nixluva wrote:Dolan and the Knicks want this deal to happen. Melo and his people CAA want this deal to happen. I know Denver wants the NJ deal to happen, but in the end I expect Denver to make a deal with NY. We may overpay but this guy is a building block and everyone else besides Amar'e is replaceable. To be honest, role players are always replaceable. So long as they can manage to keep the deal within reason, it's worth doing. I don't know how the Knicks feel about doing Chandler, Fields, Felton & Timo. I have no idea if Dolan would go that far, but I think he's crazy enough to do that.

Billups, Amar'e, Melo, Gallo and Turiaf or Barron would be the likely lineup if Dolan sold the farm for Melo. It would hurt, but in the end the most important players any team has are the stars. You start there and look to fill in around them. The Knicks would be able to fill in the other spots. This is an extreme position, but I feel that when it comes to building a team you have to have that foundation, which is the STARS on your team. That's the part that makes everything else go. However, I'm hoping that we only send Chan, Gallo, Felton and not the new package the Nuggets asked for. We'll see.

nixluva wrote:Dolan and the Knicks want this deal to happen. Melo and his people CAA want this deal to happen. I know Denver wants the NJ deal to happen, but in the end I expect Denver to make a deal with NY. We may overpay but this guy is a building block and everyone else besides Amar'e is replaceable. To be honest, role players are always replaceable. So long as they can manage to keep the deal within reason, it's worth doing. I don't know how the Knicks feel about doing Chandler, Fields, Felton & Timo. I have no idea if Dolan would go that far, but I think he's crazy enough to do that.

Billups, Amar'e, Melo, Gallo and Turiaf or Barron would be the likely lineup if Dolan sold the farm for Melo. It would hurt, but in the end the most important players any team has are the stars. You start there and look to fill in around them. The Knicks would be able to fill in the other spots. This is an extreme position, but I feel that when it comes to building a team you have to have that foundation, which is the STARS on your team. That's the part that makes everything else go. However, I'm hoping that we only send Chan, Gallo, Felton and not the new package the Nuggets asked for. We'll see.

it's what happened in phoenix with colangelo, kerr and mda.... it was more money problems that undermined what they did only this time we're dealing with an immature owner...

also to add... this is quite possibly an even bigger mess than the Decision.... denver's inexperience, the nets last minute desperation, the knicks crazy owner, melo's wish washiness, CAA again with the ego trip.... everyone who has touched this have probably handled this the poorest way possible... it is like the worst of reality tv and we're all suckers for following this fiasco...

I hope Fields and Moz are not included. That will point to Dolan. If I was Donnie and we sell the farm, at the press conference I would announce that I'm resigning while Dolan sits next to me and further say he took the reigns from me...

earthmansurfer wrote:Latest from Wojina:

The thin veil of secrecy has torn away now, the pretenses gone and Isiah Thomas has left the shadows and moved into the light again. Once more, he is the New York Knicks’ top basketball executive.

Thomas is driving everything through owner James Dolan – the trade for Carmelo Anthony(notes), the departure of Donnie Walsh and perhaps even the eventual hiring of the New York Knicks’ next president and general manager, multiple league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

“Isiah is calling the shots for New York,” said one front-office executive involved in the Anthony trade talks. “It’s a disgrace. Donnie should walk.”

Rest here: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ak1oqh5ILJdgL7gm2B2O9ju8vLYF?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011

The posters quote - If there is any truth to this than Walsh should walk away from the team, I can't believe he would get undermined like this.
I agree with this and said as much in my post before. Don't F things up Dolan. Many of us will walk if you gut the team. Further it's an injury waiting to happen (again.)

Dolan has overruled Walsh in these trade talks and undermined his authority. Walsh has never wanted to give away Raymond Felton(notes) for an aging Chauncey Billups(notes) and throw Danilo Gallinari(notes) into the package, too. This is all Isiah, all his influence...

....In a moment of truth for this Knicks franchise, in the biggest trade they’ve tried to make in years, Isiah Thomas, the coach of Florida International University, has emerged as the de facto GM.

....For months, Thomas has privately insisted that Walsh was done with the Knicks this spring. His option must be exercised by April 30 and that still hasn’t happened. Thomas believes it’s never happening, and believes he can install a puppet regime through Dolan to replace Walsh. This way he can eliminate the middleman. “He wants his own guy in that office, someone he can have some control over,” a league source said.

Thomas had a plan to run the Knicks again, and it failed a year ago: When Dolan pushed Walsh to bring back the disgraced executive as the Knicks general manager, Walsh reacted with the threat of resignation. This was pure lunacy, a plan hatched out of the incompetence of Dolan, out of the deviousness of Thomas.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ak1oqh5ILJdgL7gm2B2O9ju8vLYF?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011

earthmansurfer wrote:From another board:

Latest from Wojina:

The thin veil of secrecy has torn away now, the pretenses gone and Isiah Thomas has left the shadows and moved into the light again. Once more, he is the New York Knicks’ top basketball executive.

Thomas is driving everything through owner James Dolan – the trade for Carmelo Anthony(notes), the departure of Donnie Walsh and perhaps even the eventual hiring of the New York Knicks’ next president and general manager, multiple league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

“Isiah is calling the shots for New York,” said one front-office executive involved in the Anthony trade talks. “It’s a disgrace. Donnie should walk.”

Rest here: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ak1oqh5ILJdgL7gm2B2O9ju8vLYF?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011

The posters quote - If there is any truth to this than Walsh should walk away from the team, I can't believe he would get undermined like this.
I agree with this and said as much in my post before. Don't F things up Dolan. Many of us will walk if you gut the team. Further it's an injury waiting to happen (again.)

I literally felt a little sick reading that

Uptown wrote:You guys are so quick to believe the worse. Wojina has been so anti-knick its ridiculous. I'll give Walsh enough credit to believe he wouldn't be caught up in this type of nonsense.....Puppet regime? Are you kidding me?

Wojnarowski is a national sports writer for a major news organization who also has to maintain a level of factual information and journalism standards. I don't recall any national sports writer calling out an organization and owner like he has with Dolan and Isiah in this article. There is a lot of truth in what he has written. If he made all of this up, his job would be at stake.

Feels good doesn't it.