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Thibs is clueles on offense. Take Brunson out the whole game we struggle to score 70 in this series. Its why regular season does not matter. Teams take away options in the playoffs. Only good coaches can adapt. Thibs is not that. He is just lucky Brunson is as good as he is at creating his own shots because Thibs ain't going to help anyone get easy shots.

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Thibs is clueles on offense. Take Brunson out the whole game we struggle to score 70 in this series. Its why regular season does not matter. Teams take away options in the playoffs. Only good coaches can adapt. Thibs is not that. He is just lucky Brunson is as good as he is at creating his own shots because Thibs ain't going to help anyone get easy shots.

Who is the player that you can turn into an offensive engine that can get easy baskets for other players?

Deuce and Mikal and OG are not them. So who is it that Thibs is sprinkling the fairy dust on that can do this thing?

I don't get that part. Cam? Or is it the assumption that a coaching system by itself can just overcome lack of ball handling and passing.

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Thibs is clueles on offense. Take Brunson out the whole game we struggle to score 70 in this series. Its why regular season does not matter. Teams take away options in the playoffs. Only good coaches can adapt. Thibs is not that. He is just lucky Brunson is as good as he is at creating his own shots because Thibs ain't going to help anyone get easy shots.

Who is the player that you can turn into an offensive engine that can get easy baskets for other players?

Deuce and Mikal and OG are not them. So who is it that Thibs is sprinkling the fairy dust on that can do this thing?

I don't get that part. Cam? Or is it the assumption that a coaching system by itself can just overcome lack of ball handling and passing.

That's what system's are for. I'm not saying go back to the triangle, but you do need to have something place that's creates shots outside of an iso. The ball movement simply isn't where it needs to be. I understand trusting your players, but you also need to be able to put a steady hand on them.

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BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:I think there was a play during the 2nd quarter where Mitch set a pick for Jalen. Jalen got a smidge of space to pass the ball back to Mitch as if Mitch were rolling to the basket, but he didn't. He wasn't even looking and kinda turned around to move out of the area.

How does an above average IQ basketball player like Jalen even conceivably make that pass to Mitch? It's something that hasn't happened in years.

Like WTF Clutch Player of the Year.

Fatigue and pain can alter your decision making I guess. Jalen is going through it, despite what Detroit fans tell you. No excuse for Jalen going in with blinders on, but it is something to consider. Also, as mentioned above, Jalen isn't a natural playmaker.

Yeah, for me, I'm not there for the fatigue and pain thing on decision making. It's a golden rule and Jalen been playing with Mitch for 3 years and KNOWS Mitch is rusty AF

Brunson had a bad game. Off night. 7/10 from the FT line is kind of telling. A mediocre night from Brunson would have been enough to eek out a win. The "not a natural playmaker" comment may be semantics, but he looks for his shot first, not that he can't make plays.

I don't like the Knicks offense style. The shot selections. The over-dribbling. If they make it through this series, I am skeptical of what the Boston series will look like. This team is not ready for this playoffs. They are playing a soft, inefficient style and letting the refs bail them out.

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Clean wrote:

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Thibs is clueles on offense. Take Brunson out the whole game we struggle to score 70 in this series. Its why regular season does not matter. Teams take away options in the playoffs. Only good coaches can adapt. Thibs is not that. He is just lucky Brunson is as good as he is at creating his own shots because Thibs ain't going to help anyone get easy shots.

Who is the player that you can turn into an offensive engine that can get easy baskets for other players?

Deuce and Mikal and OG are not them. So who is it that Thibs is sprinkling the fairy dust on that can do this thing?

I don't get that part. Cam? Or is it the assumption that a coaching system by itself can just overcome lack of ball handling and passing.

You are misunderstanding his point. He is saying that you can't turn the players into that. You have to put them in the best postion to utilize their gifts. He is agreeing with you and wondering why Thibs was not calling plays to get these players to use their gifts instead of just giving them the ball to ISO.

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Clean wrote:Listen to Caitlin explain what a good coach does. I been saying this for years. Thibs does not put players in positions where they and the team as a whole can be successful. No I am not talking about regular season. I am talking about in the playoffs. No one cares for the regular season. The playoffs is when teams take away options. When you have to make adjustments and move players around to be successful. Thibs is not able to do that. That is why he was always known as a great floor raiser but he will cap how good you can be because of his limitations.

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Are you saying we should get Caitlin to coach the Knicks?

Raise your hand if anyone maybe just maybe thinks the roster we have is not capable of winning a chip yet?
If you think this roster is complete then absolutely you start blaming the coach.

However, I think we still have to improve our bench.
Need to add a physical PF.
Get JB to see the floor better and not play hero ball.
Het a $50m elite player who can CREATE and take over a game.

Not saying we are a bad team.
We are a tough opponent and have highly skilled players.
May go deep if all players get hot.
But if you thought we were complete enough to blow out a tough young team and sweep the first round, you may have been miscalculated our deficiencies.

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Clean wrote:Listen to Caitlin explain what a good coach does. I been saying this for years. Thibs does not put players in positions where they and the team as a whole can be successful. No I am not talking about regular season. I am talking about in the playoffs. No one cares for the regular season. The playoffs is when teams take away options. When you have to make adjustments and move players around to be successful. Thibs is not able to do that. That is why he was always known as a great floor raiser but he will cap how good you can be because of his limitations.

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Are you saying we should get Caitlin to coach the Knicks?

Raise your hand if anyone maybe just maybe thinks the roster we have is not capable of winning a chip yet?
If you think this roster is complete then absolutely you start blaming the coach.

However, I think we still have to improve our bench.
Need to add a physical PF.
Get JB to see the floor better and not play hero ball.
Het a $50m elite player who can CREATE and take over a game.

Not saying we are a bad team.
We are a tough opponent and have highly skilled players.
May go deep if all players get hot.
But if you thought we were complete enough to blow out a tough young team and sweep the first round, you may have been miscalculated our deficiencies.

Since you are having trouble understanding what I am talking about let me try it this way. I don't feel like this taking all day so I am sticking to offense to make my point and to make it as simple as possible. What we are talking about has nothing to do with how good the roster is. The goal for a good to great coach is to put the team and players in the best position to succeed. Everyone knows the players make or miss the shots. You are not breaking any news here.

How you can tell a good coach from the rest is the quality of shots he gets those players. How you can tell a great coach from the rest is the quality of shots he gets those players after teams gameplan to take his first few options away. Thibs is a good coach. He got us to have the very best offense in the history of the league for a few. The problem came once teams made the first adjustment. They put a big on Hart and that allowed them to pack the paint and double anything. They are willing to live with Hart shooting the ball. After that adjustment it was checkmate against Thibs. It's been months and he has not been able to counter it. The ability to adjust and still put your players and teams in positions to succeed is what seperates the good coaches from the great coaches. So I don't care if the players make or miss a shot. What quality of shot did Thibs get for those players in the important thing when evaluating a coach. Talent can carry a coach very far. Look at Doc Rivers.

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nycericanguy wrote:

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nycericanguy wrote:Too many good passers and high IQ players for so much reliance on ISO.

Mitch showing his worth last night though. 13 & 11, and 8 OREB in just 23 min is crazy.

I underestimated Ihart big time because even if you swapped him out 1 for 1 with KAT, we are probably better.

Prior to last night in 4 games Mitch was averaging 5 boards, 2 points and 0.5 blocks ---- we are not better with Mitch vs Kat.

Play them both and sit Josh on the bench.

in what? 14mpg?... Defense and rim protection is the biggest thing.

KAT is soft unfortunately.

I've seen zero softness from Kat in these playoffs - if anything Kat has been forgotten on offense.

He basically has to create 100% on his own or squeeze off 25 footers before his defender is in his grill.

Kat sucked in regular season defensively --- thought he's been decent this series.

Issue has been high screen roll leading to top speed attacks by Cade that Kat has to contest leaving Duren open and cutters like Thompson wide open.

Defensive guru Thibs has not figured out how to hide Jalen.

My suggestion is to put Jalen on less athletic guys. Thompson is doing the only thing he can do on offense and we're making it easier by putting least athletic defender on him. I'd rather see JB on Hardaway or Beasley or even Harris if JB feels stout enough to hold ground.

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HofstraBBall wrote:

Clean wrote:Listen to Caitlin explain what a good coach does. I been saying this for years. Thibs does not put players in positions where they and the team as a whole can be successful. No I am not talking about regular season. I am talking about in the playoffs. No one cares for the regular season. The playoffs is when teams take away options. When you have to make adjustments and move players around to be successful. Thibs is not able to do that. That is why he was always known as a great floor raiser but he will cap how good you can be because of his limitations.

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Are you saying we should get Caitlin to coach the Knicks?

Raise your hand if anyone maybe just maybe thinks the roster we have is not capable of winning a chip yet?
If you think this roster is complete then absolutely you start blaming the coach.

However, I think we still have to improve our bench.
Need to add a physical PF.
Get JB to see the floor better and not play hero ball.
Het a $50m elite player who can CREATE and take over a game.

Not saying we are a bad team.
We are a tough opponent and have highly skilled players.
May go deep if all players get hot.
But if you thought we were complete enough to blow out a tough young team and sweep the first round, you may have been miscalculated our deficiencies.

Since you are having trouble understanding what I am talking about let me try it this way. I don't feel like this taking all day so I am sticking to offense to make my point and to make it as simple as possible. What we are talking about has nothing to do with how good the roster is. The goal for a good to great coach is to put the team and players in the best position to succeed. Everyone knows the players make or miss the shots. You are not breaking any news here.

How you can tell a good coach from the rest is the quality of shots he gets those players. How you can tell a great coach from the rest is the quality of shots he gets those players after teams gameplan to take his first few options away. Thibs is a good coach. He got us to have the very best offense in the history of the league for a few. The problem came once teams made the first adjustment. They put a big on Hart and that allowed them to pack the paint and double anything. They are willing to live with Hart shooting the ball. After that adjustment it was checkmate against Thibs. It's been months and he has not been able to counter it. The ability to adjust and still put your players and teams in positions to succeed is what seperates the good coaches from the great coaches. So I don't care if the players make or miss a shot. What quality of shot did Thibs get for those players in the important thing when evaluating a coach. Talent can carry a coach very far. Look at Doc Rivers.

Everything you said above makes no sense.
Especially when you are saying all that when talking about a game where your top two players shot 9-30.

And your whole
Post is to say that So a good coach is one who gets players quality shots??
Nah. Think A good coach does ONE thing. WIN!!!!
FYI, what Knicks shoot at the foul line? Was that because of Thibs not getting them a better shot?

As for adjustments, don’t know how many playoff series you have watched but coaches make adjustments game by game. Which usually results in a back and forth battle.
Enjoy the battle and hope our guys start making shots.