NJPlayer79 wrote:Nate's style of baketball reminds me of that All Star Game a few years ago where the East came back with Iverson, Marbury, and Carter...guys like him you can catch lightning in a bottle with and they can even carry you on occastion but you're NOT going to consistently win with them.

Bold prediction...

sidsanders wrote:

TMS wrote:getting off Nate for a second, i thought Gallo did a nice job fronting Horford in the 4th quarter & in OT denying him the ball... he was having his way inside vs. Lee, Harrington, Chandler & Fishlips all night long.

jj had 30+ min: 2pts, 1rb, 2ast, 2blks, 4pf... coach cant find some better fill-ins for those mins and not get better results? fine, he has things that wont show up on a stat sheet, still, thats some production that the other 4 on the floor have to pick up.

JJ was horrible tonight... complete non factor on offense as usual & he couldn't stop anyone he was guarding out there... Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Al Horford, Josh Smith - they all had their way w/him out there... no way that Jordan Hill couldn't have made more of an impact than what Fishlips made tonight... just looking forward to when MDA finally puts his developing the youth plan into action.

crzymdups wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:Nate is not a winning player, but man he's fun to watch sometimes.

None of our players are winning players...

?????

Who has won on this team?

harrington in indy, duhon in chicago, hughes in cleveland, jeffries in washington, gallinari in italy... they just haven't won here yet. unless you count 10-6 over their last 16 as a good start.

What has Harrington won in Indy????...What has Duhon won in Chicago???....Whats has Jefries won in Washington???...What has Hughes won in Cleveland???...What has Gallo won in Italy?...Are u calling making the playoffs winning...Well Marbury must be a winner too...

djsunyc wrote:

crzymdups wrote:look, nate is a pure scoring talent. but even during his brilliant game you saw some of the stuff d'antoni hates. nate overdribbling. nate not passing. nate dominating the ball. did it work? yes, tonight. but unless he's scoring 40ppg it's not going to work every night.

he needs to learn to play team ball, because we need the stuff he can bring - penetration, scoring, shooting, etc.

sigh.

still cannot wait to hear d'antoni tonight...

then forget about wade in ny...b/c d'antoni would hate him...

no way in heck wade leaves miami. if only for the weather and the lack of income tax. they have max room, i'm betting they get bosh or amar'e or boozer in miami next summer. wade is staying put.

NJPlayer79 wrote:Michael Jordan's Bulls sucked for years too, what's your point?

My point is no one is a winner until they win it...U can't look at a guys game and predict whether or not they are winners...Players have roles in which they can help a team win...Nate has a role...Just like Vinny Johnson had a role...Most people here would say Vinny Johnson isn't a winning player either if he was on another team...It's up to the coach to put the talent in the right position for team success...It's completely silly saying Nate isn't a winning player...

NJPlayer79 wrote:TMS - I agree with you but I can only assume he's trying to showcase JJ's trade value right now. Once the deadline passes if we don't trade him I'm sure we'll be playing Hill much more!

i have my doubts on that but we'll see... i think MDA has it in his mind that Fishlips helps us win games & he's gonna ride him all year long as long as we're in the playoff hunt.

All this bull about principles and winning, blah, blah......Nate still was Nate. For a win he let Nate Sh** on 8 seconds or less garabage, he didn't coach a single play in the 4th and OT on offense or defense.

Nate dominated the ball, the scoring, the assist, everything. Mike with his lessons Sat golden boy Duhon and pull our work horse Lee for this win, like a whore riding a player he has been sniping at for a month.

No marbles mr. mustachio.......... Nate is bigger than YOU!!!!!!!!!

NJPlayer79 wrote:holfresh - When was the last team to win a championship with a shootfirst point guard?

Can't say...Nate isn't a point guard...

Gallinari was definitely underwhelming this guy. Im starting to get annoyed with his love affair with shooting 3's.

Glad Chandler realized he isn't a shooting guard and stopped taking 3's. His fade away jumper is swishtastic.