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[Game Thread 5/8/23] 2nd Round - Game 4 vs Heat - 7:30 TNT
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NardDogNation
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5/8/2023  10:07 PM
Philc1 wrote:
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

We win game 5 on Wednesday it’s not impossible we win game 6. We were in tonight’s game. If it bleeds we can kill it

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5/8/2023  10:10 PM
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent, Martin and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

Lol

Miami won’t get rattled anymore. They did in Game 2. Since then, even their mediocre players are buying in so much that they can’t simply be overcome by NY anymore. The Knicks have no strategy to stop them.

This series ended tonight.

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5/8/2023  10:11 PM
Philc1 wrote:
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

We win game 5 on Wednesday it’s not impossible we win game 6. We were in tonight’s game. If it bleeds we can kill it

It’s over

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5/8/2023  10:11 PM
We got it to 2 and 3 in the third and they knocked down a 3 each time. We got momentum on offense and didnt do anything to the lead. Then kn the 4th we made stops on defense and then couldn't get rebounds.

The phantom calls Lowry and Butler got were wild.
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5/8/2023  10:12 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
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WP76 wrote:
VDesai wrote:Over and over again we cant get a rebound

These five shot possessions by Miami are killing us.

Yeah, those and… Their 3 pointers and… Their defense and… Their rebounding and… their coaching and…

We are just being thoroughly outplayed. Honestly, the difference in this series is coaching.


Miami is a championship team. Didn't they win one with this crew pretty much

Oh no, they are not. Not at all. But their coach can definitely make them play like one.

They were in the Finals 3 years ago with the same crew

So?

It’s 2023. They aren’t a championship team. But Spo has them believing they are and they are playing like such at the moment. This is all coaching.

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5/8/2023  10:12 PM
This is a confidence issue. The Heat have more than their talent and the Knicks look lost.
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5/8/2023  10:13 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
WP76 wrote:Sixth on Randle with an offensive foul...we're done.

Might be a blessing.

Only if that gets him traded.

We wont get better with Rsndle as the second option.

Randle is good in that regular season game facing the pistons at home in January

He's a three quarter star, best as a third or fourth option. Depending on the roster. Almost 30, not going to change.

Time to trade Randle is now. Throw in IQ before we give him a stupid contract extension

Disagree on IQ, this has been the clip he has progressed since his rookie year. Confident he will figure things out.

Was a good wake up call for IQ about playoff bball, when you play an important role. He'll learn

IQ looked bad in both playoff series. We have to either extend him or trade him this offseason or he’s a free agent after next season

If we can get a team friendly deal, I hope we extend IQ. Playoff performance should help keep his asking price from getting out of hand.

I don’t think IQ is worth a $95 million extension
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5/8/2023  10:13 PM
It felt like we may have had a scouting report for Jimmy but every other Heat player has been allowed to play to their strengths all series.

Lowry, Vincent both love to shoot going to their left - we’ve let them all series.
Robinson, Struss love to go right - we’ve let them all series.
Bam allowed to catch a thousand passes inside the foul line in the key.

Just don’t see any plan other than iso on offense and crappy rotations defensively.

Obi comes in early - tosses up air ball, leaves Robinson open for 3 and leaks out early while his guy grabs o-board and scores.
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5/8/2023  10:14 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

We win game 5 on Wednesday it’s not impossible we win game 6. We were in tonight’s game. If it bleeds we can kill it

It’s over

At least I got the Yankees oh wait
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5/8/2023  10:15 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

We win game 5 on Wednesday it’s not impossible we win game 6. We were in tonight’s game. If it bleeds we can kill it

+1


I don't think a blowout is going to get in their heads. It might help us but i don't that would rattle the HEat, at least not their key guys. We need to take this one possession at a time and grind it out. We were very sloppy controlling the glass tonight and had a couple of brain farts to boot.

Is it unsporting to say i want to punch Spolestra in the face. His team is the beneficiary of so many calls and then he does these crazy theatrics on the sidelines. Our guys get teed up for less than that

all that aside, the officiating improved (far from perfect) but better, and i thought the TNT announcers were good and fair.

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5/8/2023  10:16 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent, Martin and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

Lol

Miami won’t get rattled anymore. They did in Game 2. Since then, even their mediocre players are buying in so much that they can’t simply be overcome by NY anymore. The Knicks have no strategy to stop them.

This series ended tonight.

Yeah, I think when they saw Butler go off and become playoff Jimmy against the Bucks, it swung their belief that he could bring them far. Makes them work for every rebound, run around screens and do the extra things to win. Meanwhile, our top guy can't get his head and his game straight.
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5/8/2023  10:16 PM
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
WP76 wrote:Sixth on Randle with an offensive foul...we're done.

Might be a blessing.

Only if that gets him traded.

We wont get better with Rsndle as the second option.

Randle is good in that regular season game facing the pistons at home in January

He's a three quarter star, best as a third or fourth option. Depending on the roster. Almost 30, not going to change.

Time to trade Randle is now. Throw in IQ before we give him a stupid contract extension

Disagree on IQ, this has been the clip he has progressed since his rookie year. Confident he will figure things out.

Was a good wake up call for IQ about playoff bball, when you play an important role. He'll learn

IQ looked bad in both playoff series. We have to either extend him or trade him this offseason or he’s a free agent after next season

If we can get a team friendly deal, I hope we extend IQ. Playoff performance should help keep his asking price from getting out of hand.

I don’t think IQ is worth a $95 million extension

Yea, he played so bad once the pressure was on that he severly lowered the amount I will be OK extending him. The funny thing is he always talking about he wants to eventually start. He not even close to be good off the bench when the games really count.
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5/8/2023  10:16 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
WP76 wrote:Sixth on Randle with an offensive foul...we're done.

Might be a blessing.

Only if that gets him traded.

We wont get better with Rsndle as the second option.

No we won’t - fools gold and I fell for it. He’s dumb and dumber in 1 body.

See if Cuban is willing to do Randle for Kyrie straight up. I hate Kyrie but I’m done with Randle after these playoffs

You'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face. I do wonder if we could get Mikal Bridges though. Maybe Randle and picks?

Pipe dream - we aren’t getting mikal -meh may be the least attainable given it’s Brooklyn.
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5/8/2023  10:17 PM
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
WP76 wrote:Sixth on Randle with an offensive foul...we're done.

Might be a blessing.

Only if that gets him traded.

We wont get better with Rsndle as the second option.

Randle is good in that regular season game facing the pistons at home in January

He's a three quarter star, best as a third or fourth option. Depending on the roster. Almost 30, not going to change.

Time to trade Randle is now. Throw in IQ before we give him a stupid contract extension

Disagree on IQ, this has been the clip he has progressed since his rookie year. Confident he will figure things out.

Was a good wake up call for IQ about playoff bball, when you play an important role. He'll learn

IQ looked bad in both playoff series. We have to either extend him or trade him this offseason or he’s a free agent after next season

If we can get a team friendly deal, I hope we extend IQ. Playoff performance should help keep his asking price from getting out of hand.

I don’t think IQ is worth a $95 million extension

Id want to hear what they're offering IQ. Im pretty sure they will try to keep him in NY. Also what depends on what other moves the FO is making.
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5/8/2023  10:17 PM
We need shooters, so many open 3s that should be easy shots are bricked . That’s the game right there they hit their 3’s and we didn’t.
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5/8/2023  10:17 PM
Philc1 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

We win game 5 on Wednesday it’s not impossible we win game 6. We were in tonight’s game. If it bleeds we can kill it

It’s over

At least I got the Yankees oh wait

I know. NY sports in a bad spot. But Knicks were still a highlight. I just hope we can trade Randle because he isn’t part of the solution.

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5/8/2023  10:17 PM
LivingLegend wrote:It felt like we may have had a scouting report for Jimmy but every other Heat player has been allowed to play to their strengths all series.

Lowry, Vincent both love to shoot going to their left - we’ve let them all series.
Robinson, Struss love to go right - we’ve let them all series.
Bam allowed to catch a thousand passes inside the foul line in the key.

Just don’t see any plan other than iso on offense and crappy rotations defensively.

Obi comes in early - tosses up air ball, leaves Robinson open for 3 and leaks out early while his guy grabs o-board and scores.

i noticed this. Obi had like 5 or 6 minutes. He's had a lot of air balls and brain farts.

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5/8/2023  10:18 PM
DuckVader wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
DuckVader wrote:The only way the Knicks have a chance is if they win big in NY and get into the Heat's heads; Butler can score 50, but if the Knicks can't stop Lowry, Vincent, Martin and Strus in the way that the heat have ripped the balls from IQ, Obi and Randle, then Game 5 is just a speedbump.

Lol

Miami won’t get rattled anymore. They did in Game 2. Since then, even their mediocre players are buying in so much that they can’t simply be overcome by NY anymore. The Knicks have no strategy to stop them.

This series ended tonight.

Yeah, I think when they saw Butler go off and become playoff Jimmy against the Bucks, it swung their belief that he could bring them far. Makes them work for every rebound, run around screens and do the extra things to win. Meanwhile, our top guy can't get his head and his game straight.

Totally

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5/8/2023  10:19 PM
2nd quarter of both games is where we lost it. Our bench is getting clobbered by theirs and the bench was the strength of our team
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5/8/2023  10:19 PM
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
WP76 wrote:Sixth on Randle with an offensive foul...we're done.

Might be a blessing.

Only if that gets him traded.

We wont get better with Rsndle as the second option.

No we won’t - fools gold and I fell for it. He’s dumb and dumber in 1 body.

See if Cuban is willing to do Randle for Kyrie straight up. I hate Kyrie but I’m done with Randle after these playoffs

Hell no to Kyrie, destroyer of teams.

We are going nowhere with randle

Wonder if Wolves would give us K-Anderson and J-McDaniels for Jules — 2 solid players…1 smart and 1 with some upside.
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