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GAME THREAD, 01/01/10 7:30pm, Knicks v. Hawks!
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holfresh
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1/1/2010  10:25 PM
NJPlayer79 wrote:Nate's style of baketball reminds me of that All Star Game a few years ago where the East came back with Iverson, Marbury, and Carter...guys like him you can catch lightning in a bottle with and they can even carry you on occastion but you're NOT going to consistently win with them.

Bold prediction...

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1/1/2010  10:26 PM
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TMS wrote:getting off Nate for a second, i thought Gallo did a nice job fronting Horford in the 4th quarter & in OT denying him the ball... he was having his way inside vs. Lee, Harrington, Chandler & Fishlips all night long.

jj had 30+ min: 2pts, 1rb, 2ast, 2blks, 4pf... coach cant find some better fill-ins for those mins and not get better results? fine, he has things that wont show up on a stat sheet, still, thats some production that the other 4 on the floor have to pick up.

JJ was horrible tonight... complete non factor on offense as usual & he couldn't stop anyone he was guarding out there... Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Al Horford, Josh Smith - they all had their way w/him out there... no way that Jordan Hill couldn't have made more of an impact than what Fishlips made tonight... just looking forward to when MDA finally puts his developing the youth plan into action.

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1/1/2010  10:28 PM
The Answer Man Likes How This Bunch Is Competing, Win Or Lose

Q. holfresh - Who has won on this team?

A. They all won tonight.

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holfresh
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1/1/2010  10:29 PM
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Nate is not a winning player, but man he's fun to watch sometimes.

None of our players are winning players...


?????

Who has won on this team?

harrington in indy, duhon in chicago, hughes in cleveland, jeffries in washington, gallinari in italy... they just haven't won here yet. unless you count 10-6 over their last 16 as a good start.

What has Harrington won in Indy????...What has Duhon won in Chicago???....Whats has Jefries won in Washington???...What has Hughes won in Cleveland???...What has Gallo won in Italy?...Are u calling making the playoffs winning...Well Marbury must be a winner too...

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1/1/2010  10:30 PM
TMS - I agree with you but I can only assume he's trying to showcase JJ's trade value right now. Once the deadline passes if we don't trade him I'm sure we'll be playing Hill much more!
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1/1/2010  10:31 PM
Michael Jordan's Bulls sucked for years too, what's your point?
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1/1/2010  10:32 PM
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Nate is not a winning player, but man he's fun to watch sometimes.

None of our players are winning players...


?????

Who has won on this team?

harrington in indy, duhon in chicago, hughes in cleveland, jeffries in washington, gallinari in italy... they just haven't won here yet. unless you count 10-6 over their last 16 as a good start.

What has Harrington won in Indy????...What has Duhon won in Chicago???....Whats has Jefries won in Washington???...What has Hughes won in Cleveland???...What has Gallo won in Italy?...Are u calling making the playoffs winning...Well Marbury must be a winner too...

man, if you can't tell marbury is a loser i don't know what to say.

harrington, duhon and hughes all started on teams that went deep in the playoffs. as in, past the first round which marbury never did. hughes was the second best player on the cleveland team that made the finals.

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1/1/2010  10:33 PM
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crzymdups wrote:look, nate is a pure scoring talent. but even during his brilliant game you saw some of the stuff d'antoni hates. nate overdribbling. nate not passing. nate dominating the ball. did it work? yes, tonight. but unless he's scoring 40ppg it's not going to work every night.

he needs to learn to play team ball, because we need the stuff he can bring - penetration, scoring, shooting, etc.

sigh.


still cannot wait to hear d'antoni tonight...

then forget about wade in ny...b/c d'antoni would hate him...

no way in heck wade leaves miami. if only for the weather and the lack of income tax. they have max room, i'm betting they get bosh or amar'e or boozer in miami next summer. wade is staying put.

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1/1/2010  10:34 PM
holfresh wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Nate is not a winning player, but man he's fun to watch sometimes.

None of our players are winning players...


?????

Who has won on this team?

Does not mean that certain players can't be winners under the right conditions.

Honestly, a foolish way of looking at a team and its players. Move certain guys to the Lakers, Celts, etc., and they become "winners??"

Is Ariza a "winner" now? Is Crawford? Frye?

You show your ignorance of the game (and sports in general) and what it takes to have a winning team when you make a statement like yours.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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1/1/2010  10:36 PM
NJPlayer79 wrote:Michael Jordan's Bulls sucked for years too, what's your point?

My point is no one is a winner until they win it...U can't look at a guys game and predict whether or not they are winners...Players have roles in which they can help a team win...Nate has a role...Just like Vinny Johnson had a role...Most people here would say Vinny Johnson isn't a winning player either if he was on another team...It's up to the coach to put the talent in the right position for team success...It's completely silly saying Nate isn't a winning player...

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1/1/2010  10:38 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Nate is not a winning player, but man he's fun to watch sometimes.

None of our players are winning players...


?????

Who has won on this team?

Does not mean that certain players can't be winners under the right conditions.

Honestly, a foolish way of looking at a team and its players. Move certain guys to the Lakers, Celts, etc., and they become "winners??"

Is Ariza a "winner" now? Is Crawford? Frye?

You show your ignorance of the game (and sports in general) and what it takes to have a winning team when you make a statement like yours.

I think you are proving my point....

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1/1/2010  10:38 PM
NJPlayer79 wrote:TMS - I agree with you but I can only assume he's trying to showcase JJ's trade value right now. Once the deadline passes if we don't trade him I'm sure we'll be playing Hill much more!

i have my doubts on that but we'll see... i think MDA has it in his mind that Fishlips helps us win games & he's gonna ride him all year long as long as we're in the playoff hunt.

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1/1/2010  10:39 PM
holfresh - When was the last team to win a championship with a shootfirst point guard?
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1/1/2010  10:39 PM
D'antoni is a big Fat phony.


All this bull about principles and winning, blah, blah......Nate still was Nate. For a win he let Nate Sh** on 8 seconds or less garabage, he didn't coach a single play in the 4th and OT on offense or defense.

Nate dominated the ball, the scoring, the assist, everything. Mike with his lessons Sat golden boy Duhon and pull our work horse Lee for this win, like a whore riding a player he has been sniping at for a month.

No marbles mr. mustachio.......... Nate is bigger than YOU!!!!!!!!!

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1/1/2010  10:39 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Nate is not a winning player, but man he's fun to watch sometimes.

None of our players are winning players...


?????

Who has won on this team?

Does not mean that certain players can't be winners under the right conditions.

Honestly, a foolish way of looking at a team and its players. Move certain guys to the Lakers, Celts, etc., and they become "winners??"

Is Ariza a "winner" now? Is Crawford? Frye?

You show your ignorance of the game (and sports in general) and what it takes to have a winning team when you make a statement like yours.

I missed the my "ignorance of the game statement"...hahahah..ok...

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1/1/2010  10:40 PM
NJPlayer79 wrote:holfresh - When was the last team to win a championship with a shootfirst point guard?

Can't say...Nate isn't a point guard...

holfresh
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1/1/2010  10:44 PM
NJPlayer79 wrote:holfresh - When was the last team to win a championship with a shootfirst point guard?

Philly had a nice run with Iverson tho...But if you are trying to put Nate in that point guard role...don't he isn't one...

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1/1/2010  10:45 PM
Nate played like he usually does as a spark off the bench. His jumper is pretty much swish from all over but he still seems to go into score only mode.

Gallinari was definitely underwhelming this guy. Im starting to get annoyed with his love affair with shooting 3's.

Glad Chandler realized he isn't a shooting guard and stopped taking 3's. His fade away jumper is swishtastic.

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1/1/2010  10:46 PM
holfresh - Really? Who was it bringing the ball up every single time in OT?
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1/1/2010  10:47 PM
On a good team..I see Nate filling the role he did tonight...He comes off the bench and lights it up when a team is struggling...A Vinny Johnson if you will...Nate is a great team guy...Everyone loves the guy...He can be a spark off the bench...Calling the guy a player you can't win with is a bit much...
GAME THREAD, 01/01/10 7:30pm, Knicks v. Hawks!

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