Mitch for $3 million was not happening

We got Childs right?

In 96 again we couldn't offer Shaq the max..... And we had Ewing!!

umynot wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

umynot wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

umynot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:for everyone who thinks lebron is definitely staying in cleveland - ask yourself this - why is the cleveland front office trying so desperately to get a sidekick for lebron? we've heard amar'e. we've heard jamison. troy murhphy. now corey maggette. that SMACKS of desperation.

if they're so comfortable with the idea that of course lebron will stay, why are they trying so hard to tinker with a 43-11 team?

why?

because they are nervous about july 1. because they know it's no done deal that he stays. and unless they can get him a major sidekick at the deadline, they don't have the ability to get him one this summer.

Anyone who has ever been to both NY and Cleveland understands why Cleveland SHOULD worry!!

NY has the WHOLE WORLD at your fingertips!!.... Anything you wanna see or do you can!!
It's the Mecca of basketball!!

Cleveland has a Mall.......... And the Cavaliers! Nothing Else!!!

If NY signs Lebron or Wade in the off-season that would be their first top tier FA since I followed the Knicks. I go back a couple of decades. I know the Yankees get guys but I also got the impression that it had more about being the Yankees. I just don't see NBA FAs with that same respect of the Knicks. I could be wrong.

Knicks have never had CAP SPACE!! EVER!!

Knicks had cap space in the past. Like I said my history goes beyond 96.

Ewing was drafted in 85 and we never had cap space to sign a top FA
ever!!

I been watching since Bernard King !!! BTW!!

umynot wrote:96 we didn;t have Cap space

thats how houston got here... FA in 96

CrushAlot wrote:

umynot wrote:96 we didn;t have Cap space

In 96-97 Ewing was a top ten player. He averaged just under 23 points, 11 boards and 2+ blocks a game. The Knicks weren't trying to get Shaq.

Ewing was coming off not feeling appreciated by the Knicks particularly after Don Nelson fiasco. If I remember correctly they were talking about how to acquire Howard, Shaq or Zo to replace an aging big man in Ewing. They decided to go in another direction because they were should if they could even lure those guys there. Papers were filled with whether they should keep Ewing or dump him polls. They still had options to get either Zo or Howard but it appeared that neither was interested in playing in NY. So they went after Houston whose desire was to play with Ewing.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6124105/

sidsanders wrote:HAHAHAHAHHA

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6124105/

Oh my goodness. That's too funny.

Pharzeone wrote:Sports Of The Times;Will Ewing Help Knicks Get Howard?
By DAVE ANDERSON
Published: May 23, 1996

IN announcing 34-year-old Jeff Van Gundy's return as coach, the Knicks also indicated that Patrick Ewing would return.

"We want Patrick here for his career," Dave Checketts, the president of Madison Square Garden, said yesterday during Van Gundy's coronation with a $2 million, two-year contract. "We're committed to him for the long run."

So forget about Ewing's being traded and forget about the Knicks' pursuing another center, such as Shaquille O'Neal or Dikembe Mutombo, when the National Basketball Association's free-agent auction begins on July 1.

But with the Knicks more than $9 million under the salary cap, maybe their commitment to Ewing, who didn't want to be traded, will help sign the free agent they quietly covet: Juwan Howard, the 23-year-old forward who just finished his second season with the Washington Bullets.

The Ewing-Howard connection is David Falk, the agent for both Ewing and Howard as well as for Michael Jordan, Alonzo Mourning and Kenny Anderson.

To some pro basketball people, Falk is the real N.B.A. commissioner, not David Stern. With so many of the best players among his clients, he has the power to steer certain players to certain teams in order to help certain clients' careers.

Now that the Knicks are apparently willing to provide Ewing with a new multiyear contract beyond his $3 million salary next season, Falk could be more amenable to a Knick offer to Howard, a solid citizen as well as a solid player.

Falk's influence has been suspect before. When Xavier McDaniel signed with the Celtics after a contract impasse with the Knicks, skeptics whispered that Jordan had asked Falk to relocate McDaniel, who had played Jordan tough in the 1992 playoffs.

"That's not true," a member of the Knick hierarchy said.

But such a possibility exists. If an agent can steer a client away from a team, he can also steer a client to a team. And if the Knicks negotiate a new zillion-dollar contract with Ewing (and Falk), they could also negotiate a contract with Howard (and Falk).

Because of tampering rules, teams are not allowed to discuss free agents publicly until July 1, but Howard, a 6-foot-9-inch forward, would fit the Knicks' need for either a power forward or a small forward who can shoot, rebound and run the floor.

If the Knicks sign him, he would replace either Anthony Mason or Charles Oakley, depending on which of them is traded.

And for all of Van Gundy's understandable loyalty to the players who helped him get a new contract with a 13-10 finish, a 3-0 sweep of the Cavaliers and an honorable 1-4 loss to the Bulls in the second round of the playoffs, look for Ernie Grunfeld, the Knicks' president, to trade some of those players.

"Jeff gives us stability in a time of change," Checketts said.

That change has two primary needs: a small forward more dependable than Mason and a shooting guard more dependable than John Starks. Without at least two better starters, the Knicks will be as vulnerable to strife under Van Gundy as they were under Don Nelson at midseason, and as vulnerable to another second-round exit.

"The most important thing in the N.B.A. today," Van Gundy said yesterday, "is not to get caught up in the 'my' thing. It's an 'our' thing."

But much of the Knicks' mutiny against Nelson was a "my" thing. My minutes. My points. My rebounds. My next contract. Instead of "our" record. And for all of the Knicks players' praise for Van Gundy, if they slide into a slump next season, the "my" thing will resurface unless some of the "my" players are traded, notably Mason and Starks.

Ewing, however, apparently won't be traded. Even though the 7-foot center will be 34 on Aug. 5, the Knick hierarchy of Checketts, Grunfeld and Van Gundy sounds committed to him for another three or four seasons.

"I think he's got a lot of good years left," the coach said.

But even with Ewing having those "good years," the Knicks as currently constituted still wouldn't win a championship as long as Michael Jordan is with the Bulls or as long as Shaquille O'Neal and Penny Hardaway are with the Orlando Magic.

That's why they need Juwan Howard and whatever other free agents the salary cap (and David Falk) lets them sign.

When J Howard made it known that he was going to sign with Riley, Knicks went to plan B and Plan C. They still kept their picks though. Man, I remember listening Shaq come on the radio talking about how the Knicks need to trade Ewing because he was going to opt out. Shaq then talked exclusively with LA, said it snowed too much in NY for him. Imagine if they would have put all their eggs in one basket for O'Neal and Howard. Zo had a player's option which he used in the off season. The Heat were looking good getting Zo and Howard. NBA later that summer renounced Howard's contract.

nice clip of what T-mac could bring...dude is hungry and hopefully healthy. Even if he comes back a step slower he is still a deadly talent.

crzymdups wrote:if they have to ditch a draft pick in 2012 to ensure the ability to sign two max free agents when some of the biggest stars in the game are coming on the market... i think it's a good gamble.

that's not all they're giving up here... you're talking about a #8 lottery selection, a 2012 pick & swap rights for our 2011, which if we don't land Lebron & Wade this summer is probably going to be a pretty high lottery pick just like the one we're giving away to Utah this season... all for just $10 mil in cap space... no, Walsh hasn't been irresponsible... not yet... if he makes this deal then that would quickly change.

umynot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

umynot wrote:TMS have you ever been to Cleveland?

I can't answer for TMS but I can tell you that I met my brother-in-law there three years in a row to see the Cavs and hang out in Cleveland. The first year I went Wilkins was coaching and they honored him at half time. LeBron owns the city and there is alot there. That year he wasn't 21 and the bars outside the arena had the number of days until he was posted. We met there the following two years also. We could never get good seats but we always had a great time going out in the city. I wouldn't underestimate his loyalty to his state and hometown team.

I have had Good times in South Carolina and Delaware!! .... My Point was Cleveland has nothing really to offer.
Other then it's his home town!!

He wants the Biggest Stage!!..... It's written all over him!!

Donnie wants to clear enough space to tell Bron pick who you want and take over NY!!

Not Cleveland!!! NY!!! The one and only NYC

Think would be hard for Bron to say no!!

i think there's a 50/50 shot of us getting Lebron this summer... i'm not giving up 3 potential lottery picks on a 50/50 flip of the coin gamble... unless i have a guarantee that Lebron & Wade are both coming here this summer i don't think this is a good trade to make.

TMS wrote:

sidsanders wrote:HAHAHAHAHHA

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6124105/

that is FUGGIN' hilarious!!!