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Bobby
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9/9/2008 9:54 PM

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Posted by Nalod:

Its not time for the dems to panic. We got 7 weeks to go.

Debates will be telling. They ShOULD sort it all out.

McCain should pale against Obama. Biden is a great speaker and should do well.

Obama needs to get this muslim thing done. Its not whether its fact or not, it needs to go away.

Its not the the truths Dems have to deal with, its the perceptions.

What many have to realize is red states don't vote whom they like, they vote to christian values first and foremost. Second is many voters are afraid of the black man, and the black man with a muslim name.

Im not saying thats the truth, but the perception. And that is a problem.

It is logical that Obama and Biden are the better ticket, but elections are emotional!

Im wondering if Hillary was even willing to accept the VP? She would wipe Palin away in 5min. Biden should also.

Palin as president is one scarey thought.

i agree, its not time for the dems to panic.....heard this driving home today. checkout brian lehrer at wnyc.org. is obama being swiftboated ?

i also agree, debates should tell all.

right now very little is being directed against biden... wonder if elephants are loading up for biden to deliver final blow when it counts.

obama picking biden is a no brainer....unlike hillary, in my opinion, biden actually believes in obama

biden should be able to wipe the fatty omega out of palin.... no contest

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9/9/2008 10:15 PM

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biden should be able to wipe the fatty omega out of palin.... no contest

Don't underestimate this woman--go watch CSPAN with some of her old debates on there-----I agree with Nolad 1000000% this lady as President would be the scariest thing on Earth but what we think doesnt matter. She's going to come off looking good in debates and I don't know what will blunt this momentum. They need a gaffe and concentrate on the electoral path.

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9/9/2008 10:21 PM

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biden should be able to wipe the fatty omega out of palin.... no contest

Don't underestimate this woman--go watch CSPAN with some of her old debates on there-----I agree with Nolad 1000000% this lady as President would be the scariest thing on Earth but what we think doesnt matter. She's going to come off looking good in debates and I don't know what will blunt this momentum. They need a gaffe and concentrate on the electoral path.

Based on what i have seen so far she does nothing at all in debats. She throws out ideas but does not take positions, does not dig her heels in. You cant win a debate if you dont take a stance. I would love to see her explain GOD'S WAR, and why she voted for the bridge.

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9/10/2008 9:38 AM

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It's quite shocking to me to see, after the last eight years of Bush/Republican policy, after a poorly managed war in Iraq and Afghanistan, after Katrina, after record deficits, after the foreclosure and housing crisis, after the Valarie Plain outing, Chaney shooting a fellow hunter, Rumsfeld mismanagement of Iraq, the so call "Surge" is actually the US putting hundreds of thousands of Iraqi insurgence and Al Queda members on US payroll..That's right my friends, your tax dollars going to former al queda members via your government as your President preach the line "we will hunt them down"and General Patraes is lauded as a military genius, after the US dollar has reached a low point in the history of this planet, after the price of a barrel of oil has increased 7 fold since this President took office, after Iran and Venezuela has strengthened and enchanced globally directly because of the policies of this government, after picking a woman as VP running mate who is obviously unqualified for the position, after the US has lost it's standing as a moral leader in this world...After all this and more, how is this race still close...Amazing...

[Edited by - holfresh on 09-09-2008 6:39 PM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 09-09-2008 7:25 PM]

I think most people that posted on this thread are in agreement with you. Now it's on Obama to prove to America that 4 years of McCain will be the same as Bush. He can't assume that everyone sees it. Some people beleive it's not true. He will need to present a compelling case in the debates and make it clear not just "evident".

I just hope that people will like me

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9/10/2008 2:01 PM

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Posted by holfresh:

It's quite shocking to me to see, after the last eight years of Bush/Republican policy, after a poorly managed war in Iraq and Afghanistan, after Katrina, after record deficits, after the foreclosure and housing crisis, after the Valarie Plain outing, Chaney shooting a fellow hunter, Rumsfeld mismanagement of Iraq, the so call "Surge" is actually the US putting hundreds of thousands of Iraqi insurgence and Al Queda members on US payroll..That's right my friends, your tax dollars going to former al queda members via your government as your President preach the line "we will hunt them down"and General Patraes is lauded as a military genius, after the US dollar has reached a low point in the history of this planet, after the price of a barrel of oil has increased 7 fold since this President took office, after Iran and Venezuela has strengthened and enchanced globally directly because of the policies of this government, after picking a woman as VP running mate who is obviously unqualified for the position, after the US has lost it's standing as a moral leader in this world...After all this and more, how is this race still close...Amazing...

[Edited by - holfresh on 09-09-2008 6:39 PM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 09-09-2008 7:25 PM]

I think most people that posted on this thread are in agreement with you. Now it's on Obama to prove to America that 4 years of McCain will be the same as Bush. He can't assume that everyone sees it. Some people beleive it's not true. He will need to present a compelling case in the debates and make it clear not just "evident".

To some degree I agree with you, Democrats can't assume that American voters are intelligent or motivated enough to properly investigate a candidate. As proven by the falsehoods that are repeatedly cited, "Obama is a Muslim", "McCain is maverick who stood up to Bush" when in reality he voted 90% of the time for Bush's policies, my other favorite "Obama will raise taxes for everyone" when according Obama's actual economic plan only 5% of the population will see a raise in taxes.

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9/10/2008 2:35 PM

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From factcheck.org

Q: Is it true John McCain voted with George Bush 95 percent of the time?
The Obama campaign keeps claiming McCain has voted with President Bush 95 percent of the time. Is this true? Is this significant?
A: Yes, it's true, according to Congressional Quarterly's assessment of McCain's voting record.
Sen. Barack Obama has attempted to use the Arizona senator's voting record against him in statements like this:

Barack Obama (June 3): It's not change when John McCain decided to stand with George Bush 95 percent of the time, as he did in the Senate last year.

The claim is true. According to Congressional Quarterly's Voting Studies, in 2007 McCain voted in line with the president's position 95 percent of the time – the highest percentage rate for McCain since Bush took office – and voted in line with his party 90 percent of the time. However, McCain's support of President Bush's position has been as low as 77 percent (in 2005), and his support for his party's position has been as low as 67 percent (2001).

Democrats are, of course, attempting to make the case that a vote for McCain is a vote to continue the policies of Bush, whose approval ratings are, to put it charitably, not a political asset for McCain.

Is 95% "Significant"?

As for whether voting with Bush 95 percent of the time last year is "significant," that's a matter of opinion that we leave to readers to determine for themselves.

When doing so, they may wish to consider that Obama's votes were in line with the president's position 40 percent of the time in 2007. That shouldn't be terribly surprising. Even the Senate's Democratic leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, voted with Bush 39 percent of the time last year, according to the way Congressional Quarterly rates the votes.

The McCain campaign points out that Obama told a local TV interviewer recently that "the only bills that I voted for, for the most part, since I've been in the Senate were introduced by Republicans with George Bush." Obama was actually wrong about that. In 2006 he voted alongside the president 49 percent of the time, and in 2005, the year before Democrats took control of the Senate, Obama voted with the president only 33 percent of the time.

Also, Obama voted in line with fellow Senate Democrats 97 percent of the time in 2007 and 2005, and 96 percent of the time in 2006, according to CQ.

And so . . .

So to sum up, McCain has indeed voted to support the unpopular Bush 95 percent of the time most recently, but less so in earlier years. And Obama has voted pretty close to 100 percent in line with fellow Democrats during his brief Senate career.

- Emi Kolawole

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9/10/2008 3:53 PM

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This country is dumb as spit.

Briggy is right that a McCain presidency is not far fetched. Even playa has a point over creating fear to help the Rep's.

But this is all not new politics. we have a long history of wagging the dog.

Palin is awful, but they McCain think tank picked her for reasons that matter: She tested well and helps him. An intectual approach might think otherwise, but thats not our country.

Don't matter if McCain is brain dead as long as he keeps his speaches short and clear.

And don't worry about paying off talaban to keep them quiet. Its been done before.

We can't win in the middle east, but we can keep things chill for while.....

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9/10/2008 4:18 PM

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Posted by Nalod:

This country is dumb as spit.

sums it up for me.

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9/10/2008 9:13 PM

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Posted by bitty41:

To some degree I agree with you, Democrats can't assume that American voters are intelligent or motivated enough to properly investigate a candidate. As proven by the falsehoods that are repeatedly cited, "Obama is a Muslim", "McCain is maverick who stood up to Bush" when in reality he voted 90% of the time for Bush's policies, my other favorite "Obama will raise taxes for everyone" when according Obama's actual economic plan only 5% of the population will see a raise in taxes.

I totally agree with you. Republicans win people through emotions and Democrats try to win through intelligence and logic. And haven't been winning because the majority of Americans vote emotionally. They aren't interested in facts.

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9/10/2008 9:24 PM

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9/10/2008 9:46 PM

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nothing about what he says, but why in the blue heck should i listen to anything matt damon says? just b/c the douche played a genius in an overrated movie doesn't make him one...

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Posted by bitty41:

To some degree I agree with you, Democrats can't assume that American voters are intelligent or motivated enough to properly investigate a candidate. As proven by the falsehoods that are repeatedly cited, "Obama is a Muslim", "McCain is maverick who stood up to Bush" when in reality he voted 90% of the time for Bush's policies, my other favorite "Obama will raise taxes for everyone" when according Obama's actual economic plan only 5% of the population will see a raise in taxes.
I totally agree with you. Republicans win people through emotions and Democrats try to win through intelligence and logic. And haven't been winning because the majority of Americans vote emotionally. They aren't interested in facts.
Have you read Drew Westen's book "The Political Brain"? It's the best political book I've ever read

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nothing about what he says, but why in the blue heck should i listen to anything matt damon says? just b/c the douche played a genius in an overrated movie doesn't make him one...

he did do that "I ****ing Matt Damon" video, that's gotta count for something.

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9/10/2008 10:04 PM

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and he has bad taste in chicks...

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and he has bad taste in chicks...

you wouldn't do sara silverman??

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9/11/2008 1:26 PM

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This man should be running Obama's campaign right now

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/matt-damon-putting-sarah-palin-in-white-house-like-a-really-bad-disney-movie/12957?nc

And it's true. If I ws Charles Gibson tonight the first questions/comments I would have is
"You get a call from an aide that states John McCain has just suddenly died" are your prepared to lead a nation of 350mm people? Are you ready to confront Vladimir Putin Hugo Chavez North Korea Iran as a commander in cheif? And if so can you tell me what makes you prepapred to take on this incredible challenge?

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She hasnt even spoken to the media yet because they arent "deferential" enough to her. This is absurd. Here comes GOP hack Charles Gibson to serve softballs. Whats going on here?

The McCain camp completely cashed in there morals and all semblance of a campaign based on issues. Basically its this: Arent you more comfortable with us in the white house, then them? Dont we look better and feel better to you, middle America?

I know most dont care about any opinion outside of the heartland, but the international community is growing quite disturbed by these developments. Voting in a McCain-Palin ticket would confirm that we not only vote for the most frivolous and superficial reasons, but also we, as a country, have not overcome our racial biases. This at time when are standing couldnt be lower and the stakes couldnt be higher.

There's a reason 200.000 showed up for Barack in Germany ; and America seems primed to respond! Our position as a world power will fade into a punchline.

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nothing about what he says, but why in the blue heck should i listen to anything matt damon says? just b/c the douche played a genius in an overrated movie doesn't make him one...

Whats the problem with an American citizen giving their opinion on a candidate? I much rather see Matt Damon or any celebrity really talking about the Presidential election then listening to another story about Britney Spears drug problem. He can't be a complete moron getting into Harvard just saying.

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Posted by bitty41:
Posted by djsunyc:

nothing about what he says, but why in the blue heck should i listen to anything matt damon says? just b/c the douche played a genius in an overrated movie doesn't make him one...

Whats the problem with an American citizen giving their opinion on a candidate? I much rather see Matt Damon or any celebrity really talking about the Presidential election then listening to another story about Britney Spears drug problem. He can't be a complete moron getting into Harvard just saying.

We dont need some silly little liberal actor distracting from the monumental issues that are currently being debated in the public sphere. Issues like the true meaning of "lipstick on a pig", Sarah Palin's style of glasses and who designs her.

[Edited by - sebstar on 09-11-2008 3:32 PM]

[Edited by - sebstar on 09-11-2008 4:25 PM]