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JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.

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11/5/2013 10:14 PM

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Andrew wrote:Msg switched over to the sabres game at 10. Lucky me.

Nice

Actually the Sabres are the worst team in hockey! LOL

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NardDogNation wrote:We need to bring Bargnani off the bench moving forward. Is there any surprise that defense has been our problem in the first half?

That problem with D isn't Bargs fault. Did you not see the fact that Felton wasn't on the PG's and was just letting them come up court unguarded? That had nothing to do with Bargs. Getting over screens and staying with your man is the thing they need to do.

Besides what about the poor offense from the rest of the team as a whole? It's too easy to just point to Bargnani and assume he's the reason Felton and Melo aren't doing their job on D or when Shump loses his man gambling too much. Bargnani isn't the reason for all of that.

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11/5/2013 10:15 PM

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4th Qtr 0:19
NYK 93 CHA 98

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11/5/2013 10:16 PM

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Andrew wrote:Msg switched over to the sabres game at 10. Lucky me.
Im watching it on my computer now andrewhttp://atdhe.xxx/basketball/watch-nba-new-york-knicks-vs-charlotte-bobcats-4c27f

I think im better off not watching at all

PURE KNICKS LOVE

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11/5/2013 10:16 PM LAST EDITED: 11/5/2013 10:16 PM

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melo getting outshined by every good player we go up against.

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11/5/2013 10:16 PM

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NardDogNation wrote:We need to bring Bargnani off the bench moving forward. Is there any surprise that defense has been our problem in the first half?
That problem with D isn't Bargs fault. Did you not see the fact that Felton wasn't on the PG's and was just letting them come up court unguarded? That had nothing to do with Bargs. Getting over screens and staying with your man is the thing they need to do.
Besides what about the poor offense from the rest of the team as a whole? It's too easy to just point to Bargnani and assume he's the reason Felton and Melo aren't doing their job on D or when Shump loses his man gambling too much. Bargnani isn't the reason for all of that.

Feltons been a little bit of a problem tonight. He's got to get it together. When you need another PG on the floor to help you do your job, you have a problem.

Knicksfan: Hypocrite league that fines players after the game for flopping but in the game and with obvious flopping they call the fouls.

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11/5/2013 10:18 PM

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nixluva wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:We need to bring Bargnani off the bench moving forward. Is there any surprise that defense has been our problem in the first half?
That problem with D isn't Bargs fault. Did you not see the fact that Felton wasn't on the PG's and was just letting them come up court unguarded? That had nothing to do with Bargs. Getting over screens and staying with your man is the thing they need to do.
Besides what about the poor offense from the rest of the team as a whole? It's too easy to just point to Bargnani and assume he's the reason Felton and Melo aren't doing their job on D or when Shump loses his man gambling too much. Bargnani isn't the reason for all of that.

Feltons been a little bit of a problem tonight. He's got to get it together. When you need another PG on the floor to help you do your job, you have a problem.

Exactly so far this season Felton hasn't been leading jack squat. Melo has been shooting a horrible percentage and the rotations have been AWFUL. It's not about one guy.

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11/5/2013 10:18 PM LAST EDITED: 11/5/2013 10:26 PM

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The best news is that this is correctable. You can't tell me with a straight face that we're not capable of taking care of business against the Charlotte Bobcats on our home court (when we're going right of course), where all we did was upgrade on a 54-win roster from last year. Even with all the disarray...The pieces are here to succeed -- we're just not doing it for some reason. A lot of this looks to be on Woody, man, sorry to say. Team coming out ultra flat every damn game, there's no feel for any of the substitution patterns (Martin should've been established MUCH earlier in this game--once Chandler went out in fact) and we're running an offense so UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLY devoid of any flow or creativity I can't even bare to watch...

Really wanted to go 3-2 and then get JR back....That was the goal coming into tonight. Now we gotta hope for 2-3..

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11/5/2013 10:18 PM

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nixluva wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:We need to bring Bargnani off the bench moving forward. Is there any surprise that defense has been our problem in the first half?
That problem with D isn't Bargs fault. Did you not see the fact that Felton wasn't on the PG's and was just letting them come up court unguarded? That had nothing to do with Bargs. Getting over screens and staying with your man is the thing they need to do.
Besides what about the poor offense from the rest of the team as a whole? It's too easy to just point to Bargnani and assume he's the reason Felton and Melo aren't doing their job on D or when Shump loses his man gambling too much. Bargnani isn't the reason for all of that.

I agree its not Bragnani's fault howver Bargs hanst done much anyway. Its just crazy that toronto was gonna amnesty him until we gave up 3 picks for some reason

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11/5/2013 10:19 PM

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nixluva wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:We need to bring Bargnani off the bench moving forward. Is there any surprise that defense has been our problem in the first half?
That problem with D isn't Bargs fault. Did you not see the fact that Felton wasn't on the PG's and was just letting them come up court unguarded? That had nothing to do with Bargs. Getting over screens and staying with your man is the thing they need to do.
Besides what about the poor offense from the rest of the team as a whole? It's too easy to just point to Bargnani and assume he's the reason Felton and Melo aren't doing their job on D or when Shump loses his man gambling too much. Bargnani isn't the reason for all of that.

Feltons been a little bit of a problem tonight. He's got to get it together. When you need another PG on the floor to help you do your job, you have a problem.

He certainly doesn't help Melo get easy open looks. At the bare minimum our starting PG should be able to do that

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11/5/2013 10:20 PM

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4th Qtr 0:16
NYK 96 CHA 99

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11/5/2013 10:21 PM

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Damn

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11/5/2013 10:21 PM

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LOL WTF what a collapse by the Bobcats.

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11/5/2013 10:22 PM LAST EDITED: 11/5/2013 10:22 PM

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Seriously wtf. Tryin to ruin my night

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11/5/2013 10:24 PM

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why would you use a timeout now? run the ball fast and try to get a 2 or quick open 3 in transition. Now we don't have any timeouts and if we are short on time and have the full length of the court to go we are in trouble.

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gunsnewing wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:We need to bring Bargnani off the bench moving forward. Is there any surprise that defense has been our problem in the first half?
That problem with D isn't Bargs fault. Did you not see the fact that Felton wasn't on the PG's and was just letting them come up court unguarded? That had nothing to do with Bargs. Getting over screens and staying with your man is the thing they need to do.
Besides what about the poor offense from the rest of the team as a whole? It's too easy to just point to Bargnani and assume he's the reason Felton and Melo aren't doing their job on D or when Shump loses his man gambling too much. Bargnani isn't the reason for all of that.

Feltons been a little bit of a problem tonight. He's got to get it together. When you need another PG on the floor to help you do your job, you have a problem.
He certainly doesn't help Melo get easy open looks. At the bare minimum our starting PG should be able to do that

yeah kidd made melos life a lot easier, he would walk into open jump shots, felto does none of that

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