DLeethal wrote:

NYStateOfMind wrote:I agree with this, but the problem is Hart only knows one speed, all-out speed. lol And, it becomes contagious. A leopard can't change his spots, but the rest of the team can play their pace which is best for winning. I f'in love Hart's style of play, very Sprewell cut your heart out and refuse to lose mentality.

DLeethal wrote:My biggest takeaway is don’t try to run with these guys. I know it’s tempting to push but it lulls you in to a game you won’t win. We need to muddy it up like we did down the stretch.

I mean Hart was super effective in his one-man fast breaks last night. So it's definitely a delicate balance. But the first half pace was way out of our league. There's no point of willingly diving in to their style of play.

JesseDark wrote:Hey, Jordan pushed off in '96 finals versus Utah. S h i t happenns they gonna have to deal with it.

That’s old and the Utah defender agreed. MJ touched him but did not push off.

ToddTT wrote:This was 1000% a foul.

I hope we’re not on the losing end of any calls like this one.

How do they review and uphold it?

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Lots of hard body contact - I agree it was a foul but good for us.

technomaster wrote:Haliburton was really hurting (back spasms). He went 2/6 from the field (2/5 from 3pt range!). He normally takes 15 shots a game.

Plus in the last 5 seconds it looks like he turned his ankle. Something to look out for.

I wanted Hali in the draft - no idea if he is hurt or just playing poorly.

The ? with Hali (for me at least) was always fear that his body wasn’t going to hold up to the grind particularly after broken wrist at Iowa St.

DLeethal wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:After Game 2 vs. Philly the refs and the two minute report were the stories of the game. Refs are incentivised to make the right calls because their pay jumps significantly the further they go in the playoffs. A lot of the calls made last night were similar to calls missed in game 2 vs. Philly. I think the refs just tried to make calls consistently throughout the game. It's on the players to adjust.

The funny thing is, the call they are all bitching about was a proper call that held up under review. The only missed call was the kick ball.

I think the kicked ball (the one hit by the Pacer defender's hand) was a make-up call; on the Brunson dribble that was poked away by Haliburton (and overturned by challenge)... Brunson should have had a chance to recover the dribble but the poked ball hit another Pacer defender's foot before rolling over the Siakim.

The challenge was based on whether Haliburton had fouled Brunson... (he didn't)... I guess the Knicks could then have challenged whether the outcome (Pacers ball by virtue of Siakim ending up with it) was valid because the ball was then kicked.

Anyway, I don't want to dwell on the past. The Pacers shouldn't have given up 39 points in the 4th quarter and should have made their shots.

I'm not at all worried about the moving pick call. That was fine. Sucky call for the Pacers, but those calls are made all the time, especially when there's such a deliberate set up for it. Only 3 players were involved in the play and it happened over the course of seconds. It wasn't a bang bang play.

In retrospect, Haliburton and Turner weren't crisp in executing the pick. Hal should have sliced over closer to Turner OR Turner should have positioned himself higher. They gave DiVo room to fight over the top of the screen.

I think Bam Adebayo gets away with those calls is because he dives toward the basket after taking his man out. Turner didn't change direction toward the basket - his motion (albeit slight) was toward the DiVo, esp with the move of his right arm.

DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:Ive come to expect better from Deuce, he'll bounce back G2.

Not gonna lie was surprised to see Siakam taking it to OG, but OG came up with some big steals late.

Overall really bad defensive game from us. But offensively Brunson, DDV and Hart were all great. Much easier defense to score against.

all the ref blaming these days is just cringe though, even Jamal Murray with the money gesture to refs, it's the easy cop out when a team loses now. spare me.

I wouldn’t say Siakam took it to him he only had 19 pts. He had a couple flurries when he caught it deep but OG did his job containing him.

Carlisle and Hali were pretty diplomatic about the refs I was impressed. They deflected and said it’s not about the refs. Turner bitched about it.

I can think of at least 1 3 that OG had to rotate off Siakim leading to open corner 3 and he also got at least 1 breakaway layup off a turn over. Only time he hurt OG when he let him get deep and he could shoot 10-15 foot fadeaway

EwingsGlass wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:I am usually on the side of giving players a break but playoff time is different. You do whatever you must to win. McBride and Precious minutes were all negative last night. It is what it is. Players will have a few months to rest after we win the championship.

100% man, these guys are not made of paper. They are gonna be OK!

Did Josh/OG/Jalen/DD look tired in crunch time last night? I mean honest question for everyone. Like this coach knows these players.

Everyone else seems like they are good with 2-3 min rest in each half. "Good" in terms of having enough energy to finish the game strong like they did last night. Josh can just play the whole damn game and maybe get 2-3 mins in the first half.

I wonder if Achiuwa should be taking some of Robinson's minutes to give the big guy some rest. He's looking like those legs could use a break. Achiuwa played Siakam pretty well this season and would free OG up a little bit. Turner plays a soft outside in Center and I am not nearly as worried about his 3ball as the Aarons.

This is all too obvious to me EwingsGlass - I agree.

DLeethal wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:I am usually on the side of giving players a break but playoff time is different. You do whatever you must to win. McBride and Precious minutes were all negative last night. It is what it is. Players will have a few months to rest after we win the championship.

100% man, these guys are not made of paper. They are gonna be OK!

Did Josh/OG/Jalen/DD look tired in crunch time last night? I mean honest question for everyone. Like this coach knows these players.

Everyone else seems like they are good with 2-3 min rest in each half. "Good" in terms of having enough energy to finish the game strong like they did last night. Josh can just play the whole damn game and maybe get 2-3 mins in the first half.

I wonder if Achiuwa should be taking some of Robinson's minutes to give the big guy some rest. He's looking like those legs could use a break. Achiuwa played Siakam pretty well this season and would free OG up a little bit. Turner plays a soft outside in Center and I am not nearly as worried about his 3ball as the Aarons.

I think he should, but Mitch usually comes through whenever I start to doubt him. But yes he's probably in the worst shape of everyone on the team and least equipped to run up and down at a frenetic pace. Precious makes more sense in this series but Thibs probably sticks with Mitch.

Yep - Thibs probably sticks with Mitch. I could see 3 or 4 asst. coaches suggesting Precious over Mitch and Thibs putting fingers in both ears muddering nanananah