Posted by McK1:

will the rotation problem simply vanish?

out of Marbury Francis Crawford Q and Nate how does 1 divy up the 96 backcourt mnutes?

then up front Frye Lee Curry James Rose Rose Taylor(assuming they return) Butler Woods

9 guys 144 minutes. even if you minus Malik, thats 8 guys who aren't clearly head and shoulders over others. who do you play, who do you sit?

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 3:57 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

I've read many a post on this board and most people wanted LB chosen over the rest of the junk because he is the proven winner.

Isiah has the coaching winning % of a proven winner head coach and I bet his actions and playing rotations will be much less senile and insane than Brown's. (And no, Bip, I'm not one of those Larry-obsessed who thinks the team is headed in the right direction now. That's hopeless as long as Cablevision owns the Knicks. But I am happy Brown finally got what he deserved.)

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06-22-2006 3:55 PM]

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Bonn1997:

I've read many a post on this board and most people wanted LB chosen over the rest of the junk because he is the proven winner.

Isiah has the coaching winning % of a proven winner head coach and I bet his actions and playing rotations will be much less senile and insane than Brown's. (And no, Bip, I'm not one of those Larry-obsessed who thinks the team is headed in the right direction now. That's hopeless as long as Cablevision owns the Knicks. But I am happy Brown finally got what he deserved.)

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06-22-2006 3:55 PM]

Again Bonn you are missing the point. This is not LB vs. Isiah. I am not saying LB was fired and now Isiah can't win. He can win. He has proven that he can get some of the job done as a coach. I have said that I don't have a problem with him as coahc. But as GM he has led us to progressively worse seasons by trading for players that don't fit and topping it off with the hiring/firing of LB. Now we want to give him double responsibility.

Again, read my posts. It has nothing to do with the names. JVG was never an NBA coach and he won here. This notion that you have to be an all-time great to win a title is nonsense. But what we need is a plan. Hiring Isiah is not part of a plan. It's a reaction a plan gone awry. Not wanting to spend money so now we have Isiah as coahc. So now once again we have started a new plan. One with Isiah as coach. Fine. That's okay. But what are we going to do to support him? Are we going to do what it takes to support him? Or are we going to operate by saying "win by February or else". Once again, Bonn names are not important to me. This should not be hard to understand. What is important to me is that once again we are putting another coach in position of win by Feb or we will change our plan again. We go into yet another season with a built in scapegoat. True men will be self motivated and play their arses off for Isiah. I hope our players are true men. But if they follow the pattern that they have set over their careers a few of our players know that if thye don't perform Isiah will be the guy to go. Not them. They will find comfort in this. I pray all those guys are gone and that everything was LB's fault. That's what I'm rooting for. You can win with Isiah if you allow him to coach and not allow the players to rule the roost.

Posted by Ray15:

I'm a big Larry Brown guy. I think the way to win in this league is to get leaders that know how to win, are tough as nails, love the game, and are 100% committed to defense and rebounding.

As a fan, I have to look at the upside. If Larry and management are not on the same page -- he can't be successful. He needs to bring in his own guys that buy into his system. Now maybe I give him too much credit -- Riley was able to get Walker and Jason Williams trying on the defensive end and buying into the team concept -- I still think that is more due to the leadership of Shaq, Wade, Payton, and Zo but who knows.

The bright side to this move is the players will like playing for IT. He'll open up the court and they'll start to have fun. Maybe this team is more suited for that style. We'll win some more games but in my opinion be no closer to winning a championship. That'll be ok as long as two things happen:
1. We realize the crap we have on this team and trade them for better, two-way players when their stock rises because we're running and they're putting up good offensive numbers.
2. We bring in a coach that preaches defense (Avery Johnson taking over for Don Nelson) once we start to get back to that mediocre status. If these guys start winning, the young guys may get some confidence and will buy into a system that works later on.

Hopefully Isiah realizes we need to bring in a defensive perimter player and a defensive power forward. Grab Lowry in the draft, trade Francis and Jerome James for Kenyon and Ruben Patterson. You run every chance you get and have a team of Marbury, Crawford, Q, Kenyon, Curry, Frye, Lee, Lowry, Nate, Butler, Woods. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by holfresh:


Yeah, please tell me you will pick Bargnani over Curry...

yes.

7 ' 250 range out to 3 runs the floor can put the ball on the ground and drive it

vs

the fat acrobat


[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 2:41 PM]

Listening to Mike and Mad Dog yesterday, Rod Thorn a respected GM in this league says Bargnani will be a project at best in this league..He does not expect him to be a player at all...So he can be your number one guy that lost of people project him to be..I'll take the fat acrobat as most GMs would do....

Careful listening to what anyone in any NBA organization says about any player before the draft. They usually have other motives (like trying to make Bargani drop and trading up to nab him without getting the #1, etc...)

If the kid is any good, it's gonna take more imagination than that to get him to drop to the 22nd or 23rd slot...