TheGame wrote:Thibs is not winning COY unless we get to top-3 in the East, which is not impossible. Assuming we keep winning at about a 55%-60% clip, and can at least have a competitive first round in the playoffs (at least win 2-3 games), then the FO and Thibbs should be safe for one more season.

How does one come to this type of conclusion? What's the buildup? Cause I don't get it

martin wrote:

TheGame wrote:Thibs is not winning COY unless we get to top-3 in the East, which is not impossible. Assuming we keep winning at about a 55%-60% clip, and can at least have a competitive first round in the playoffs (at least win 2-3 games), then the FO and Thibbs should be safe for one more season.

How does one come to this type of conclusion? What's the buildup? Cause I don't get it

This is the third year. Prior to this run, it was looking like the Knicks were going to miss the playin. You can’t miss on Donavan Mitchell and miss on the playoffs and think you are going to survive. It was playoffs or dust for this FO.

The team still has room to improve. Tighten up shots. Work in some plays. Increase court awareness, but this doesn’t feel like the squad that got obliterated by Dallas.

Boston is playing some of the best defense and some of the best eFG style basketball right now. The entire team is 3&D. They are a couple years ahead. GSW isn’t getting it done this year. Whether through injury or infighting. But they never really had the defense, only the eFG to out score you.

I think the Knicks are locking down defense now. To our score other teams they still need to improve their shooting efficiency. Find better shots.

Brunson/Grimes/Barrett/Randle/Robinson is hanging well with other starting squads.

McBride/IQ/Sims/Hart is shortening the game while the first unit recovers.

Lately, Randle and Barrett have been getting to hoop stronger. Thibs says it’s because teams have to body Robinson. He’s right. As they keep looking for Robinson on the oop, they will get more dunks. They also have to look for the kick to 3.

Overall though, this team is really playing well. Finding ways to win.

GustavBahler wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:My prior argument was about commitment to something that clearly wasn’t working. I thought it was the coach. Others thought it was the players. For 7 games, they are playing solid team basketball led by Brunson, Randle and Barrett. None of the three are considered top 10 players. The defense is led by Mitch Robinson who has been beasting on the top Cs in the league.

The team still has room to improve. Tighten up shots. Work in some plays. Increase court awareness, but this doesn’t feel like the squad that got obliterated by Dallas.

Boston is playing some of the best defense and some of the best eFG style basketball right now. The entire team is 3&D. They are a couple years ahead. GSW isn’t getting it done this year. Whether through injury or infighting. But they never really had the defense, only the eFG to out score you.

I think the Knicks are locking down defense now. To our score other teams they still need to improve their shooting efficiency. Find better shots.

Brunson/Grimes/Barrett/Randle/Robinson is hanging well with other starting squads.

McBride/IQ/Sims/Hart is shortening the game while the first unit recovers.

Lately, Randle and Barrett have been getting to hoop stronger. Thibs says it’s because teams have to body Robinson. He’s right. As they keep looking for Robinson on the oop, they will get more dunks. They also have to look for the kick to 3.

Overall though, this team is really playing well. Finding ways to win.

I agree, that Mitch is creating space for Randle and RJ. Also believe that RJ's footwork has gotten better lately. He's getting better at driving, spinning, and finishing with the other hand. This while being closely defended.

Knicks are paying more attention to the details. RJ, Randle, Grimes, are starting to hit their stride. Brunson was already on point, no pun intended.

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:My prior argument was about commitment to something that clearly wasn’t working. I thought it was the coach. Others thought it was the players. For 7 games, they are playing solid team basketball led by Brunson, Randle and Barrett. None of the three are considered top 10 players. The defense is led by Mitch Robinson who has been beasting on the top Cs in the league.

The team still has room to improve. Tighten up shots. Work in some plays. Increase court awareness, but this doesn’t feel like the squad that got obliterated by Dallas.

Boston is playing some of the best defense and some of the best eFG style basketball right now. The entire team is 3&D. They are a couple years ahead. GSW isn’t getting it done this year. Whether through injury or infighting. But they never really had the defense, only the eFG to out score you.

I think the Knicks are locking down defense now. To our score other teams they still need to improve their shooting efficiency. Find better shots.

Brunson/Grimes/Barrett/Randle/Robinson is hanging well with other starting squads.

McBride/IQ/Sims/Hart is shortening the game while the first unit recovers.

Lately, Randle and Barrett have been getting to hoop stronger. Thibs says it’s because teams have to body Robinson. He’s right. As they keep looking for Robinson on the oop, they will get more dunks. They also have to look for the kick to 3.

Overall though, this team is really playing well. Finding ways to win.

I agree, that Mitch is creating space for Randle and RJ. Also believe that RJ's footwork has gotten better lately. He's getting better at driving, spinning, and finishing with the other hand. This while being closely defended.

Knicks are paying more attention to the details. RJ, Randle, Grimes, are starting to hit their stride. Brunson was already on point, no pun intended.

this is what good coaching, patience and player development looks like

It hasnt been consistent. I believe the team has been elevating their game lately. From the coaching staff, to the players. From the Xs and Os, to more inspired, smarter play.

Perhaps there is a path to progress? Maybe some patience helps? I know it's fun to fire and trade everyone and tank and tear it down if it isn't instant. Anyway, fortunately we finally have a front office that didn't cave in to the nonsense. Trusting they will stay the course when the world explodes after a two game losing streak.

GustavBahler wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:My prior argument was about commitment to something that clearly wasn’t working. I thought it was the coach. Others thought it was the players. For 7 games, they are playing solid team basketball led by Brunson, Randle and Barrett. None of the three are considered top 10 players. The defense is led by Mitch Robinson who has been beasting on the top Cs in the league.

The team still has room to improve. Tighten up shots. Work in some plays. Increase court awareness, but this doesn’t feel like the squad that got obliterated by Dallas.

Boston is playing some of the best defense and some of the best eFG style basketball right now. The entire team is 3&D. They are a couple years ahead. GSW isn’t getting it done this year. Whether through injury or infighting. But they never really had the defense, only the eFG to out score you.

I think the Knicks are locking down defense now. To our score other teams they still need to improve their shooting efficiency. Find better shots.

Brunson/Grimes/Barrett/Randle/Robinson is hanging well with other starting squads.

McBride/IQ/Sims/Hart is shortening the game while the first unit recovers.

Lately, Randle and Barrett have been getting to hoop stronger. Thibs says it’s because teams have to body Robinson. He’s right. As they keep looking for Robinson on the oop, they will get more dunks. They also have to look for the kick to 3.

Overall though, this team is really playing well. Finding ways to win.

I agree, that Mitch is creating space for Randle and RJ. Also believe that RJ's footwork has gotten better lately. He's getting better at driving, spinning, and finishing with the other hand. This while being closely defended.

Knicks are paying more attention to the details. RJ, Randle, Grimes, are starting to hit their stride. Brunson was already on point, no pun intended.

this is what good coaching, patience and player development looks like

It hasnt been consistent. I believe the team has been elevating their game lately. From the coaching staff, to the players. From the Xs and Os, to more inspired, smarter play.

Perhaps there is a path to progress? Maybe some patience helps? I know it's fun to fire and trade everyone and tank and tear it down if it isn't instant. Anyway, fortunately we finally have a front office that didn't cave in to the nonsense. Trusting they will stay the course when the world explodes after a two game losing streak.

Not sure why this is directed to me. You wont find a single post where I advocate firing Thibs during the season. Not one. Or a post where I dont suggest that he should be allowed to finish the season. Then seeing how the season played out.

As far as trading players, still some I want to see traded.

Actually it wasn't directed at you. Just another shotgun rant meant as a response to the topic. Perhaps addressing the concept of consistency, but again, not seeking to single you or anyone out. My bad for not replying to topic instead of big quoting.

GustavBahler wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:My prior argument was about commitment to something that clearly wasn’t working. I thought it was the coach. Others thought it was the players. For 7 games, they are playing solid team basketball led by Brunson, Randle and Barrett. None of the three are considered top 10 players. The defense is led by Mitch Robinson who has been beasting on the top Cs in the league.

The team still has room to improve. Tighten up shots. Work in some plays. Increase court awareness, but this doesn’t feel like the squad that got obliterated by Dallas.

Boston is playing some of the best defense and some of the best eFG style basketball right now. The entire team is 3&D. They are a couple years ahead. GSW isn’t getting it done this year. Whether through injury or infighting. But they never really had the defense, only the eFG to out score you.

I think the Knicks are locking down defense now. To our score other teams they still need to improve their shooting efficiency. Find better shots.

Brunson/Grimes/Barrett/Randle/Robinson is hanging well with other starting squads.

McBride/IQ/Sims/Hart is shortening the game while the first unit recovers.

Lately, Randle and Barrett have been getting to hoop stronger. Thibs says it’s because teams have to body Robinson. He’s right. As they keep looking for Robinson on the oop, they will get more dunks. They also have to look for the kick to 3.

Overall though, this team is really playing well. Finding ways to win.

I agree, that Mitch is creating space for Randle and RJ. Also believe that RJ's footwork has gotten better lately. He's getting better at driving, spinning, and finishing with the other hand. This while being closely defended.

Knicks are paying more attention to the details. RJ, Randle, Grimes, are starting to hit their stride. Brunson was already on point, no pun intended.

this is what good coaching, patience and player development looks like

It hasnt been consistent. I believe the team has been elevating their game lately. From the coaching staff, to the players. From the Xs and Os, to more inspired, smarter play.

Perhaps there is a path to progress? Maybe some patience helps? I know it's fun to fire and trade everyone and tank and tear it down if it isn't instant. Anyway, fortunately we finally have a front office that didn't cave in to the nonsense. Trusting they will stay the course when the world explodes after a two game losing streak.

Not sure why this is directed to me. You wont find a single post where I advocate firing Thibs during the season. Not one. Or a post where I dont suggest that he should be allowed to finish the season. Then seeing how the season played out.

As far as trading players, still some I want to see traded.

Actually it wasn't directed at you. Just another shotgun rant meant as a response to the topic. Perhaps addressing the concept of consistency, but again, not seeking to single you or anyone out. My bad for not replying to topic instead of big quoting.

My bad if I misinterpreted. I agree we're seeing progress now. I credit the adjustments made by the players, and coaching staff. As well as some much needed clutch play.

We good

Go New York go New York go!