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ATrain
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1/20/2012  9:27 PM
Regardless of MDA's system. With this group of guys you need a legit point guard. No if, ands, or buts about it. You have a score first player in Melo. An Amar'e who is obviously not the same as he was last year, and cannot create shots for himself. A Tyson Chandler who will not be involved in the offense unless someone sets him up. Another player who cannot create shots for himself in Fields. A low IQ player in TD. A player who can create shots for himself in a league without offensive fouls in Walker. I mean there is just no way without a legit pg.
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1/20/2012  9:27 PM
i don't think d'antoni has run this many iso's his whole coaching career has he has this year. he's obviously changed his offense to suit his personnel. we need baron in the worst way to get back to SSOL.
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1/20/2012  9:27 PM
crzymdups wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
colombian0725 wrote:
ATrain wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
airchibundo507 wrote:
ATrain wrote:
airchibundo507 wrote:melo is a ball stopper. at the same time, where are the offensive sets? where are the plays to be called?

Did you suddenly forget that we don't have a pg?

you don't need a PG to have an offense

agreed. can we all agree that's on d'antoni? he won't change his offense to suit his personnel


Although I agree with the bolded, we still need a pg. Especially having Amar'e and Tyson. All the better teams in the league have a pg. I can't see this getting any better until Baron is back and comfortable.

LOL Baron ain't going to make a difference. Baron would need to come in and play like Chris Paul. Which is not going to happen.

Exactly. some people are high because they think that baron will make us a top 3 team. hell even when baron davis was in his prime he was never a steve nash or chris paul

no one is expecting him to be a savior. we're expecting him to be a point guard. which this team does not have right now.
i do understand basketball been playing since i was 3 a pg no less go figure lol. I have read many people say that baron will make this team dominat all of a sudden so i didn't say anything untrue. Once again I am not saying the majority think that im saying a few or some. I mean like i said read the post please man it will make this easier lol.
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1/20/2012  9:28 PM
nyk4ever wrote:i could care less about d'antoni being fired, although i do think he has something to offer this team. what does anyone think hiring a coach midseason (most likely woodson) is going to do? there's no practice time for any coach to implement any of his own ideas so basically they are going to keep things the same.

It did something for the Pacers when done.

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1/20/2012  9:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2012  9:28 PM
nyk4ever wrote:i could care less about d'antoni being fired, although i do think he has something to offer this team. what does anyone think hiring a coach midseason (most likely woodson) is going to do? there's no practice time for any coach to implement any of his own ideas so basically they are going to keep things the same.

Worked for JVG when he took over for Nelson or Indy last year. Can't get any worse than this

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1/20/2012  9:28 PM
ATrain wrote:Regardless of MDA's system. With this group of guys you need a legit point guard. No if, ands, or buts about it. You have a score first player in Melo. An Amar'e who is obviously not the same as he was last year, and cannot create shots for himself. A Tyson Chandler who will not be involved in the offense unless someone sets him up. Another player who cannot create shots for himself in Fields. A low IQ player in TD. A player who can create shots for himself in a league without offensive fouls in Walker. I mean there is just no way without a legit pg.

don't bother - most don't get it. i've made this point countless times and only a few seem to understand it.

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1/20/2012  9:28 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:We don't need Baron to be Jesus to be our savior...we just need that little dutch boy to plug his finger in the dam.

LOL. Baron is going to stop Melo from chucking up 26 bad shots out of 29 shots. Baron is going to have Amare play solid defense. LOL

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1/20/2012  9:29 PM
crzymdups wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:We don't need Baron to be Jesus to be our savior...we just need that little dutch boy to plug his finger in the dam.

+10000

this team needs an orchestrator on offense so badly. they have two guys who have averaged 25ppg in their career. they don't need a guy to come and score 30. they need a guy to get his teammates the ball in the right spot.

i never dispute that. What i said baron is coming off a tough injury and he needs time to gel so dont expect him to be on fire right away. Thats not a crazy statement
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1/20/2012  9:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2012  9:30 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i could care less about d'antoni being fired, although i do think he has something to offer this team. what does anyone think hiring a coach midseason (most likely woodson) is going to do? there's no practice time for any coach to implement any of his own ideas so basically they are going to keep things the same.

Worked for JVG when he took over for Nelson. Can't get any worse than this

bro, in this shortened season we're having practices once every 2 weeks it seems. there's not enough time to institute a whole new offense, there is no comparison to what's going on this year with the schedule than any other year.

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ATrain
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1/20/2012  9:29 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
ATrain wrote:Regardless of MDA's system. With this group of guys you need a legit point guard. No if, ands, or buts about it. You have a score first player in Melo. An Amar'e who is obviously not the same as he was last year, and cannot create shots for himself. A Tyson Chandler who will not be involved in the offense unless someone sets him up. Another player who cannot create shots for himself in Fields. A low IQ player in TD. A player who can create shots for himself in a league without offensive fouls in Walker. I mean there is just no way without a legit pg.

don't bother - most don't get it. i've made this point countless times and only a few seem to understand it.

I mean I just don't understand how that isn't obvious.

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1/20/2012  9:30 PM
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1/20/2012  9:31 PM
No confidence at all..the whole team is turmoil
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1/20/2012  9:31 PM
atleast they're being booed off the floor......
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1/20/2012  9:31 PM
they deserve to get booed
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1/20/2012  9:31 PM
Pathetic !!
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1/20/2012  9:31 PM
Skiles, sees his team is doing nothing on offense, calls timeout.

Damn, I am so jealous of other teams having competent coaches.

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ATrain
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1/20/2012  9:32 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Skiles, sees his team is doing nothing on offense, calls timeout.

Damn, I am so jealous of other teams having competent coaches.

How many timeouts do we have?

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1/20/2012  9:32 PM
JCrusher wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
colombian0725 wrote:
ATrain wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
airchibundo507 wrote:
ATrain wrote:
airchibundo507 wrote:melo is a ball stopper. at the same time, where are the offensive sets? where are the plays to be called?

Did you suddenly forget that we don't have a pg?

you don't need a PG to have an offense

agreed. can we all agree that's on d'antoni? he won't change his offense to suit his personnel


Although I agree with the bolded, we still need a pg. Especially having Amar'e and Tyson. All the better teams in the league have a pg. I can't see this getting any better until Baron is back and comfortable.

LOL Baron ain't going to make a difference. Baron would need to come in and play like Chris Paul. Which is not going to happen.

Exactly. some people are high because they think that baron will make us a top 3 team. hell even when baron davis was in his prime he was never a steve nash or chris paul

no one is expecting him to be a savior. we're expecting him to be a point guard. which this team does not have right now.
i do understand basketball been playing since i was 3 a pg no less go figure lol. I have read many people say that baron will make this team dominat all of a sudden so i didn't say anything untrue. Once again I am not saying the majority think that im saying a few or some. I mean like i said read the post please man it will make this easier lol.

where did i say dominant?

and if you like 3yr old point guards now i understand why you like toney.

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1/20/2012  9:33 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Skiles, sees his team is doing nothing on offense, calls timeout.

Damn, I am so jealous of other teams having competent coaches.

Couldn't agree more, our coaching handicap is like spotting every team we play 20 points before the game begins !!

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1/20/2012  9:33 PM
nyk4ever wrote:i don't think d'antoni has run this many iso's his whole coaching career has he has this year. he's obviously changed his offense to suit his personnel. we need baron in the worst way to get back to SSOL.

It's just not running Iso's it's the way they are being run. Iso's starting at 3/4 court or half court??? ridiculous.

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