not buying into Julius. But none of the past rosters come close to the fit that this current team has. RJ-Randle-Mitch frontcourt didn't fit due to each other's style of play. OG-Randle-IHart fit very well as shown in Jan. While granted it wasn't the playoffs. No previous Knicks team with Randle, RJ, Mitch had that stretch of dominance. Owning teams like Minny, Denver, Philly, Miami. Having games practically secured by the end of the 3rd quarter. He's going from Grimes/IQ/RJ/Hart to Mikal/Donte/OG/Hart. OG can take the tougher defensive matchup off Randle and space the floor for him, RJ doesn't bring that to the table. Mikal is a 20ppg game threat while not losing defense or shooting, Grimes doesn't bring that to the table. The PNR game of Brunson & Randle with the spacing and pieces around it isn't close to the same circumstances for Randle previously. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
![]() Nalod wrote:Triple doubles negated by a few bad head down steals? Nah it was the “thumbs down.” Oh, and he also made a face. |
ToddTT
Posts: 30420 Alba Posts: 53 Joined: 8/30/2001 Member: #105 |
![]() KnickDanger wrote:Nalod wrote:Triple doubles negated by a few bad head down steals? I was just forgetting the face. It really hurt my feelings. Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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