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NardDogNation
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6/4/2025  12:50 AM
James Borrego should get some consideration. I liked the sets he had with CHA.
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6/4/2025  12:52 AM
technomaster wrote:Suns currently have Bryant as one of their two finalists.

I think hiring outside of the NBA (Hurley or any college coach) is going to be risky. I think there may be too big a learning curve in one season to push the Knicks to the finals and beyond in one season while they’re fine tuning the NBA player/teams/rules in detail. I think that puts the team on a 2 year plan.

If it is a college coach, I’m guessing they will make use of the bench. Trying out different lineups like most coaches do in the regular season. Which would probably mean a lower seed. Maybe a play-in appearance. Maybe not. By the time the playoffs come around, if the FO hired the right college coach. The Knicks should be deeper, with a lot fewer minutes played by the starters. The hopefully improved bench chipping in. With one or more starters going to the bench.

Overall a more balanced squad, less worn down, and more prepared to make adjustments. Having a former head coach on the bench wouldn’t be a bad idea. Youthful enthusiasm might just be what the team needs.

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6/4/2025  12:52 AM
NardDogNation wrote:James Borrego should get some consideration. I liked the sets he had with CHA.

Agree

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6/4/2025  12:53 AM
martin wrote:I don’t know the up and comers top assistants list but Leon and the Knicks players all would have familiarity with Bryant. I’d guess that would be a very fast open or shut case. I’d be surprised if he weren’t in the top 3 choices or crossed off immediately.

Some of you guys have great confidence in Johnny Bryant who's never lead anything that I'm aware of.

This is a HUGE job, heavy press influence, rabid fans, some major vets and egos in locker room.

Maybe he's the guy I just don't know anything about him. I mean Mike Miller was a nice assistant but I'm not hiring him for this squad.

Chris Paul would be very exciting for me and not because I'm a huge fan --- just think he's one of the smartest/toughest players ever.

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6/4/2025  12:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/4/2025  12:56 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:I don’t know the up and comers top assistants list but Leon and the Knicks players all would have familiarity with Bryant. I’d guess that would be a very fast open or shut case. I’d be surprised if he weren’t in the top 3 choices or crossed off immediately.

Some of you guys have great confidence in Johnny Bryant who's never lead anything that I'm aware of.

This is a HUGE job, heavy press influence, rabid fans, some major vets and egos in locker room.

Maybe he's the guy I just don't know anything about him. I mean Mike Miller was a nice assistant but I'm not hiring him for this squad.

Chris Paul would be very exciting for me and not because I'm a huge fan --- just think he's one of the smartest/toughest players ever.

If he still has it, I’d hire Miller. We were on track to make the playoffs with Marcus Morris as our best player when he got traded, and the pandemic hit. Got them to move the ball, play D.

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6/4/2025  1:03 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Chandler wrote:So can someone who knows how start a poll on who it will be?

all three playoff series were crazy and suspenseful, and now this????

— Dan Hurley
— Everyone Else

I'd prefer Jay over Dan to be honest. But I have no idea who Leon is eyeing. This FO is good at keeping things close to the best. Could be Rick Brunson.

I don’t see how it could be a college coach without NBA experience, just too much risk for a FO that’ll have near championship or bust weight on the coaches shoulders.

Perhaps I understate the significance of the changeover from college to NBA coaching. I see guys like Brad Stevens transition near seamlessly and I think the constitution of the coach is supremely relevant. You could tell me Hurley is too hotheaded and intense. Or that his Kyrie like superstition is too odd. But he is pedigree coach. Bobby Hurley’s kid. A proven winner with 2 DI championships? Lifelong Knick fan from Jersey City? He might kill KAT for being aloof, but no one is going to doubt what their role is.

Bobby's brother. They played college ball at around the same time.

I think dad is Bobby Hurley Senior but I may be wrong on that.

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6/4/2025  1:04 AM
NardDogNation wrote:James Borrego should get some consideration. I liked the sets he had with CHA.

Yuck

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6/4/2025  1:05 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:I don’t know the up and comers top assistants list but Leon and the Knicks players all would have familiarity with Bryant. I’d guess that would be a very fast open or shut case. I’d be surprised if he weren’t in the top 3 choices or crossed off immediately.

Some of you guys have great confidence in Johnny Bryant who's never lead anything that I'm aware of.

This is a HUGE job, heavy press influence, rabid fans, some major vets and egos in locker room.

Maybe he's the guy I just don't know anything about him. I mean Mike Miller was a nice assistant but I'm not hiring him for this squad.

Chris Paul would be very exciting for me and not because I'm a huge fan --- just think he's one of the smartest/toughest players ever.

If he still has it, I’d hire Miller. We were on track to make the playoffs with Marcus Morris as our best player when he got traded, and the pandemic hit. Got them to move the ball, play D.

Great - you hire Mike Miller. I'll wait and see who Leon hires and hope it's not Mike.

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6/4/2025  2:52 AM
martin wrote:Ha

Exactly what I think

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6/4/2025  3:10 AM
Uptown wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
martin wrote:

OK, this is what I like to see. I know a lot of people love him but I need proof to why people think he will be good. Talking about off ball movement is like talking dirty to me. I love it.

Lol thought the same thing. Hire this man.

First half os the seson, for a month, we were racking up 30 plus assists per. There was a stretch where the ball was moving, the players were cutting, some were saying that Kat had some Joker like passing skills (no to that level but you get the point)....then all of a sudden, it stopped. The offense got super stagnant and we defualted to iso-ball and your turn my turn. Johnny Bryant, your the next constestant to stalk the sidelines of MSG....come on down!!!

This has to be one of the reasons behind it. The change in the offensive approach was so sudden and weird, it spoke about a coach who had no idea what to do with the team. If at least he had been able to switch that on against Indiana, it would’ve been an intriguing development but still weird as the team would seem without a clear identity. But even when it made most sense to channel that offensive direction, he couldn’t. It was too much of a mess even while winning a lot.

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6/4/2025  3:20 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Chandler wrote:So can someone who knows how start a poll on who it will be?

all three playoff series were crazy and suspenseful, and now this????

— Dan Hurley
— Everyone Else

I'd prefer Jay over Dan to be honest. But I have no idea who Leon is eyeing. This FO is good at keeping things close to the best. Could be Rick Brunson.

I don’t see how it could be a college coach without NBA experience, just too much risk for a FO that’ll have near championship or bust weight on the coaches shoulders.

Perhaps I understate the significance of the changeover from college to NBA coaching. I see guys like Brad Stevens transition near seamlessly and I think the constitution of the coach is supremely relevant. You could tell me Hurley is too hotheaded and intense. Or that his Kyrie like superstition is too odd. But he is pedigree coach. Bobby Hurley’s kid. A proven winner with 2 DI championships? Lifelong Knick fan from Jersey City? He might kill KAT for being aloof, but no one is going to doubt what their role is.

Bobby's brother. They played college ball at around the same time.

I think dad is Bobby Hurley Senior but I may be wrong on that.

My bad. You're right I thought you meant the Duke point guard, who coaches Arizona State now.

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6/4/2025  3:34 AM
DLeethal wrote:Interesting take

Wow, solid take from Simmons. Have to agree this was part of it.

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6/4/2025  5:51 AM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:Ha Marc with the best shiv takes

I’ve been ready to ****can Leon for nearly a year.


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6/4/2025  6:16 AM
Simpleton media is looking at end result and saying this doesn’t make any sense. By all reports Leon was not considering what was previously achieved but laser focused on “is this our best path to a championship”. Kudos to Leon, extremely tough decision and the target is already focused on him by a relentless media as a result of the decision. Leon is going all in to bring us a championship knowing if he fails he might be next.
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6/4/2025  6:20 AM
To me not all rookie coaches are the same. Guys who were lead assistants for years and years seem to have no issue at all transitioning to NBA. The evidence is quite clear on that. College coaches are a little iffy-er. It’s a completely different beast. Raw rookie coaches like Reddick or Nash or Kidd or Fisher are also iffy. I look at guys like Bryant or Quinn as Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers rookies, they got the hang of the job as an underling for years and transition much smoother and faster.
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6/4/2025  6:26 AM
Sounds like Knicks are going to embark on a thorough search and don’t have a hire lined up already if this is true
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6/4/2025  6:59 AM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:Ha Marc with the best shiv takes

I’ve been ready to ****can Leon for nearly a year.

Randle grudge runs strong within you young Skywalker!

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6/4/2025  7:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/4/2025  7:06 AM
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6/4/2025  7:06 AM
blkexec wrote:Head coach: Meta World Peace
Top Assistants: JR Smith / Melo

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