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Vmart
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11/1/2016  8:20 AM
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.

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11/1/2016  8:22 AM
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:Not sure why such noise and scare.
We have 2 candidates absolutely incapable of doing anything.
Idiocracy in action...
You guys seriously need to watch the movie again.
The mountain gave birth to a couple of rats...
Now they will dig a hole for themselves and eat cheese from our plate.
Not a big deal. I more interested in self-driving electric cars and Mars colonization.

You are wrong about them being absolutely incapable of doing anything..Younwatch too many movies..

The documentary we are watching now is the only one you need to see.
This is mindbogglingly how nation of 300+ million cannot produce one candidate to be a leader who is not a disgusting corrupted snake.
Even before being elected they collectively represent who we are.
And we are a silly and ignorant bunch.
At least those who participates in "political process".
Time to sidetrack this clown show and get back to basketball.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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11/1/2016  8:23 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

When Obama heard there were 650k that SIX HUNDRED and FIFTY K emails on a potential pedophiles laptop that likely contain classified governments documents---Obama said "no no" he's a VERY smart man. Hes washing his hands of this now. And the BOTTOM line is HILLARY CLINTON was responsible for moving those documents OUT. Shes GOING to be BUSTED NO DOUBT about that--so your vote will be for Tim Kaine. Hillary is going to be a big time embarrassment for women especially and of course for those who were "smart" enough to follow her to the voting booth when this is simply public information. If you are voting for Hillary call to make those 650k emails available to you or hold your vote.


No one knows that any of those e-mails were classified, or even that any were sent by Hillary Clinton.
Should we hold our vote until Trump's ties to Russia and the outcome of his child rape case are known?

Your right Bonn no one knows, should be business as usual for Hillary. I'm very shocked at democrates for over reacting to her closet full of skeletons.

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11/1/2016  8:33 AM
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:Not sure why such noise and scare.
We have 2 candidates absolutely incapable of doing anything.
Idiocracy in action...
You guys seriously need to watch the movie again.
The mountain gave birth to a couple of rats...
Now they will dig a hole for themselves and eat cheese from our plate.
Not a big deal. I more interested in self-driving electric cars and Mars colonization.

You are wrong about them being absolutely incapable of doing anything..Younwatch too many movies..

The documentary we are watching now is the only one you need to see.
This is mindbogglingly how nation of 300+ million cannot produce one candidate to be a leader who is not a disgusting corrupted snake.
Even before being elected they collectively represent who we are.
And we are a silly and ignorant bunch.
At least those who participates in "political process".
Time to sidetrack this clown show and get back to basketball.

You can adapt a cynical point of view and find a reason not to care about who is running..There are issues on the ballot which effects many people in their every day lives..It's easy to feel helpless and I get it..But if the people lay down and don't voice an opinion, the Washingtonians have exactly where they want us...

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11/1/2016  8:39 AM
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.


Not really bad..This election just reflects that everyone have gravitated to their bases...Like you will support Trump no matter what he says or does..Many people will do the same for Hillary no matter what comes out..
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11/1/2016  8:44 AM
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.


You don't believe Americans are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, huh?
Hillary's "corruption" is on par with or less than ordinary politicians. There was no Republican outrage when the Bush Administration lost millions of e-mails. And very few Americans hold it against Collin Powell that he lied or at least misled the country into a war that cost thousands of lives. Hillary's allegedly corrupt behavior is much more minor than things that Republican men have been forgiven for doing.
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11/1/2016  8:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/1/2016  8:49 AM
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.

Have you bothered to read the Newsweek article that came out yesterday. Trump did the EXACT SAME THING. Destroyed documents and deleted emails during legal proceedings. Here is the link if you're interested (though I suspect you won't look at it or claim Newsweek is another mainstream media outlet set up to destroy Trump and anything they print is a lie in spite of documentation): http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html
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11/1/2016  8:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/1/2016  8:51 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:I'm getting to the point where I may just stay home on Election Day.

I'm thoroughly disgusted at this peek into how the sausage was made.

Is voting Working Families really doing anything if every WFP candidate is a Democrat? Is voting Green worth the wait in line when they aren't going to get past 2%?

Right now, showing up and handing in a blank ballot seems the most honest thing... and that will just get tossed in the trash as a spoiled ballot.

Thoroughly disgusted. Only thing I may do is hold my nose and vote the entire WFP line as a final shoutout to Uncle Bernie.

Thats a good post DR. Now youre getting me. We may differ opinion--but I respect you want what is best for EVERYONE in your mind--as do I. I STRONGLY do not think Hillary deserves the Presidency--now I can understand why people DO NOT like Trump--BUT I believe strongly he is the better choice for the PEOPLE. Thats just MY opinion.

My opinion is Trump is a **** show blowhard charlatan. Hell, a year ago you said you didn't trust him with the nuclear codes and wouldn't vote for him. So you can see my side as well, just remember your own words.

But yes, I told myself that I wouldn't vote for any politician who voted for the Iraq War resolution. So that would include Clinton and Schumer. And all this DNC shadiness and the bank speeches... let alone all this recent nonsense. Classic Clinton Coverup Worse Than the Crime Third Way realpolitik bull****. Very disheartening.

If I vote, it's WFP for Uncle Bernie. Maybe the Green candidate for Senate. Funny I looked at the electors for Clinton — since that's who we really vote for. Bill Clinton and Cuomo at the top of the Elector list. Ugh.

It's nice to have ideals and live by principles but there are more important things riding on this election...The Supreme Court is on the ballot, campaign finance reform is on the ballot, gun reform is on the ballot, a woman's right to choose is on the ballot, War with Iran is on the ballot, Holding Cuba to different standards than we hold China is on the ballot, Crime Bill reform where minorities get stiffer sentences than their white counterparts are on the ballot, black lives matters is on the ballot, Guiliani's principles of policing is on the ballot..I can go on...

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11/1/2016  8:53 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:
Welpee wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:And BTW, as I said, the government is looking into the Clinton Foundation. FBI has been doing a criminal inquiry into the Clinton Foundation...
Resistance from DOJ (again)...

Lets play the GOP game: Chuck Grassley (republican), Hugh Hewitt (conversative), therefore anything they say should be considered bias, unreliable and either a lie or a gross distortion.

That is not a game, you are saying he is outright lying about an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation?
I'm sure they affiliate with parties, but to come out and lie like that, that seems way too risky as people will remember.

It is going to get interesting. If the early reports are true, it looks like both Weiner and Huma are talking now. And I believe it was the NYPD who found the folder on his computer titled "Life Insurance", which is the reason for the FBI looking into these new emails. We probably are going to hear something in the next 2 days or so...

People on the right do the exact same thing. Documentation and facts do not matter, if it came from the mouth or the keyboard of a democrat or a liberal or the media, it has be a lie if it's harms republicans/conservatives. Exact same game, when info comes out the first thing people on the right says is "look at the source, they're liberal." Why does it only work one way?
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11/1/2016  8:55 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.


You don't believe Americans are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, huh?
Hillary's "corruption" is on par with or less than ordinary politicians. There was no Republican outrage when the Bush Administration lost millions of e-mails. And very few Americans hold it against Collin Powell that he lied or at least misled the country into a war that cost thousands of lives. Hillary's allegedly corrupt behavior is much more minor than things that Republican men have been forgiven for doing.
Iran-contra.
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11/1/2016  8:59 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.


You don't believe Americans are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, huh?
Hillary's "corruption" is on par with or less than ordinary politicians. There was no Republican outrage when the Bush Administration lost millions of e-mails. And very few Americans hold it against Collin Powell that he lied or at least misled the country into a war that cost thousands of lives. Hillary's allegedly corrupt behavior is much more minor than things that Republican men have been forgiven for doing.

I believe innocent until proven guilty. But not when guilt has people on the take covering their tracks. That in my opinion is not justice. When the court of law is on the take where is the justice in that Bonn. When law gets Corrupted it very difficult to get justice.

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11/1/2016  9:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/1/2016  9:03 AM
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.


You don't believe Americans are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, huh?
Hillary's "corruption" is on par with or less than ordinary politicians. There was no Republican outrage when the Bush Administration lost millions of e-mails. And very few Americans hold it against Collin Powell that he lied or at least misled the country into a war that cost thousands of lives. Hillary's allegedly corrupt behavior is much more minor than things that Republican men have been forgiven for doing.

I believe innocent until proven guilty. But not when guilt has people on the take covering their tracks. That in my opinion is not justice. When the court of law is on the take where is the justice in that Bonn. When law gets Corrupted it very difficult to get justice.


OK, so it sounds like you don't believe the investigators are innocent until proven guilty.
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11/1/2016  9:15 AM
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.

Have you bothered to read the Newsweek article that came out yesterday. Trump did the EXACT SAME THING. Destroyed documents and deleted emails during legal proceedings. Here is the link if you're interested (though I suspect you won't look at it or claim Newsweek is another mainstream media outlet set up to destroy Trump and anything they print is a lie in spite of documentation): http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html

You are comparing a billionaire dealing with someone doing their corruption on a national level. Trumps dealings didn't effect me but what Hillary does and did effects everyone. I told in the very beginning that these two were clowns I crap for it I don't like both of them. But what I found out about our government is the level of corruption that is on third world level. Our government was suppose to have a checks and balance system. But the way around the corruption is by everyone being on the same page and being in cahoots with each other. Everybody gets wealthy in that select club take bribes from interst groups.

We need a reset.

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11/1/2016  9:17 AM
Expect more of this:

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11/1/2016  9:18 AM
Welpee wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.


You don't believe Americans are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, huh?
Hillary's "corruption" is on par with or less than ordinary politicians. There was no Republican outrage when the Bush Administration lost millions of e-mails. And very few Americans hold it against Collin Powell that he lied or at least misled the country into a war that cost thousands of lives. Hillary's allegedly corrupt behavior is much more minor than things that Republican men have been forgiven for doing.
Iran-contra.

Hell I know I want Bush and Chaney and Rumsfeld behind bars for Iraq. Fake war.

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11/1/2016  9:19 AM
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:I'm getting to the point where I may just stay home on Election Day.

I'm thoroughly disgusted at this peek into how the sausage was made.

Is voting Working Families really doing anything if every WFP candidate is a Democrat? Is voting Green worth the wait in line when they aren't going to get past 2%?

Right now, showing up and handing in a blank ballot seems the most honest thing... and that will just get tossed in the trash as a spoiled ballot.

Thoroughly disgusted. Only thing I may do is hold my nose and vote the entire WFP line as a final shoutout to Uncle Bernie.

Thats a good post DR. Now youre getting me. We may differ opinion--but I respect you want what is best for EVERYONE in your mind--as do I. I STRONGLY do not think Hillary deserves the Presidency--now I can understand why people DO NOT like Trump--BUT I believe strongly he is the better choice for the PEOPLE. Thats just MY opinion.

My opinion is Trump is a **** show blowhard charlatan. Hell, a year ago you said you didn't trust him with the nuclear codes and wouldn't vote for him. So you can see my side as well, just remember your own words.

But yes, I told myself that I wouldn't vote for any politician who voted for the Iraq War resolution. So that would include Clinton and Schumer. And all this DNC shadiness and the bank speeches... let alone all this recent nonsense. Classic Clinton Coverup Worse Than the Crime Third Way realpolitik bull****. Very disheartening.

If I vote, it's WFP for Uncle Bernie. Maybe the Green candidate for Senate. Funny I looked at the electors for Clinton — since that's who we really vote for. Bill Clinton and Cuomo at the top of the Elector list. Ugh.

It's nice to have ideals and live by principles but there are more important things riding on this election...The Supreme Court is on the ballot, campaign finance reform is on the ballot, gun reform is on the ballot, a woman's right to choose is on the ballot, War with Iran is on the ballot, Holding Cuba to different standards than we hold China is on the ballot, Crime Bill reform where minorities get stiffer sentences than their white counterparts are on the ballot, black lives matters is on the ballot, Guiliani's principles of policing is on the ballot..I can go on...

More important things than living by principles... heh I guess so! The way of the world.

But I'm in a safe state, where my vote either way or me staying home isn't going to amount to anything. It is statistically useless.

Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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11/1/2016  9:25 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:Expect more of this:

Isn't that a chart of strong enthusiasm voters that you are trying to pass as all voters...Politicians lie all day about their platform..We don't need intentional misdirection to further your point...

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11/1/2016  9:40 AM
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:Not sure why such noise and scare.
We have 2 candidates absolutely incapable of doing anything.
Idiocracy in action...
You guys seriously need to watch the movie again.
The mountain gave birth to a couple of rats...
Now they will dig a hole for themselves and eat cheese from our plate.
Not a big deal. I more interested in self-driving electric cars and Mars colonization.

You are wrong about them being absolutely incapable of doing anything..Younwatch too many movies..

The documentary we are watching now is the only one you need to see.
This is mindbogglingly how nation of 300+ million cannot produce one candidate to be a leader who is not a disgusting corrupted snake.
Even before being elected they collectively represent who we are.
And we are a silly and ignorant bunch.
At least those who participates in "political process".
Time to sidetrack this clown show and get back to basketball.

You can adapt a cynical point of view and find a reason not to care about who is running..There are issues on the ballot which effects many people in their every day lives..It's easy to feel helpless and I get it..But if the people lay down and don't voice an opinion, the Washingtonians have exactly where they want us...

Governance should be a privilege not the source of supper-income.
We promoted political bureaucracy into high paid profession.
And this in my view is the biggest flow of our governance system.
Leading the nation should be a privilege of the best and should not pay even a $ per year.
It became so lucrative on every level that corruption became rampant and a norm which is widely accepted as the nature of the beast.
It is not about who deserves it or who can have the job done but about who is still acceptable after all crimes he/she committed.
Sad... Sad... Sad...

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11/1/2016  9:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/1/2016  9:49 AM
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:Not sure why such noise and scare.
We have 2 candidates absolutely incapable of doing anything.
Idiocracy in action...
You guys seriously need to watch the movie again.
The mountain gave birth to a couple of rats...
Now they will dig a hole for themselves and eat cheese from our plate.
Not a big deal. I more interested in self-driving electric cars and Mars colonization.

You are wrong about them being absolutely incapable of doing anything..Younwatch too many movies..

The documentary we are watching now is the only one you need to see.
This is mindbogglingly how nation of 300+ million cannot produce one candidate to be a leader who is not a disgusting corrupted snake.
Even before being elected they collectively represent who we are.
And we are a silly and ignorant bunch.
At least those who participates in "political process".
Time to sidetrack this clown show and get back to basketball.

You can adapt a cynical point of view and find a reason not to care about who is running..There are issues on the ballot which effects many people in their every day lives..It's easy to feel helpless and I get it..But if the people lay down and don't voice an opinion, the Washingtonians have exactly where they want us...

Governance should be a privilege not the source of supper-income.
We promoted political bureaucracy into high paid profession.
And this in my view is the biggest flow of our governance system.
Leading the nation should be a privilege of the best and should not pay even a $ per year.
It became so lucrative on every level that corruption became rampant and a norm which is widely accepted as the nature of the beast.
It is not about who deserves it or who can have the job done but about who is still acceptable after all crimes he/she committed.
Sad... Sad... Sad...

But the last honest guy who ran, who adapted those ideals, you hated him..You hated Obama...Obama is equally hated by Israel, the Middle East, Europe(for not fighting their war in Syria), Republicans and some Democrats..That only means he must be working for the American people...

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11/1/2016  9:48 AM
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Vmart wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:You had me till "alleges"

Harry Reid and other Democrats been briefed on the FBI intel. The story is real.

And yet the FBI refuses to release it for fear it would influence the election. Meanwhile, they very publicly assert that the Clinton case has been re-opened in a very disingenuous manner.

The display here by the GOP and the FBI is shameful. Too bad they have no shame to begin with.

If Obama is saying Comey isn't trying to influence the election then what are you worried about.

What else is he going to say. If he said otherwise you would accuse HIM of rigging the election too, right?

The election is rigged and Trump is actually holding his own because Hillary is so bad. If anyone else from the democratic side probably wipes the floor with Trump. I wish democrates would realize how Hillary got her nomination for president she was fed questions. A vast media conspiracy to elevate her over her counterparts on the democratic side. While Trump spoke lewdly she actually has withheld evidence from the people and government. She committed perjury and the cover up is on the scale of someone who is in organized crime.

I really don't care who you vote or don't I just can't stand it when people won't open their eyes and see it for what it is. You can't keep defending the indefensible. No democrate in their honest mind can defend Hillary the corruption is a 800 pound gorilla and you guys are ignoring it.

Have you bothered to read the Newsweek article that came out yesterday. Trump did the EXACT SAME THING. Destroyed documents and deleted emails during legal proceedings. Here is the link if you're interested (though I suspect you won't look at it or claim Newsweek is another mainstream media outlet set up to destroy Trump and anything they print is a lie in spite of documentation): http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html

You are comparing a billionaire dealing with someone doing their corruption on a national level. Trumps dealings didn't effect me but what Hillary does and did effects everyone. I told in the very beginning that these two were clowns I crap for it I don't like both of them. But what I found out about our government is the level of corruption that is on third world level. Our government was suppose to have a checks and balance system. But the way around the corruption is by everyone being on the same page and being in cahoots with each other. Everybody gets wealthy in that select club take bribes from interst groups.

We need a reset.

How would Hillary's corruption effect you? Honestly I would love to hear you or anyone elaborate on that. How about the minorities discriminated against in Trump's apartments? How about the people that Trump stiffed that worked on his sites when he declared bankruptcy 5+ times? Elaborate... please.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Where the heck is Hillary Clinton?

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