Posted by BlueSeats:


Steph wanted Flip and Isiah could have had him, but he went in another direction.

yeah, I'm sure Flip was dying to come here and held off on the Detroit offer as long as possible...

Isiah talks a GOOD talk, lemme tell you. He's a used car salesman for sure. He sounds so smooth and composed all the time, but you'd think the star player from the Bad-Boy days would build a team around DEFENSE. Instead he's fallen in love with flash, potential, youth, and athleticism.....NONE of which have gotten us any closer to even the PLAYOFFS.

We basically have 3 obvious problems -- Marbury is our best player, Dolan is a waste of an owner, and Isiah is a bad GM.

You can talk all you want about Curry's turnovers and Q's missed FG's, and whatever else. But Steph's total lack of leadership hurts the most. Why is it that when we have Nate Robinson in, a freakin rookie, he inspires everyone to play harder, but when Steph, our quote on quote best player, he inspires no one?

And what about Isiah -- why is it that he defends every move he makes as if he doesn't realize we're a capped over, inconsistent, ZERO-defense bunch with no leader?

Are you for real? I mean, how does Channing Frye become your future? He's our new Gerald Wilkens. This is what happens when your team is so bad -- ANY improvement becomes overjocked to the point where it gets plain silly. Frye an All-Star? Are you for real? Ya....he's good, but let's be real. He has role player written all over him.

And last but not least....the most fiscally irresponsible owner in the league -- Jim Dolan. What a freakin moron. How can you give a guy like Isiah the green light to just spend your money at will without overseeing what he's doing and who he's bringing in.

I mean, I think when your GM starts bringing in dog killers and sacrificing a draft pick for 9 Million dollar over-the-hill PF's a little light should go off in your brain that says "Whoaa, wtf?"

Oh....and don't get me started with the OUTRAGEOUS ticket prices...


So there you have it -- that's the Axis of evil right there. You wanna bring a championship back to NY --- you get rid of atleast 2/3 of those. Can't fight a war with no allies.......

Posted by bobs3304:

Isiah talks a GOOD talk, lemme tell you. He's a used car salesman for sure. He sounds so smooth and composed all the time, but you'd think the star player from the Bad-Boy days would build a team around DEFENSE. Instead he's fallen in love with flash, potential, youth, and athleticism.....NONE of which have gotten us any closer to even the PLAYOFFS.

We basically have 3 obvious problems -- Marbury is our best player, Dolan is a waste of an owner, and Isiah is a bad GM.

You can talk all you want about Curry's turnovers and Q's missed FG's, and whatever else. But Steph's total lack of leadership hurts the most. Why is it that when we have Nate Robinson in, a freakin rookie, he inspires everyone to play harder, but when Steph, our quote on quote best player, he inspires no one?

And what about Isiah -- why is it that he defends every move he makes as if he doesn't realize we're a capped over, inconsistent, ZERO-defense bunch with no leader?

Are you for real? I mean, how does Channing Frye become your future? He's our new Gerald Wilkens. This is what happens when your team is so bad -- ANY improvement becomes overjocked to the point where it gets plain silly. Frye an All-Star? Are you for real? Ya....he's good, but let's be real. He has role player written all over him.

And last but not least....the most fiscally irresponsible owner in the league -- Jim Dolan. What a freakin moron. How can you give a guy like Isiah the green light to just spend your money at will without overseeing what he's doing and who he's bringing in.

I mean, I think when your GM starts bringing in dog killers and sacrificing a draft pick for 9 Million dollar over-the-hill PF's a little light should go off in your brain that says "Whoaa, wtf?"

Oh....and don't get me started with the OUTRAGEOUS ticket prices...


So there you have it -- that's the Axis of evil right there. You wanna bring a championship back to NY --- you get rid of atleast 2/3 of those. Can't fight a war with no allies.......

dolan has an open wallet and he's willing to spend money - i can't be mad at him for that. he hired steve mills and entrusted him with the knicks. dolan does not know basketball but he hired a guy that he thinks knows bball. that's why he puts so much faith and trust in a guys like layden and chaney...b/c he doesn't know any better. mills got him to fired layden and it was mills who hired isiah. i'm not upset with dolan who just seems like a big clueless kid that gives a bunch of money to his friends to go spend all willy-nilly.

isiah, going by the players he acquired COMBINED with the dollars he has spent, should be fired. the results just aren't there. you can harp about the young pieces we have and our "future" BUT that was not the intention of the team. the team was intended to WIN NOW. anyone who thinks different is not really seeing the total picture (no offense). and his record, since his hiring, has been putrid.

we have an imbalanced roster. we had one last year also. but i don't think we can fully assess it or "turn the page" until we move steph.

but just like with layden, isiah will get time to do his thing...and he HAS to b/c steve mills job should be lying on it also since isiah was handpicked by mills (after magic said no).

there's still this nagging thing in the back of my head that says we're going to click and turn it around this year. maybe it's the little bit of kool-aid left...maybe it's b/c i shell out $$$ for season tix...i don't know. it's probably just false hope.

with the nets moving to brooklyn the rivalry between knicks and nets is a silent battle most knick fans would like to forget.....and if you dont know, the battle for new york supremacy is on. this means every chance nets get to stick-it to the knicks they will, and with pleasure.

can anyone tell me what is larry brown's real agenda for this team ? maybe we should wait till next year.

Posted by bobs3304:

Isiah talks a GOOD talk, lemme tell you. He's a used car salesman for sure. He sounds so smooth and composed all the time, but you'd think the star player from the Bad-Boy days would build a team around DEFENSE. Instead he's fallen in love with flash, potential, youth, and athleticism.....NONE of which have gotten us any closer to even the PLAYOFFS.

We basically have 3 obvious problems -- Marbury is our best player, Dolan is a waste of an owner, and Isiah is a bad GM.

You can talk all you want about Curry's turnovers and Q's missed FG's, and whatever else. But Steph's total lack of leadership hurts the most. Why is it that when we have Nate Robinson in, a freakin rookie, he inspires everyone to play harder, but when Steph, our quote on quote best player, he inspires no one?

And what about Isiah -- why is it that he defends every move he makes as if he doesn't realize we're a capped over, inconsistent, ZERO-defense bunch with no leader?

Are you for real? I mean, how does Channing Frye become your future? He's our new Gerald Wilkens. This is what happens when your team is so bad -- ANY improvement becomes overjocked to the point where it gets plain silly. Frye an All-Star? Are you for real? Ya....he's good, but let's be real. He has role player written all over him.

And last but not least....the most fiscally irresponsible owner in the league -- Jim Dolan. What a freakin moron. How can you give a guy like Isiah the green light to just spend your money at will without overseeing what he's doing and who he's bringing in.

I mean, I think when your GM starts bringing in dog killers and sacrificing a draft pick for 9 Million dollar over-the-hill PF's a little light should go off in your brain that says "Whoaa, wtf?"

Oh....and don't get me started with the OUTRAGEOUS ticket prices...


So there you have it -- that's the Axis of evil right there. You wanna bring a championship back to NY --- you get rid of atleast 2/3 of those. Can't fight a war with no allies.......

So if Frye was on the heat, putting up these numbers, would you say that he is overjocked on a good team? or would you say it is because of shaq that he is playing so well? I mean you say he has role player written all over him, yet evidence so far proves you to be wrong. Go figure..

14 pts and 6 rebounds as a rookie who hasn't even learned the game yet. Let's wait at least 3 years before we determine a ceiling. He's not going to be Duncan but the guy can play.

And I don't see him becoming 1 in the future...

Do you also know the lottery numbers?

Posted by bobs3304:

^ Frye would be putting up Udonis Haslem type numbers.

Frye is more polished, but less athletic, less defensively aggressive.

Marbury running pick and roll plays non-stop with Frye doesn't hurt either does it?


Like I said, it's easy to put up respectable numbers on a BAD team. Try doing that on the Spurs.

Give the kid some credit, his numbers are not an abborration because he is on a BAD team, he is our only bright spot on the team. He is working hard on his game, like you should be on being a better person and less of a dirtbag!.