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3G4G
Posts: 23485 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2012 Member: #4333 |
4/12/2013 1:40 AM
LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak?
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Red1976
Posts: 20206 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/8/2013 Member: #4510 |
4/12/2013 5:17 AM
mad that we lost the game against the Bulls, even more because it is the Bulls but the Knicks played hard and very shorthanded (more so than the Bulls if some will say that this is an excuse) and just fall short, so i can be proud of the team, can't win every time ... getting healthy is the keyword for a nice playoffs run ...
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
4/12/2013 8:10 AM
Whats goin on with Felton?
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
4/12/2013 8:28 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him. i did not see the game except for two minutes but this statement is sheer nonsense. judging from the box score i can see that the bulls' defense was such that it forced a chuckage and suckage from anthony and smith. felton took too many shots too. the main takeaway from the advanced statistics is that the bulls succeeded in stifling the knicks' ball movement. you can tell from the ratio of usage to assist rate. melo's was a ridiculous reversion to "bad melo" where the ratio is 39.3:8.8 which reduces to 4.47:1 and that's with an abominable 46.9TS%. this means he did not move the ball and was forced into taking too many shots, bad shots. you can't win ballgames against good defenses unless you stay disciplined and keep the ball moving ahead of the defenders. tkf mentioned that the thing that concerns him most about the knicks is that the celtics have one thing the knicks don't: POISE. at this point it is folly to claim that "the knicks are heavily reliant on melo" since it is clear that he actually brings this situation on himself. bryant has manifested the same tendencies against good defenses plenty of times. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38419 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
4/12/2013 8:33 AM
Watched a good amount of the game and this is my impression. Chicago is a bad matchup for the Knicks. They have too many long very good defenders that affect Melo. Next time they play, ball movement needs to happen. The second Melo gets double teamed he needs to swing it out and the open man needs to hit that shot. Felton also needs to play under control. He does not do well when he pushes.
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
4/12/2013 9:28 AM
dk7th wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him. LOL. Why bother posting? Dude you never post after a win. Coincidence? I think not. Smith and Melo played like trash and the game was STILL winnable. Spare me your "analysis". NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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Uptown
Posts: 31325 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
4/12/2013 9:38 AM
dk7th wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him. Dude, you didnt watch the game (which seems like the norm for you as you only seem to watch the Numbers Matrix style) so why bother with an analysis? |
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TeamBall
Posts: 24343 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/13/2012 Member: #4386 |
4/12/2013 9:39 AM
dk7th wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him. Whether Melo brought the situation upon himself or not, that doesnt change the fact that they are still reliant on him. Knicksfan: Hypocrite league that fines players after the game for flopping but in the game and with obvious flopping they call the fouls.
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Uptown
Posts: 31325 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
4/12/2013 9:40 AM
NYDiva wrote:I want to know how OKC would do if they lost Ibaka, Perkins, and every single member of their frontline. Good point. Our lack of height allowed Butler to have a career night since 6'4 Kidd was trying to guard him in the post... |
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38419 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
4/12/2013 10:01 AM
Uptown wrote:NYDiva wrote:I want to know how OKC would do if they lost Ibaka, Perkins, and every single member of their frontline. This is all on Grunny. |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
4/12/2013 10:17 AM
We have height the problem is they are all injured. Good young players dont come cheap. No guarantee that going with the young dleagye big will be better than going with the savy vets. Heck they might not even see playing time
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
4/12/2013 10:35 AM
3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak? ROFL!!! Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
4/12/2013 10:42 AM LAST EDITED: 4/12/2013 10:44 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
4/12/2013 10:43 AM
AnubisADL wrote:dk7th wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him. i watched the game sunday-- one that mattered to me. posted during the game thread and afterwards. i have watched most of the games and have posted win or lose. because i have watched most of the games i know the team and understand its strengths and weaknesses. i dont need to see games at this point to understand what happened. my statistical analysis backs up what the eyes see-- did they not? knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42864 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
4/12/2013 10:52 AM
tkf wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls. You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the **** up. |
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3G4G
Posts: 23485 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2012 Member: #4333 |
4/12/2013 11:37 AM
tkf wrote:3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak?
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
4/12/2013 11:42 AM LAST EDITED: 4/12/2013 11:44 AM
GustavBahler wrote:tkf wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls. You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike..... Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
4/12/2013 11:44 AM
3G4G wrote:tkf wrote:3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak? dude that was hilarious.... Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
4/12/2013 11:48 AM
tkf wrote:3G4G wrote:tkf wrote:3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak? Lol where were you jokers during the 13 game win streak! |
