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Knicks1969
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11/27/2015  9:56 PM
Fisher is terrible
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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Clean
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11/27/2015  9:56 PM
nixluva wrote:The KP foul trouble really killed us. Plus the Heat D on MELO has been tough. Why couldn't we try another way to get MELO the ball, like off screens n curls. They have been too predictable IMO. Every time down we do the same things. Gotta change up how we attack. That's on Fish to a certain degree.

been saying this all year. Melo could be taking the same shots DWill was taking when he was playing well at the beginning of the year. Instead all we do is force it to him in the post.
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11/27/2015  9:56 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Waited too long to put Lopez back in. Whats the point in pulling Lopez early for a couple of fouls when he doesnt play down the stretch?
lopez sucked tonight

Just on offense, he still comtributes defensively

not tonight. Also lets be honest porzingis makes him look good because prozingis is terrific

You sound like an 8 year old.

no need for insults man. Just talk bball. I simply said lopez has been bad tonight

Here is one more, if you want to have a bball discussion with me dont bring that weak **** like you just posted above.
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11/27/2015  9:56 PM
Knicks offense continually doesn't get a shot til like 5-6 seconds remain on the shot clock. They take waaaaaay too long to find the shots they want. And frankly it often seems like they settle for a shot they don't want rather than get a shot they do.

I know the Heat's defense is very good, but this is a problem they've had against other teams, too.

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11/27/2015  9:57 PM
Funny but I really didn't think we'd struggle to score like this !!! It's been REALLY BAD!
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11/27/2015  9:58 PM
crzymdups wrote:
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WP76 wrote:Since Melo has obviously mailed this in, why doesn't Fisher just rest him for the rest of the game? As good as he can be, when he shuts down like this, it just drives me crazy--not what your team leader is supposed to do.

You think Melo has chosen on purpose to be scoreless since the 1Q?

I do think he's chosen to not go all out in other ways since his shot is obviously off tonight.

huh?

When you're not hitting your shots, you play tough defense, involve your teammates and play smart basketball. That's what team leaders are supposed to do but an area in which Carmelo has been deficient for significant stretches of his career, including tonight.
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11/27/2015  9:59 PM
crzymdups wrote:Knicks 3-12 for 3. They Reaaaaalllllyyyyyy need to hit the 3 if they want to win.

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Knicks1969
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11/27/2015  9:59 PM
Twice he had both KO AND SERAPHIN on the floor together; and TH blunder of playing more then 11. This dude should have never been hired
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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11/27/2015  9:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Waited too long to put Lopez back in. Whats the point in pulling Lopez early for a couple of fouls when he doesnt play down the stretch?
lopez sucked tonight

Just on offense, he still comtributes defensively

not tonight. Also lets be honest porzingis makes him look good because prozingis is terrific

You sound like an 8 year old.

no need for insults man. Just talk bball. I simply said lopez has been bad tonight

Here is one more, if you want to have a bball discussion with me dont bring that weak **** like you just posted above.

now you are acting like a 8 year old. Bad loss tonight
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11/27/2015  10:01 PM
Wow. That sucked. I hate the heat. A split would have been nice.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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11/27/2015  10:01 PM
Clean wrote:
nixluva wrote:The KP foul trouble really killed us. Plus the Heat D on MELO has been tough. Why couldn't we try another way to get MELO the ball, like off screens n curls. They have been too predictable IMO. Every time down we do the same things. Gotta change up how we attack. That's on Fish to a certain degree.

been saying this all year. Melo could be taking the same shots DWill was taking when he was playing well at the beginning of the year. Instead all we do is force it to him in the post.

The way they're playing actually makes it easier for a great D like the Heat! We just go into this easy to guard post up thing when we don't have to. They need to loosen up like they were early in the year. They have forgotten to just PLAY BALL early in the shot clock and ONLY DO THE SLOW TRIANGLE STUFF if there's nothing else!!! Fish has to fix this. This is a coaching thing!
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11/27/2015  10:01 PM
Melo showed bad effort tonight, gallo still in a funk, lopez looked hungover. The heat are a tough team even though i hate them so much
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11/27/2015  10:01 PM
crzymdups wrote:Knicks offense continually doesn't get a shot til like 5-6 seconds remain on the shot clock. They take waaaaaay too long to find the shots they want. And frankly it often seems like they settle for a shot they don't want rather than get a shot they do.

I know the Heat's defense is very good, but this is a problem they've had against other teams, too.

Exactly what happens when you have a slow PG like Calderon.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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11/27/2015  10:02 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Wow. That sucked. I hate the heat. A split would have been nice.

The Heat are just much better than us right now. They have their eyes on the Cavs this year, we're just a gnat for them to swat away.

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11/27/2015  10:02 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Knicks offense continually doesn't get a shot til like 5-6 seconds remain on the shot clock. They take waaaaaay too long to find the shots they want. And frankly it often seems like they settle for a shot they don't want rather than get a shot they do.

I know the Heat's defense is very good, but this is a problem they've had against other teams, too.

Exactly what happens when you have a slow PG like Calderon.

Happens with Grant, too.

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11/27/2015  10:03 PM
nixluva wrote:
Clean wrote:
nixluva wrote:The KP foul trouble really killed us. Plus the Heat D on MELO has been tough. Why couldn't we try another way to get MELO the ball, like off screens n curls. They have been too predictable IMO. Every time down we do the same things. Gotta change up how we attack. That's on Fish to a certain degree.

been saying this all year. Melo could be taking the same shots DWill was taking when he was playing well at the beginning of the year. Instead all we do is force it to him in the post.

The way they're playing actually makes it easier for a great D like the Heat! We just go into this easy to guard post up thing when we don't have to. They need to loosen up like they were early in the year. They have forgotten to just PLAY BALL early in the shot clock and ONLY DO THE SLOW TRIANGLE STUFF if there's nothing else!!! Fish has to fix this. This is a coaching thing!

this is why i said fisher needed a few years as a assistant, he still doesnt seem ready for being a head coach yet
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11/27/2015  10:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/27/2015  10:05 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Waited too long to put Lopez back in. Whats the point in pulling Lopez early for a couple of fouls when he doesnt play down the stretch?
lopez sucked tonight

Just on offense, he still comtributes defensively

not tonight. Also lets be honest porzingis makes him look good because prozingis is terrific

You sound like an 8 year old.

no need for insults man. Just talk bball. I simply said lopez has been bad tonight

Here is one more, if you want to have a bball discussion with me dont bring that weak **** like you just posted above.

now you are acting like a 8 year old. Bad loss tonight

There is a reason you frequently get into arguments with posters in game threads. Drop the passive aggressive freak show Irish and you'll find it happens a lot less. Thats all Im gonna say.
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11/27/2015  10:04 PM
Once again, fisher plays 8 bench players in the 2nd half, and we shoot 20% an embarrassing 29 points
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11/27/2015  10:05 PM
the knicks were in good shape until afflalo rotated back in the first time with 6 minutes left in the second q. then kp6 got called for a terrible foul on an alleged moving screen with 3:15 left in the 2nd quarter. the knicks slowly imploded from that point forward.

afflalo was the catalyst for the knicks unraveling and then a TERRIBLE call on kp6 by the refs on a moving pick call.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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