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Anji
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12/20/2012  11:11 AM
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Anji wrote:I would rather live in playas america than most of you guys arguing for a ban.

Trusting the people with their guns is far better than trusting the government at gun point.

catch 22 right? If there were no guns the US gov wouldnt have to carry out covert attacks on citizens killing innocents to ensure agendas are met etc.
So which is safer? In playas world the gov is killing us and hiding behind masked sucicide shooters. Pick your poison

Sorry dude, but Black Wallstreet fire bombings and the Tuskegee experiments must have never happened in your view of the past.

Honestly I don't know what to say, our government has killed it's citizens in the past, how could anyone ever make light of them doing it in the future???

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12/20/2012  11:15 AM
yanks love their shooters. ITs not about logic.

There will never be a gun ban.

Funny, because various states and cities have stern restrictions outlawing ownership of certain dog breeds like this one:
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/HeroicPitties/HeroicPitties.htm

Another reason I would never own a gun in a suburban setting. Quite happy with the protection of my 100lb bullmastiff.

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12/20/2012  11:18 AM
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playa2 wrote:I see what's going on here good Dr, I will let you " your companions " continue to bait & doubt. I will continue to share my theory in the off-topic forum, you guys already know what's not true but have no motive or answers. When more people die in the same fashion in hospitals and Libraries etc... then come talk to me.


This is what Dr Alp & Fishmike want me to believe for solid & credible information ROFL, I will stick to people who desire truth not not fables.


This is unreal !

Don't know about the others, I'm still waiting for some kind of theory from you. All you have done is made unclear posts but never presented a theory on how or why people this is happening and why you are sure it will happen again. A theory is not just throwing out disjointed information.....rather it is putting together that information AND coming up with a hypothesis.


I thought you knew, Let Ice-T tell ya

Problem is that the motive is just not plausible to fit the crime.....nor the rather weak circumstantial evidence and heresy you have presented. You are essentially saying yhat The Government wants to take away our guns to spread tyranny and are using mass murder of children to employ a fear mongering tactic in order to advance their grand scheme.

Does this come from the POTUS? If so, were previous presidents involved? Does it only pertain to one party...say the Democrats, or are both political parties involved? Has this been a long term plan over many Politicians over the course of many years and passed down from one political officer to another? Is the Senate and Congress involved? What happens when a new person takes office, are they secretly informed of this plan and the mass murders that will happen in advance of those events. If an seat changes parties, how do they ensure buy in?

Perhaps this is just coming from Obama.......but what happens when he is out of office before gun laws are passed? How does he get to participate in the ensuing tyranny and genocide?

I'm bring obnoxious....but the plausibility of your motive is pretty obnoxious to anyone who is able to look at the situation objectively.

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12/20/2012  11:21 AM
Anji wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Anji wrote:I would rather live in playas america than most of you guys arguing for a ban.

Trusting the people with their guns is far better than trusting the government at gun point.

catch 22 right? If there were no guns the US gov wouldnt have to carry out covert attacks on citizens killing innocents to ensure agendas are met etc.
So which is safer? In playas world the gov is killing us and hiding behind masked sucicide shooters. Pick your poison

Sorry dude, but Black Wallstreet fire bombings and the Tuskegee experiments must have never happened in your view of the past.

Honestly I don't know what to say, our government has killed it's citizens in the past, how could anyone ever make light of them doing it in the future???

I'm Black too, so I'm trying not to be too flip about this. Remember the militia movement in the 90s that brief moment between the Cold War and the War on Terror? Who do you think some of them were arming up and seeing as the enemy? I reckon Black folks for one. And you think if Black folks started seriously forming militias, all these gun rights supporters would think it was awesome? Some maybe... not all.

Remember in the civil rights movement the chant: "the whole world is watching"? Media technology had developed to the point where people were able to affect change using non-violence, simply because cameras were pointed at them, along with firehoses and guns. Times change, how you bring about change also changes... and change takes time.

Speculation is not prophecy. I'd rather go after a CEO or Corporation or politician I know the name of who I can maybe get out of their office, than skulk around the internet not naming names.

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12/20/2012  11:24 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:except you and your gun don't stand a chance against the gov't if in so convoluted world Playa's conspiracy was true

That's kinda naive, me and my gun are not the issue. It's me and 300 million citizens with the right to protect ourselves.

300 million: the entire population of the United States has the right to own and use a gun? Of course not. They don't even all have the right to vote.

You can't give a 6-year-old a concealed weapon permit. Convicted felons lose their right to vote and use a gun. We have age and competency limits for gun users.

"me and my gun are not the issue" - says you. Wouldn't mind knowing that a "well-regulated" authority of some sort is vouching for you.


Can't tell if you are serious or not??

If marshal law came to your town, you think any of what said matters?

Town has a population of 300,000, that's 300,000 guns you have to worry about.

It might not be something we live with day to day, but that doesn't mean it isn't a right we should maintain, should things go wrong. Invaders foreign or Domestic, it's the last line protection.

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12/20/2012  11:29 AM
Anji wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Anji wrote:I would rather live in playas america than most of you guys arguing for a ban.

Trusting the people with their guns is far better than trusting the government at gun point.

catch 22 right? If there were no guns the US gov wouldnt have to carry out covert attacks on citizens killing innocents to ensure agendas are met etc.
So which is safer? In playas world the gov is killing us and hiding behind masked sucicide shooters. Pick your poison

Sorry dude, but Black Wallstreet fire bombings and the Tuskegee experiments must have never happened in your view of the past.

Honestly I don't know what to say, our government has killed it's citizens in the past, how could anyone ever make light of them doing it in the future???

yes. And owning slaves was once legal. And its the same gov right? Seriously your quoting stuff from 60-90 years ago? Seriously?

My view? My view is this country was founded by taking lands occupied by native Americans by some of the most unhonorable methods and its fledgling agricultural economy founded completely on slave labor. Have things changed? Has that world moved on?

Feel free to join the discussion man. Why are you assuming I have my eyes closed? Because I dont believe playas videos claiming Obama's tears were fake because he had knowledge off and a role in the attack?

Somehow my thinking the central gov didnt have a role in setting armed psycho killers lose killing people means I would deny that race riots and other horrible things took place? Slavery, segration, McCarthyism... there are plenty of dark periods our gov has undergone, but I guess I dont believe those ever happened either?

Anji.. good job. Why to fall in line with playa. What he's doing is 100% McCarthyism is reverse.

Maybe you guys should do some RESEARCH:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Funny... you guys call us sheep. Your the sheep. No evidence, just a play on doubt, fear and twisted opinions based on a lack facts with out an ounce of anything that can be quantified.

Stop showing me youtube vids of people saying the same crap. I guess if I post a 1000 youtube videos of angry white midwestern militant types saying the problem with the country is too many minorities it makes it true? Scary that the REAL sheep are so quick to follow these fear mongers and hate spreaders.

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12/20/2012  11:37 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
Anji wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Anji wrote:I would rather live in playas america than most of you guys arguing for a ban.

Trusting the people with their guns is far better than trusting the government at gun point.

catch 22 right? If there were no guns the US gov wouldnt have to carry out covert attacks on citizens killing innocents to ensure agendas are met etc.
So which is safer? In playas world the gov is killing us and hiding behind masked sucicide shooters. Pick your poison

Sorry dude, but Black Wallstreet fire bombings and the Tuskegee experiments must have never happened in your view of the past.

Honestly I don't know what to say, our government has killed it's citizens in the past, how could anyone ever make light of them doing it in the future???

I'm Black too, so I'm trying not to be too flip about this. Remember the militia movement in the 90s that brief moment between the Cold War and the War on Terror? Who do you think some of them were arming up and seeing as the enemy? I reckon Black folks for one. And you think if Black folks started seriously forming militias, all these gun rights supporters would think it was awesome? Some maybe... not all.

Remember in the civil rights movement the chant: "the whole world is watching"? Media technology had developed to the point where people were able to affect change using non-violence, simply because cameras were pointed at them, along with firehoses and guns. Times change, how you bring about change also changes... and change takes time.

Speculation is not prophecy. I'd rather go after a CEO or Corporation or politician I know the name of who I can maybe get out of their office, than skulk around the internet not naming names.

well said.

Anji.. what is the scenario a militia is taking over any part of the US? Do tell... quoting gov tactics from the 20s and 50s. Please. Like to hear this one

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12/20/2012  11:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/20/2012  11:49 AM
Anji wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
Anji wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:except you and your gun don't stand a chance against the gov't if in so convoluted world Playa's conspiracy was true

That's kinda naive, me and my gun are not the issue. It's me and 300 million citizens with the right to protect ourselves.

300 million: the entire population of the United States has the right to own and use a gun? Of course not. They don't even all have the right to vote.

You can't give a 6-year-old a concealed weapon permit. Convicted felons lose their right to vote and use a gun. We have age and competency limits for gun users.

"me and my gun are not the issue" - says you. Wouldn't mind knowing that a "well-regulated" authority of some sort is vouching for you.


Can't tell if you are serious or not??

If marshal law came to your town, you think any of what said matters?

Town has a population of 300,000, that's 300,000 guns you have to worry about.

It might not be something we live with day to day, but that doesn't mean it isn't a right we should maintain, should things go wrong. Invaders foreign or Domestic, it's the last line protection.

Oh I'm serious. A gun for every person, even if they don't know how or can't use it? Can't you even make your math more realistic?

I guess I am not as worried about the likelihood of out and out martial law... just because it's not as likely as me getting identity theft or pushed on the subway tracks. I try to worry about things that are likely so I'm not wasting time. But I take martial arts too, in case I'm cornered in a subway car. If martial law comes to the US, it sure as hell is going to sneak up on you. Some see the proposed gun control legislation as a harbinger to come. To me as a New Yorker, I don't know if guns at a Mets-Phillies game is a good idea, as an absurd example. I hear your point, but it has a bit too much general paranoia. As a New Yorker, my paranoia is specific!

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12/20/2012  11:49 AM
Seriously. We have security and metal detectors everywhere for a reason. Notion of arming every civilian is beyond ridiculous
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12/20/2012  11:54 AM
I guess what I'm saying is: if I really believed martial law against me and mine was imminent or likely, I'd go whole hog. Not just guns, rations, satellite phones, get some hackers on my side... if that war ever goes down, you are going to need a lot more than guns.
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12/20/2012  11:57 AM
Hell yea I would go Macgyver up in this bitch
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12/20/2012  12:01 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:I guess what I'm saying is: if I really believed martial law against me and mine was imminent or likely, I'd go whole hog. Not just guns, rations, satellite phones, get some hackers on my side... if that war ever goes down, you are going to need a lot more than guns.

and whats the scenario? Invasion by another country? Whats the event that triggers mashall law? The problem even suggesting such a thing is space. There's too much of in this country. We feel like lemmings in this city, but get in a plane and fly west and the country is empty for 3000 miles. Keeping guns for the threat of marshall law is utter rubbish. Protection from space aliens? More likely.
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12/20/2012  12:02 PM
This is all misdirected discussion,

what we should be focusing on is developing bulletproof body suits, or bubbles, that everyone would wear at all times, and we can bump into each other and even take a bullet and no one would be hurt

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12/20/2012  12:03 PM
fishmike wrote:
Anji wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Anji wrote:I would rather live in playas america than most of you guys arguing for a ban.

Trusting the people with their guns is far better than trusting the government at gun point.

catch 22 right? If there were no guns the US gov wouldnt have to carry out covert attacks on citizens killing innocents to ensure agendas are met etc.
So which is safer? In playas world the gov is killing us and hiding behind masked sucicide shooters. Pick your poison

Sorry dude, but Black Wallstreet fire bombings and the Tuskegee experiments must have never happened in your view of the past.

Honestly I don't know what to say, our government has killed it's citizens in the past, how could anyone ever make light of them doing it in the future???

yes. And owning slaves was once legal. And its the same gov right? Seriously your quoting stuff from 60-90 years ago? Seriously?

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment[1] (also known as the Tuskegee syphilis study or Public Health Service syphilis study) was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972.............
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12/20/2012  12:21 PM
fishmike wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:I guess what I'm saying is: if I really believed martial law against me and mine was imminent or likely, I'd go whole hog. Not just guns, rations, satellite phones, get some hackers on my side... if that war ever goes down, you are going to need a lot more than guns.

and whats the scenario? Invasion by another country? Whats the event that triggers mashall law? The problem even suggesting such a thing is space. There's too much of in this country. We feel like lemmings in this city, but get in a plane and fly west and the country is empty for 3000 miles. Keeping guns for the threat of marshall law is utter rubbish. Protection from space aliens? More likely.

I believe in looking at a problem holistically, even if I don't agree with the assessment. People think they are preparing for a war, when they aren't even ready for a battle or a siege.

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12/20/2012  12:21 PM
Who really killed the Connecticut children?


by Kevin Barrett

When something unbelievably evil happens in one of our schools, like the recent murder of 27 children and teachers at the Newtown School in Connecticut, the media always tells us the same thing: blame the lone nut(s).

But history suggests that many if not most schoolyard massacres, like other large-scale acts of domestic terrorism, have a much more sinister agenda.

Sheriff Pat Sullivan, who ran the Columbine investigation, was arrested last year and convicted of coercing sexual favors from a child in exchange for methamphetamine. His ridiculously short sentence, served in the jail that bears his name, amounted to a slap on the wrist. Rumor has it that Sullivan is part of a pedophile network along the lines of the Finders of Lost Children and the perpetrators of the Franklin Scandal child sex ring.

Some Columbine victims’ family members suspect that Sheriff Sullivan was involved in a “butt rape” incident involving the alleged Columbine shooters. Were those shooters mind-controlled sex-abuse victims?

Rogue intelligence agents and their psychiatrist colleagues have been brainwashing “lone nuts” to commit murder at least since the CIA’s MK-Ultra program achieved its objectives circa 1960.

Why would such “rogue networks” want to send brainwashed Manchurian Candidates into schools to massacre children?

Let’s allow one of the terrorists themselves to answer that question.

Remember Operation Gladio? The Pentagon, through NATO, organized bombings and shootings in the streets of Europe. When one of the terrorists got caught, he explained at his trial: “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security.” He later explained the “strategy of tension” to the BBC: “To create tension within the country to promote conservative, reactionary social and political tendencies.”

Google “Brabant massacre” for more gory details.

So the answer to the question, WHY? is really very simple: When you terrorize the population, you open the door for fascist, authoritarian politicians.

Operation Gladio never ended. It’s still happening, right here in America.

Wade Michael Page, the “man with a 9/11 tattoo” blamed for the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting, turned out to be a US Army psy-ops specialist.

The “DC Sniper” – the US Army Special Forces whiz who changed his name to “Muhammad” just in time to go on a shooting spree – was another government-sponsored false-flag operation.

So whenever an event like today’s Connecticut massacre screams out at you from your screen: BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID, you should tell the mainstream media brain washers to go to hell, then join those of us who are exposing the false flag terrorists and setting the stage for a world in which they will no longer ply their bloody trade.
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12/20/2012  12:21 PM
Anyway, when it comes to guns, I trust the citizens of this country more than I trust the government. And I think History is on my side when it comes to this.
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12/20/2012  12:22 PM
Anji wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Anji wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Anji wrote:I would rather live in playas america than most of you guys arguing for a ban.

Trusting the people with their guns is far better than trusting the government at gun point.

catch 22 right? If there were no guns the US gov wouldnt have to carry out covert attacks on citizens killing innocents to ensure agendas are met etc.
So which is safer? In playas world the gov is killing us and hiding behind masked sucicide shooters. Pick your poison

Sorry dude, but Black Wallstreet fire bombings and the Tuskegee experiments must have never happened in your view of the past.

Honestly I don't know what to say, our government has killed it's citizens in the past, how could anyone ever make light of them doing it in the future???

yes. And owning slaves was once legal. And its the same gov right? Seriously your quoting stuff from 60-90 years ago? Seriously?

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment[1] (also known as the Tuskegee syphilis study or Public Health Service syphilis study) was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972.............
I know exactly what they were. They let those guys suffer horrific deaths. Which has WHAT to do with this gov? NOTHING. That era and this have nothing in common.
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12/20/2012  12:22 PM
I don't now playa2, this all sounds like some loony conspiracy stuffs
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12/20/2012  12:26 PM
Anji wrote:Anyway, when it comes to guns, I trust the citizens of this country more than I trust the government. And I think History is on my side when it comes to this.

The government is made up of citizens of this country I thought.

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