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Anji
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12/27/2012  5:06 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2012  5:59 AM
Watching the game again on NBA TV, these are the kind of wins that really make happy to root for the knicks.
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Bonn1997
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12/27/2012  5:17 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
OGkush121 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
OGkush121 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Yet again it seems that the offense is fine without Melo but the defense is actually worse

we're playing the Suns.
I like the team because I want Dragič to do good, but their defense is absolutely atrocious, especialy once Gortat leaves the floor.

In my opinion if anything the offense is fine without Felton...I can't see Melo NOT having a 30+ point game against the Suns, especialy with Beasley guarding him at some points.


They are a .600 home team right now. I don't know if that will keep up but they're probably at least a .500 home team.

Even if Knicks win tonight it doesn't mean we don't need Melo. Its the nba you can win on any night. We blew out Miami without Melo. The truth usually plays out. We've looked horrible without Melo outside of Miami and so far tonight

This team does need Melo. I don't think he's a top 10 player in the league but he does still help the team.

Oh this is just pure bull****, excuse my language.

Bonn usually doesn't bait like that. Most of the time he uses numbers and such. Cheers, Bonn. You havent lost your touch


I didn't mean it as baiting. It sounded like Guns was implying that I didn't think Melo helped the team and I was giving clarification for the record. Also, anyone who uses the advanced stats will not consider Melo a top 10 player. So given that everyone here knows by now that I do examine the stats, that part of the post should not surprise anyone.

So we are a top team in the east without a top 10 player then? Is that what you are saying?

yes
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12/27/2012  6:08 AM
Wow, great win and one I wasn't expecting after it was announced Melo and Felton were out. Once again Novak contributes little in the box score, but somehow has a high +/- as usual. Great to see Camby contributing- he looks ridiculously slow and rusty, but he can still pull down the rebounds. Kidd and JR were great, as was Cope.

Just the Kings to go then we get 3 days rest and practice.
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12/27/2012  7:02 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
OGkush121 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
OGkush121 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Yet again it seems that the offense is fine without Melo but the defense is actually worse

we're playing the Suns.
I like the team because I want Dragič to do good, but their defense is absolutely atrocious, especialy once Gortat leaves the floor.

In my opinion if anything the offense is fine without Felton...I can't see Melo NOT having a 30+ point game against the Suns, especialy with Beasley guarding him at some points.


They are a .600 home team right now. I don't know if that will keep up but they're probably at least a .500 home team.

Even if Knicks win tonight it doesn't mean we don't need Melo. Its the nba you can win on any night. We blew out Miami without Melo. The truth usually plays out. We've looked horrible without Melo outside of Miami and so far tonight

This team does need Melo. I don't think he's a top 10 player in the league but he does still help the team.

Oh this is just pure bull****, excuse my language.

Bonn usually doesn't bait like that. Most of the time he uses numbers and such. Cheers, Bonn. You havent lost your touch


I didn't mean it as baiting. It sounded like Guns was implying that I didn't think Melo helped the team and I was giving clarification for the record. Also, anyone who uses the advanced stats will not consider Melo a top 10 player. So given that everyone here knows by now that I do examine the stats, that part of the post should not surprise anyone.

So we are a top team in the east without a top 10 player then? Is that what you are saying?

yes


well, you're wrong.
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12/27/2012  7:18 AM
Someone on the suns should have put that joker Jr smith.to sleep for that foul. Shit like that makes knicks hard.to root for

Hope stern does the right thing with a multi game suspension

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12/27/2012  7:29 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Someone on the suns should have put that joker Jr smith.to sleep for that foul. Shit like that makes knicks hard.to root for

Hope stern does the right thing with a multi game suspension

That was really bad by JR, and of all people it had to be on Dragič....but no, I don't hope Stern suspends him, we've got enough players unavailable due to injury as it is.
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12/27/2012  8:27 AM
I don't understand why we all just can't enjoy a good win without making insane proclamations like JR is basically the same player as Kobe Bryant
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12/27/2012  8:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2012  8:39 AM
VCoug wrote:I don't understand why we all just can't enjoy a good win without making insane proclamations like JR is basically the same player as Kobe Bryant

Athletically they are similar.

JR Smith suffers from Crawful syndrome. He can just rise over his defender for a regular jumper. Instead he fades away which greatly increases the difficulty of easy shots.

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12/27/2012  8:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2012  8:41 AM
Ramtour: I do think they have three players playing right now at the top 20 level though in Tyson, Kidd, and Melo.
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12/27/2012  8:52 AM
VCoug wrote:I don't understand why we all just can't enjoy a good win without making insane proclamations like JR is basically the same player as Kobe Bryant

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12/27/2012  11:10 AM
VCoug wrote:I don't understand why we all just can't enjoy a good win without making insane proclamations like JR is basically the same player as Kobe Bryant

James White is the same exact player as Kobe Bryant too
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12/27/2012  11:28 AM
I thought the post said " JR smith is Kobe talent minus Kobe discipline ".

How'd it get to "Kobe is the exact same player???" SMH

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12/27/2012  11:30 AM
Anji wrote:I thought the post said " JR smith is Kobe talent minus Kobe discipline ".

How'd it get to "Kobe is the exact same player???" SMH

my bad. James White is Kobe minus the discipline
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12/27/2012  11:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2012  11:42 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
Anji wrote:I thought the post said " JR smith is Kobe talent minus Kobe discipline ".

How'd it get to "Kobe is the exact same player???" SMH

my bad. James White is Kobe minus the discipline


This is Bass Ackwards, even for you. Just imagine they said Lin has the skill set of Nash. Should make more sense.
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12/27/2012  11:48 AM
Anji wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Anji wrote:I thought the post said " JR smith is Kobe talent minus Kobe discipline ".

How'd it get to "Kobe is the exact same player???" SMH

my bad. James White is Kobe minus the discipline


This is Bass Ackwards, even for you. Just imagine they said Lin has the skill set of Nash. Should make more sense.

Felton is Chris Paul minus the brain
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12/27/2012  11:50 AM
Yep. Just get further away from the point, makes you look better I guess.
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12/27/2012  11:53 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
OGkush121 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
OGkush121 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Yet again it seems that the offense is fine without Melo but the defense is actually worse

we're playing the Suns.
I like the team because I want Dragič to do good, but their defense is absolutely atrocious, especialy once Gortat leaves the floor.

In my opinion if anything the offense is fine without Felton...I can't see Melo NOT having a 30+ point game against the Suns, especialy with Beasley guarding him at some points.


They are a .600 home team right now. I don't know if that will keep up but they're probably at least a .500 home team.

Even if Knicks win tonight it doesn't mean we don't need Melo. Its the nba you can win on any night. We blew out Miami without Melo. The truth usually plays out. We've looked horrible without Melo outside of Miami and so far tonight

This team does need Melo. I don't think he's a top 10 player in the league but he does still help the team.

Oh this is just pure bull****, excuse my language.

Bonn usually doesn't bait like that. Most of the time he uses numbers and such. Cheers, Bonn. You havent lost your touch


I didn't mean it as baiting. It sounded like Guns was implying that I didn't think Melo helped the team and I was giving clarification for the record. Also, anyone who uses the advanced stats will not consider Melo a top 10 player. So given that everyone here knows by now that I do examine the stats, that part of the post should not surprise anyone.

So we are a top team in the east without a top 10 player then? Is that what you are saying?

yes

Just checking. Not that I agree with you. We are not the Detroit Pistons over here. We have THE most difficult player to defend on the planet (according to Kobe), and according to you Melo is not top 10 ? Meh, I'll take Kobe's word for it.

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12/27/2012  12:01 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
VCoug wrote:I don't understand why we all just can't enjoy a good win without making insane proclamations like JR is basically the same player as Kobe Bryant

James White is the same exact player as Kobe Bryant too

and harold minor was as good a jordan
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12/27/2012  12:02 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Anji wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Anji wrote:I thought the post said " JR smith is Kobe talent minus Kobe discipline ".

How'd it get to "Kobe is the exact same player???" SMH

my bad. James White is Kobe minus the discipline


This is Bass Ackwards, even for you. Just imagine they said Lin has the skill set of Nash. Should make more sense.

Felton is Chris Paul minus the brain

+ the bruises
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12/27/2012  12:18 PM
Anji wrote:Yep. Just get further away from the point, makes you look better I guess.

The point was JR is Kobe. I said White is Kobe. You mentioned Lin
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