GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:D'Antoni has to go. Its a given now. And if that means Walsh leaves with him, I'll be sad but I won't care.

Any other coach would have this team playing AVERAGE defense, which would've won us the last two games and many more. D'Antoni amazingly has them playing ZIP!

Really? MDA leaves and Melo and Amare becomes beasts on D too?

Does MDA leaving find us a guy to guard Roy Hibbert and stop Hansborough from looking like Kevin F-in Mchale out there?

I really do hope it's that easy. Fire MDA and we go from 25th in FG % allowed to what?

Let's assume you're right..MDA tells the players "Hey the plan is we're going to outscore the other team and not play D"

Does that mean all the vets and our "superstars" just all fall in line and say okay..let's not play D?

I'm not saying MDA is blame free in the lack of defense but just find it's a bit odd to think that the players..the guys actually on the court don't have as much or MORE blame that should be falling on their shoulders.

The guys on the court should take the blame just as well as D'Antoni does, but I don't understand why everyone's looking at this like it's a new problem. The Knicks had no height and no defense before Carmelo got here, and became a better team with no height and no defense now that Melo is here. The trade wasn't for this year, and Walsh summed it up perfectly when he said that it's his job to find the roleplayers again. It's not happenging this season, though.

y2zipper wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:D'Antoni has to go. Its a given now. And if that means Walsh leaves with him, I'll be sad but I won't care.

Any other coach would have this team playing AVERAGE defense, which would've won us the last two games and many more. D'Antoni amazingly has them playing ZIP!

Really? MDA leaves and Melo and Amare becomes beasts on D too?

Does MDA leaving find us a guy to guard Roy Hibbert and stop Hansborough from looking like Kevin F-in Mchale out there?

I really do hope it's that easy. Fire MDA and we go from 25th in FG % allowed to what?

Let's assume you're right..MDA tells the players "Hey the plan is we're going to outscore the other team and not play D"

Does that mean all the vets and our "superstars" just all fall in line and say okay..let's not play D?

I'm not saying MDA is blame free in the lack of defense but just find it's a bit odd to think that the players..the guys actually on the court don't have as much or MORE blame that should be falling on their shoulders.

The guys on the court should take the blame just as well as D'Antoni does, but I don't understand why everyone's looking at this like it's a new problem. The Knicks had no height and no defense before Carmelo got here, and became a better team with no height and no defense now that Melo is here. The trade wasn't for this year, and Walsh summed it up perfectly when he said that it's his job to find the roleplayers again. It's not happenging this season, though.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

MSG3 wrote:I dont understand why Sheldon Williams doesn't get any burn when it's clear that Hansborough is scoring at will. I just don't get it. WHy is it so hard to adjust?

This I'll agree with. Pacers kept going to Hibbert down low when Amare had 5 fouls on him and there was 0 adjustment made. That was a bit curious.

This is exactly MDASS' problem. He is a stubborn mule. Try effin anything!! Why not have sheldon williams put a body on Kareem?? Nothing else is working. If you say he does not have the personnel, ok. But freakin try something!!

You guys can all defend him but it is inevitable. He is gone! The only question is: is it after this crappy season or the next crappy season. We all know it.

Will the next coach do better? Maybe, maybe not. but we have to try something. Not like MDApiphany.

At the end of the day, if the coach / team aint getting it done, regardless of fault, you can't fire the players (for the most part) but you can fire the coach. And, HE WILL BE FIRED!

Tickets will not go up 49% to watch this scchhhiittt.

Knicksfan wrote:First of all, don't put words in my mouth I haven't said. Nobody said our superstars become defensive stoppers with D'Antoni gone. But if you can't see that the main problem with this the Knicks is the lack of team defense, the lack of organization and adjustments in defense during the game, then you have no idea what is really going on here.

This isn't about turning our players into stoppers, but about playing a whole game with an actual defensive strategy and adjusting it during the game. This is something any coach with knowledge and regard for defense will be able to do.

Did you see the post-game interview from D'Antoni? His best defensive strategy is hoping the other team misses. This guy has no clue what to do on defense and you can see it in the way he responds to questions related to defense.

I don't know why I'm defending him, but to be fair, he said all you can do "is man up on him and hope he misses". Maybe the "manning up" is up to the player defending, and the "hoping" is all D'Antoni can do on the sidelines.

blkexec wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:D'Antoni has to go. Its a given now. And if that means Walsh leaves with him, I'll be sad but I won't care.

Any other coach would have this team playing AVERAGE defense, which would've won us the last two games and many more. D'Antoni amazingly has them playing ZIP!

Really? MDA leaves and Melo and Amare becomes beasts on D too?

Does MDA leaving find us a guy to guard Roy Hibbert and stop Hansborough from looking like Kevin F-in Mchale out there?

I really do hope it's that easy. Fire MDA and we go from 25th in FG % allowed to what?

Let's assume you're right..MDA tells the players "Hey the plan is we're going to outscore the other team and not play D"

Does that mean all the vets and our "superstars" just all fall in line and say okay..let's not play D?

I'm not saying MDA is blame free in the lack of defense but just find it's a bit odd to think that the players..the guys actually on the court don't have as much or MORE blame that should be falling on their shoulders.

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When the team is not responding to the coach, regardless of fault - it's irrelevant, the coach goes. Case closed! Team loses, coach goes. This is how it works in small market teams. NY? - nough said.

Once fans stop purchasing the Amar'e and Melo jerseys and not renew/re-up the 49% increase in tickets Dolan will start wising up hopefully

Juice wrote:True but SAS and Barkley are all but saying he should be fired.....

Once fans stop purchasing the Amar'e and Melo jerseys and not renew/re-up the 49% in tickets Dolan will start wising up hopefully

Haha Dolan and Wise should never be used in the same sentence!

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Juice wrote:True but SAS and Barkley are all but saying he should be fired.....

Once fans stop purchasing the Amar'e and Melo jerseys and not renew/re-up the 49% increase in tickets Dolan will start wising up hopefully

Yea and once New Yorkers stop paying exorbitant rents for ****ty studio apartments landlords will start wising up.

Written from my overpriced ****ty studio apartment.

I LOL'd. So true.

AnubisADL wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Juice wrote:True but SAS and Barkley are all but saying he should be fired.....

Once fans stop purchasing the Amar'e and Melo jerseys and not renew/re-up the 49% increase in tickets Dolan will start wising up hopefully

Yea and once New Yorkers stop paying exorbitant rents for ****ty studio apartments landlords will start wising up.

Written from my overpriced ****ty studio apartment.

I LOL'd. So true.

What's a studio go for nowadays and what's the sq ft avg studio?

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Juice wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Juice wrote:True but SAS and Barkley are all but saying he should be fired.....

Once fans stop purchasing the Amar'e and Melo jerseys and not renew/re-up the 49% increase in tickets Dolan will start wising up hopefully

Yea and once New Yorkers stop paying exorbitant rents for ****ty studio apartments landlords will start wising up.

Written from my overpriced ****ty studio apartment.

I LOL'd. So true.

What's a studio go for nowadays and what's the sq ft avg studio?

I'm not even sure -- depends on where you are. I'm in Midtown East a bit of a hike from the train so it's not totally insane, but I don't brag about it. Don't want to put my personal details out there and get even more depressed.

But you aren't paying for sq footage, you are paying for the location. Right?

I'm not from NY I just wanted to know in general......

1400sq ft goes for about $900/mo where I live

Yes, THE Tom Thibodeau. The same one who went to the Celtics and transformed their defense and now has the Bulls as the #1 defensive team in the NBA.