MaTT4281 wrote:

VDesai wrote:A couple notes:

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT 7m
NBA sets cap for 2013-14 at $58.679 million. Tax threshold is $71.748 million.

Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley 7m
The #Knicks' taxpayer mid-level is $3.183 million. They used approx $1.5 million of that to re-sign Pablo Prigioni.

= Which means we have 1.683 mi left to to offer someone a contract (with the maximum allowed raises).

Normally I'd say we got a good deal on Pablo - very serviceable, and well worth the cost. But isn't the vet min 1.4M? And we paid him 1.5 from the MLE?

Think you have to play in the league 10 seasons or longer to qualify for the $1.4 Vet minimum.

From Coon:

When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or rest-of-season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary level for a two-year veteran3. For example, in 2011-12 the minimum salary for a two-year veteran is $854,389, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $1,352,181, the league would reimburse the team $497,792. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.

MaTT4281 wrote:

VDesai wrote:A couple notes:

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT 7m
NBA sets cap for 2013-14 at $58.679 million. Tax threshold is $71.748 million.

Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley 7m
The #Knicks' taxpayer mid-level is $3.183 million. They used approx $1.5 million of that to re-sign Pablo Prigioni.

= Which means we have 1.683 mi left to to offer someone a contract (with the maximum allowed raises).

Normally I'd say we got a good deal on Pablo - very serviceable, and well worth the cost. But isn't the vet min 1.4M? And we paid him 1.5 from the MLE?

3yr $6mil deal

We gave Prigs $2mil per season for 3yrs....partial on the last yr(I'm guessing between a $500k-1mil he pockets) if Team Opts Out.

Also, I will research a little more but if the Knicks want to free cap space in 14 before 15 there is a way. They can always cut Amar'e and Bargs too to take their cap hit from 30+ mill to a 11+ mill. Make another trade or two and you have 40+ mill to spend in the summer of 14. That's of course if they get a FA to agree in principle 1st.

yellowboy90 wrote:Prigs deal is also incentive based that can reach 2million.

Also, I will research a little more but if the Knicks want to free cap space in 14 before 15 there is a way. They can always cut Amar'e and Bargs too to take their cap hit from 30+ mill to a 11+ mill. Make another trade or two and you have 40+ mill to spend in the summer of 14. That's of course if they get a FA to agree in principle 1st.

You're talking buyouts and it will be very difficult to cut salary to the degree you're getting at. We don't have assets to trade besides Shumpert. Us making trades this year is going to be near impossible. We have contracts nobody wants.

smackeddog wrote:Nuggets about to lose Corey Brewer. They are having a disaster of an offseason- I don't get what their plan is.

Nuggets did not have a disaster off-season....

They have Jordan Hamilton/Evan Fournier/Chandler/Gallo who are interchangeable

They brought in a rookie Eric Green....J.J. Hickson and Darell Arthur. There's no need to overpay players if you don't have to. Brewer wants 4yrs $20mil.

If they move Andre Miller they could be players in free agency next year.

smackeddog wrote:Nuggets about to lose Corey Brewer. They are having a disaster of an offseason- I don't get what their plan is.

I think we and the Nuggets took comparable steps backwards.

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Nuggets about to lose Corey Brewer. They are having a disaster of an offseason- I don't get what their plan is.

I think we and the Nuggets took comparable steps backwards.

I'd say we just about stood pat, maybe slightly improved depending on our last few moves and how our players look in summer league. We lost Cope and we probably will lose K-Mart. Hopefully the Rookies can contribute and we can get lucky with the remaining few dollars we have. Best case scenario is Bargs proves us wrong and we weep for joy.

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Nuggets about to lose Corey Brewer. They are having a disaster of an offseason- I don't get what their plan is.

Nuggets did not have a disaster off-season....

They have Jordan Hamilton/Evan Fournier/Chandler/Gallo who are interchangeable

They brought in a rookie Eric Green....J.J. Hickson and Darell Arthur. There's no need to overpay players if you don't have to.

Didn't they lose their genius GM, genius coach, and best all around player though?

They replaced their coach with a hot new comer(assistant at Indy) Shaw, who spanked us in the second round of the playoffs.

Kroenke and Masai are almost one in the same.

Iggy probably was their best all around player(half a season) but I'm not sure if I would have been comfortable shelling out 4yrs $50+mil to him to stay.

There's a chance Brewer leaves S&T to Minny

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Nuggets about to lose Corey Brewer. They are having a disaster of an offseason- I don't get what their plan is.

I think we and the Nuggets took comparable steps backwards.

I'd say we just about stood pat, maybe slightly improved depending on our last few moves and how our players look in summer league. We lost Cope and we probably will lose K-Mart. Hopefully the Rookies can contribute and we can get lucky with the remaining few dollars we have. Best case scenario is Bargs proves us wrong and we weep for joy.

Stand pat or improved? So you're expecting 54+ wins?
We obviously have different expectations for Bargs. It looks like you're ignoring that our old team will be a year older.

At the age most of our players are, a year older isn't a bad thing. Plus keeping the core players gives them a bit more familiarity (something we've overlooked for more than a decade). I have very low expectations for Barg, but I view him as a more versatile Novak. We hopefully have a fully recovered Shump, unlike most of last year, plus hopefully Felton doesn't break his hands this year. Nothing earth shattering, but maybe we match last years record or improve by a few games.

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Nuggets about to lose Corey Brewer. They are having a disaster of an offseason- I don't get what their plan is.

Nuggets did not have a disaster off-season....

They have Jordan Hamilton/Evan Fournier/Chandler/Gallo who are interchangeable

They brought in a rookie Eric Green....J.J. Hickson and Darell Arthur. There's no need to overpay players if you don't have to.

Didn't they lose their genius GM, genius coach, and best all around player though?

They replaced their coach with a hot new comer(assistant at Indy) Shaw, who spanked us in the second round of the playoffs.

Kroenke and Masai are almost one in the same.

Iggy probably was their best all around player(half a season) but I'm not sure if I would have been comfortable shelling out 4yrs $50+mil to him to stay.

There's a chance Brewer leaves S&T to Minny

Shaw is a 1st time head coach, so basically an unknown quantity at this point.

Kroenke looks to be losing talent than gaining or adding contracts, so that's a loss.

Iggy just went to the team that knocked them out of the playoffs, so that's a double whammy.

I would say Denver's offseason is a little less than disastrous once you see what the Clippers, Golden State, San An, and Houston have done all around them.

Denver's Probably downgraded to the 6th or 7th seed out West.

Iggy went to a team that lost Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry both of whom probably played better than Iggy that series.

I do not expect Denver to win 50 something games this year regardless if they kept their roster in tact or not. I do think they'll be a Top 4-5 team in the West.

Have you seen what teams have done around us?

Heat Champs

Indy Better

Bulls Better(just via Rose comeback alone)

Brooklyn Better

All the real bad teams Better(which means no easy wins next year). I don't care about the Nuggets in relation to us this off-season. Standing alone I don't think the Nuggets have that bad and if so they can recover quickly .....meanwhile our future looks bleaker than ever with every move we make.