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Game Thread: NY Knicks vs. OKC Thunder(ET), March 7 2013 (TNT): Please Coach NO! J.White & Kurt Thomas start tonight!
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3/7/2013  11:19 PM
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

Pretty sure whatever was run on offense by the celts it isn't called by doc. What place are the celtics in again?

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3/7/2013  11:19 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.

Yea do they work on setting screens in practice? Don't think they do anything offensively in practice. Woodson lets his players play on offense. Free lance. And that is bad news when the ball is in JR's hands. He lacks basketball IQ. Should've went to UNC

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3/7/2013  11:20 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.


Woodson said the plan was to go to JR but he wanted the other guys to move around more
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3/7/2013  11:23 PM
Terrible ****ing play now see why people get prirsed


9 seconds and thats the play???

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3/7/2013  11:29 PM
TeamBall wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.


Woodson said the plan was to go to JR but he wanted the other guys to move around more

"If only there was a way I could have explicitly explained what I wanted them to do. Preferably in a 30 second interval, so the game doesn't get interrupted too much....Oh well. JR, catch the ball, and do **** with it"

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3/7/2013  11:31 PM
Maybe we'll play the Pistons again and blow a double digit lead and win
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3/7/2013  11:32 PM
With 7 secs left you should be able to run a play. You can always get an ISO jumpshot. I'd prefer to see some player movement 1st and then if you have nothing left go with the ISO play.
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3/7/2013  11:34 PM
Set a screen like OKC did for Durant. Problem is Tyson and Amare don't know how to set a good screen. Kmart does but fouled out. Camby never played
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3/7/2013  11:37 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Maybe we'll play the Pistons again and blow a double digit lead and win

Too bad we don't get teams like that more often the rest of the season.

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3/7/2013  11:44 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.

Yea do they work on setting screens in practice? Don't think they do anything offensively in practice. Woodson lets his players play on offense. Free lance. And that is bad news when the ball is in JR's hands. He lacks basketball IQ. Should've went to UNC

You can tell they don't really have good sets just watch how often both STAT and Tyson are bunched up together and there seems to be no rhyme or reason to the player movement. How often do you say "wow that was a good play"?

Woody isn't really using all of STAT's talent. He need more plays from the elbow where he can run PnR or take the elbow jumper or off the PnR cut to the basket if the PG gets into the paint. There are so many options that come from that. Then you also have STAT in the post or going baseline cut. The point is just USE HIM.

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3/7/2013  11:48 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Set a screen like OKC did for Durant. Problem is Tyson and Amare don't know how to set a good screen. Kmart does but fouled out. Camby never played

We got rid of our best screener in Jared. They should've looked to try and get him back given how he helped to get Novack shots.

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3/7/2013  11:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/7/2013  11:48 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.

Not trying to compare myself to an NBA coach, but I coach Middle and some Highschool basketball and I can tell you, there are many times when I'll draw up a play during a timeout (A play we've practiced numerous times) and the players will run something totally different in the heat of the moment. I'm pretty sure that play didn't run exactly the way Woodson drew it up....

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3/7/2013  11:54 PM
Uptown wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.

Not trying to compare myself to an NBA coach, but I coach Middle and some Highschool basketball and I can tell you, there are many times when I'll draw up a play during a timeout (A play we've practiced numerous times) and the players will run something totally different in the heat of the moment. I'm pretty sure that play didn't run exactly the way Woodson drew it up....

That shouldn't happen with an NBA team with some of the oldest players in the league. They should know how to execute. This is coming the close of the season and by now this team shouldn't be having problems executing plays. From what I could see it was a poorly designed play from the get go.

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3/7/2013  11:56 PM
I don't think the last play was horrible. JR was one on one with the whole interior wide open. Trusting JR to make the right decision is a poor choice. This game is a W with Melo.
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3/7/2013  11:59 PM
I think with Melo we get blown out. You will not beat OKC going 1 on 5. Maybe squeak by Detroit but not OKC
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3/8/2013  12:01 AM
Uptown wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.

Not trying to compare myself to an NBA coach, but I coach Middle and some Highschool basketball and I can tell you, there are many times when I'll draw up a play during a timeout (A play we've practiced numerous times) and the players will run something totally different in the heat of the moment. I'm pretty sure that play didn't run exactly the way Woodson drew it up....

Exactly I think the play was to get it to Felton or Kidd up top and Jr was to come off a screen but instead it went to JR on the sideline. How many players like that spot of the floor? Durant, Melo, Kobe, and Peirce are the only once who wouldn't mind posting and facing on that spot of the floor.

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3/8/2013  12:02 AM
nixluva wrote:
Uptown wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.

Not trying to compare myself to an NBA coach, but I coach Middle and some Highschool basketball and I can tell you, there are many times when I'll draw up a play during a timeout (A play we've practiced numerous times) and the players will run something totally different in the heat of the moment. I'm pretty sure that play didn't run exactly the way Woodson drew it up....

That shouldn't happen with an NBA team with some of the oldest players in the league. They should know how to execute. This is coming the close of the season and by now this team shouldn't be having problems executing plays. From what I could see it was a poorly designed play from the get go.

Right. Couldn't get the ball in bound. Which happens all the time leading to a rushed last second play. Gonna run these imbound plays in practice. Too predictable. Coach and players panic. Too afraid too take it to the hole and turn the ball over. So they choose the predictable route. iso jump shot off balance. How many times have we seen Melo take an off balance buzzer shot?

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3/8/2013  12:02 AM
gunsnewing wrote:I think with Melo we get blown out. You will not beat OKC going 1 on 5. Maybe squeak by Detroit but not OKC

Whoa. I thought you were better than that.

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3/8/2013  12:03 AM
gunsnewing wrote:I think with Melo we get blown out. You will not beat OKC going 1 on 5. Maybe squeak by Detroit but not OKC

Melo should just sit out the rest of the season right?

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3/8/2013  12:03 AM
TeamBall wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's just no misdirection with Woody. It's all obvious stuff. We have so many options on the floor and if you make the defense think you're going for the obvious ISO play but in reality you have another secondary play going. You think Popovich or Doc Rivers wouldn't have a better play drawn up to close the game?

To me that didn't look like the play called but a secondary release off the in bounds. I don't have a dvr so I may be wrong. It look like they needed better screens set.


Woodson said the plan was to go to JR but he wanted the other guys to move around more

YEP
the plan go to JR Predictable WHOLE HOUSE & OKC knew it

you think with 8sec Woody can mix it up on play calling ? by getting a guard either Felton Or JR get the ball penetrate to hoop
and find another thru a pass slashing to the hoops

But NOPE
it had to be another freaking ISO play again
Can't stand woodson, I supported him last yr and early this yr success but he isnt going to be the coach
to improve club and make them grow going forward.

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Game Thread: NY Knicks vs. OKC Thunder(ET), March 7 2013 (TNT): Please Coach NO! J.White & Kurt Thomas start tonight!

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