Posted by ALLBaLL2006:

Marbury is never going to get it. You also get assists by penetrating the way Parker did last wednesday against the Knicks.

Posted by attaboy2005:

Posted by MinsHeartsReezy:

Posted by attaboy2005:

Marbs is just putting in just enough effort to get by, it's not good enough, he has been in this town for almost three yrs, if he doesn't understand how the media is and what the fans expect from him, then I think it's time for him to bid adeu to NYC and the Knicks, since his skin is too thin to take an criticism and do nothing about it, like change his attitud, it's time to wave goodbye to him.

What exactly is he supposed to say? No comment? What good will that do for the writers? He get's attacked everywhere he goes. This is the most active I've seen him in a post game interview all season. He was obviously annoyed and frustrated. His usual post game interviews are in this monotonic voice that makes me wanna fall asleep. Its not easy to be questioned after a bad game like this especially when he gets the same hate when he gets 20 pts. Its never enough. Killa4Luv is also correct when saying that his on court demeanor was a lot more positive compared to his behavior in the past weeks.
Maybe he'll come out with a little more fight from now on. Maybe he has reached his breaking point. Whatever the case I'm going to wait untill after the All Star break or possibly the season to call for him to be traded. It's not as if we trade him and automatically Miracle happens and we go deep into the play offs. Time & patience are 2 things we need to stick to right now. We need stability and thats starts with Larry Brown. LB WILL get this to work somehow so how about we wait for him to stop the mad scientist routine and then see what we've really got here.


[Edited by - minsheartsreezy on 12-28-2005 11:22 PM]

I don't think you even believe what you just wrote since you said, "Maybe Steph will come out with a little more fight from now on".

Maybe?. You have to have more conviction then that to make your statement backing Marbury, because obviously you haven't been watching the last 10 games or of you have you been wearing rose colored glasses, Steph is mailing it in, and he will not show anymore fight for a long time, or until he is gone. In case you haven't looked at his history of
moves to other teams, it's about that time for him to move on, believe I would've like to see it work out for him, but he has to go, period!.

I have been patient with this team for 35 yrs, so don't tell me about patience, this is not working out so get real things need to happen and Steph needs to go.

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by ALLBaLL2006:

Marbury is never going to get it. You also get assists by penetrating the way Parker did last wednesday against the Knicks.

Larry doesn't want him to do that.

Marbury's whole game is getting to the basket. He's been doing that since he was playing in the playgrounds as a kid. All of a sudden he should be like Parker?

Man listen......the bench out played the starters. They scored 70 plus points compared to the 20 plus from the starters.

Out of no where Brown starts David Lee. Why is Frye coming off the bench, still?

Keep pointing the fingers at the players.......Brown is f uck ing up. Tell me when did the Knicks attack Orlando on offense in that entire 48 minute ball game?

Stop talking about defense!!!!! This team is lost on offense. By now the team is still lost on offense? Still? Larry still has no clue on a starting line-up?

If Isiah should be fired....he should be for signing Larry Brown. At least Herb tried to work with what he had. Brown just has an offense and you just have to play his way and forget what you did in your career. Larry Brown is a stubborn bitch.

Posted by ALLBaLL2006:

Um why doesn't Marbury then show some balls and play his damn game then? Ya'll know why? Cuz he doesn't give a damn. Ya wanna put everything on Larry Brown. Oh if Larry Brown is this then he should do that blah blah. If Marbury showed some balls to be a leader on this team he wouldn't give a damn what Larry Brown says. He would go out there and play his game and try to get his teammates together to try to turn this around. Why should Marbury let someone who has never coached him in the NBA, al beit he is a Hall of Fame coach, tell him how to play the game of basketball. Marbury should just stop pouting and play his game then. Drop 30 and 10 every night then. I've had it with giving Marbury a pass and blaming Brown.

Posted by YoungSpike:

Posted by ALLBaLL2006:

Um why doesn't Marbury then show some balls and play his damn game then? Ya'll know why? Cuz he doesn't give a damn. Ya wanna put everything on Larry Brown. Oh if Larry Brown is this then he should do that blah blah. If Marbury showed some balls to be a leader on this team he wouldn't give a damn what Larry Brown says. He would go out there and play his game and try to get his teammates together to try to turn this around. Why should Marbury let someone who has never coached him in the NBA, al beit he is a Hall of Fame coach, tell him how to play the game of basketball. Marbury should just stop pouting and play his game then. Drop 30 and 10 every night then. I've had it with giving Marbury a pass and blaming Brown.

for one thing Marbury has dreamed of playing for the Knicks since Lincoln so i can't see how he does not give a damn, and what do you want him to do not run the plays his coach calls?

Posted by ALLBaLL2006:

Um why doesn't Marbury then show some balls and play his damn game then? Ya'll know why? Cuz he doesn't give a damn. Ya wanna put everything on Larry Brown. Oh if Larry Brown is this then he should do that blah blah. If Marbury showed some balls to be a leader on this team he wouldn't give a damn what Larry Brown says. He would go out there and play his game and try to get his teammates together to try to turn this around. Why should Marbury let someone who has never coached him in the NBA, al beit he is a Hall of Fame coach, tell him how to play the game of basketball. Marbury should just stop pouting and play his game then. Drop 30 and 10 every night then. I've had it with giving Marbury a pass and blaming Brown.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by OldFan:


First problms is it was not obvious how much curry would be able to play. And it's not obvious how much he'll be able to play next game and hasn't been obvious all season.

The other problem is that if those guys play how they've been playing so far - we're not gonna win many games anyway. How many amongst them are even an average starting players:

1) Not Curry - hasn't been able to stay healthy.
2) Frye is great for a rookie, but plays defense like a rookie and isn't a consistent force on the boards or even offensively.
3) Ariza - obviously not.
4) Craw - Is still Craw. I see a slight improvement in shot selection other then that - still makes bad decisions still can't play D.
5) Marbs - Not as bad as his detractors say. But week defensively, not a leader and not good enough to make this a good lineup.

So you have a lineup of guys who are inconsistent on offense and bad on defense. With maybe one guy who at his current skill level, fitness level and knowledge of the game is a starting player on an average NBA team.

Basically we have no good lineup. What Larry should be doing is trying to improve the team not eek out a couple of extra wins over the course of the season. That's what I think he is trying to do. He needs to do whatever he can to get these guys to play better or get better players. Playing the "Best" players without forcing players to improve gets us nothing.

I completely disagree. Start that lineup and good things will happen. Give guys roles and good things will happen.

Sure, Crawford, Frye, Curry, Ariza all have flaws, but every team in the league has flaws in it's starting lineup. Brown focuses on what's wrong with the players, rather than using what's right.