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Nalod
Posts: 71068 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/12/2022 1:37 PM
Same game. |
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
10/12/2022 9:14 PM
Nalod wrote: You and I will never be on the same page on this one. Julius f’ed up pretty bad doing that thumbs down aka f-u. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
10/12/2022 9:16 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote: But yes, most of the team was playing awful that entire game including RJ and Julius. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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technomaster
Posts: 23346 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/30/2003 Member: #426 USA |
10/12/2022 10:26 PM LAST EDITED: 10/13/2022 1:20 PM
Something about RJ's game seems a little mechanical or rehearsed - I'm not sure how to explain it. He's practiced his moves. Maybe he has practiced them so much that it's almost like he's telegraphing what he's doing. Maybe it's as if he's missing some fluidity in how he mixes things up on his finishes. Maybe that's a bit of what they mean when they say he doesn't have a great sense of touch near the basket.
I do think he's made himself into a darned good player. At this phase in his career, what do we think - a 3rd or 4th best player on a finals caliber team? I think he can continue to nudge his way up. I like a good Paul Pierce season as target upside for RJ. RJ has already more or less matched the likes of Rudy Gay, Caron Butler, and even Danny Granger in his age 21 season. Those guys were all pretty good players. Pierce transcended those other guys because of his plus playmaking skills. (he regularly averaged 4-5apg - the others were in that 2-3 range). RJ is basically a 3apg sort of player, nothing remarkable for a wing. The two key things to watch for in his development this year: * becoming a better playmaker (let's get up to 3.5 to 4apg - you now have a few more weapons that can shoot in Brunson at PG and iHart) “That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42686 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/13/2022 7:02 AM
RJ's progress hasnt been meteoric. More "slow and steady". Nothing wrong with that. Not a bad thing. Requires more patience from fans though.
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Nalod
Posts: 71068 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/13/2022 8:28 AM
RJ strength is in his fundamentals than an athletic ability to improvise. Is one better than the other? If you have both, like Kobe then it all comes together and its phenom. RJ is strong that dominates over a lose twitch type of build. The jumper is becoming rock solid. I can see a Joe Johnson type of delivery going forward. Strong kid who could shoot over opponents with solid stroke and foundation of form. The drives are coming along really nice.
Cam is the opposite. Loose delivery and very wirey. No two shots are the same. He falls back on his jumper and his drives from quickness and length. Knicks paid RJ for a reason. he will be handfull for teams going foward. |
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
10/13/2022 11:35 AM
GustavBahler wrote:RJ's progress hasnt been meteoric. More "slow and steady". Nothing wrong with that. Not a bad thing. Requires more patience from fans though. Hahahahahaha! |
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Philc1
Posts: 28286 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
10/14/2022 8:06 AM
KnickDanger wrote:GustavBahler wrote:RJ's progress hasnt been meteoric. More "slow and steady". Nothing wrong with that. Not a bad thing. Requires more patience from fans though. It’s wierd. Tyrese Halliburton is the greatest pg ever despite his teams losing and never making the playoffs. The Knicks made the playoffs and, while they missed the playoffs last year still won 37 games just a couple years after having the NBA’s worst record, — RJ must suck! |
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Nalod
Posts: 71068 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/14/2022 9:09 AM
Philc1 wrote:KnickDanger wrote:GustavBahler wrote:RJ's progress hasnt been meteoric. More "slow and steady". Nothing wrong with that. Not a bad thing. Requires more patience from fans though. Who started 63 games at PG the year we were 4th seed? |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42686 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/19/2022 10:59 PM
RJ is no quitter. Confident that he will review film, work on his game, and play smarter.
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martin
Posts: 75997 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
10/26/2022 11:04 PM
Yeah I’m doubling down. I wanna be so wrong but RJ misses layup after layup after completely wide open 3. He just don’t got it.
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42686 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/26/2022 11:31 PM
martin wrote:Yeah I’m doubling down. I wanna be so wrong but RJ misses layup after layup after completely wide open 3. He just don’t got it. I believe RJ's inability to use the glass is fixable. RJ treats using the glass as a bailout, instead of a weapon to neutralize a bigger defender. There is no aim that I can see, he just throws it up there and hopes it goes in. I hope he devotes some running and standing drills focusing only on using the glass. Making those layups should carry over to shooting, when his confidence improves. This is fixable, its a matter of RJ devoting the time exclusively to fixing it. |
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martin
Posts: 75997 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
10/31/2022 8:50 AM
That feels like a punch to the nutsack
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martin
Posts: 75997 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
11/7/2022 8:15 AM
Yikes
https://knicksfilmschool.substack.com/p/bombs-away Barrett is the obvious choice because he shot at least 50 percent in each game - a massive accomplishment for him given his efficiency issues. How massive is it? The last time he made at least half of his shots in consecutive outings was games 41 and 42 of last season. The last time he did it in consecutive games while attempting at least 15 field goals in each was games 5 and 6 a year ago. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39746 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
11/7/2022 8:28 AM
martin wrote:Yikes Thought this was interesting as well: Defensively is where the drop off is supposed to come with Brunson, and while the defense has been 8.1 points per 100 possessions stingier when Brunson sits, that number is a bit deceiving. The on/off stats paint Evan Fournier (10.5 more points given up per 100 possessions when he plays) and Julius Randle (a whopping 12.2 / 100; more on that below) as the real culprits. And sure enough, when Brunson has played without Fournier, the Knicks have defended at a top-six rate, giving up 108.5 points in 280 possessions3. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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martin
Posts: 75997 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
11/7/2022 8:36 AM LAST EDITED: 11/7/2022 8:50 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:Yikes I don't yet think Brunson has the communication and rotations down yet, but he tries and he is smart. Same deal with Cam, I think familiarity is just the issue. He can FLY around and his length is really nice. We all know Fournier sucks and should be out of rotation as soon as Grimes is back full. I do think they are sticking RJ with particular assignments at his or coaching staff or both requests, just to learn and develop. He doesn't fly around and would be better suited to guard stronger players who pound you. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27947 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
11/7/2022 11:37 AM
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:Yikes We all knew EF was not a good defender. Some of us only expected him to hit threes. Grimes healthy and "living up to perceived ceiling" should be better than Cam or EF. But that is yet to happen. Cam seems like a good SF back up. He is a good defender and can spell that on second unit. Agree that RJ gets the best player assignment often. I am curious to see a lineup of Randle, Obi, Cam, RJ and IQ. Especially against teams like Boston. Think we would do a better job guarding the stripe. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39746 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
11/18/2022 7:22 AM LAST EDITED: 11/18/2022 7:45 AM
Is this what McCarthy meant by "The Red Scare"?
 Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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GodSaveTheKnicks
Posts: 23952 Alba Posts: 21 Joined: 11/21/2006 Member: #1207 USA |
11/18/2022 7:51 AM
RJ is nowhere near the level of athlete that Iggy was. I like RJ but Iggy was also a pretty nasty passer and crazy IQ.
Maybe the problem is both RJ and Knicks fans want him to be Jimmy Butler when he might be better of being a super PJ Tucker. His only plus thing right now seems to be strength and work ethic. Would the Knicks be better off if RJ focused on defending the hell out of everyone and hitting corner threes instead of trying to create off the bounce and forcing shots while missing open teammates? At this point there are multiple players who are better at scoring than RJ Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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