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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
10/29/2016 2:49 PM
reub wrote:"DICKILEAKS" Just saw this on the front page of the NY Post. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
10/29/2016 3:47 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:reub wrote:"DICKILEAKS" More like 'Weinerleaks'. At the end of the day both candidates flawed but my personal take is that people genuinely hate Hillary Clinton and do not like that she breaks the law. Trump is a big mouth and braggghhhadacious but I think he means well and has some good ideas. Hillary knew about trump leaked tape months ago and that was her gig and now she's done RIP Crushalot😞
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smackeddog
Posts: 38389 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
10/29/2016 4:11 PM
BRIGGS wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:reub wrote:"DICKILEAKS" I genuinely hate Trump, so does most of the world |
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reub
Posts: 21836 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2016 Member: #6227 |
10/29/2016 5:18 PM
Why do the same people who loved FBI Director Comey just yesterday morning suddenly hate him today?
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27986 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
10/29/2016 5:41 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:BRIGGS wrote:smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:New emails found after she said that was it? OMG people she is a fcking "traitor" let alone criminally corrupt. So voting for what could amount to a very serious felon(maybe worse) or a guy who bragged he got some pssy 13 years ago?
'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
10/29/2016 7:18 PM
reub wrote:Why do the same people who loved FBI Director Comey just yesterday morning suddenly hate him today? First of all this is a lame talking point. No one hates Comey but what he did was wrong. Such a vague letter would create doubt and a vacuum for Hillary opponents to fabricate lies! He may have felt he had no choice but really he was looking to cover his own ass. Also why not make it clearer that the FBI hadn't actually gone through all these emails and that they had to get a warrant allowing them to dig into Huma's emails so they don't know what they have? |
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
10/29/2016 8:04 PM LAST EDITED: 10/29/2016 8:05 PM
I listened to Trump and Hillary today and noticed Trump was on talking points. Immigration, economy, he was hittin all the topics that mattered to the public. Hillary in the other hand brought nothing no economic, no immigration, absolutely nothing. Just an observation.
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
10/29/2016 8:06 PM LAST EDITED: 10/29/2016 8:07 PM
smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:reub wrote:"DICKILEAKS" Sometimes that is a good thing when electing a new leader and Commander in Chief |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
10/29/2016 8:12 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:BRIGGS wrote:smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:New emails found after she said that was it? OMG people she is a fcking "traitor" let alone criminally corrupt. So voting for what could amount to a very serious felon(maybe worse) or a guy who bragged he got some pssy 13 years ago? Because he Midtown west was not as pleasant as it is today. Hillary coining the term Super-predators is worse than anything Giuliani did or has been misguidedly accused of doing. |
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
10/29/2016 8:26 PM LAST EDITED: 10/29/2016 8:49 PM
gunsnewing wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:BRIGGS wrote:smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:New emails found after she said that was it? OMG people she is a fcking "traitor" let alone criminally corrupt. So voting for what could amount to a very serious felon(maybe worse) or a guy who bragged he got some pssy 13 years ago? Hillary did not coin the term Super-predator...John Dulio, professor at Princeton University wrote a paper about the spike in crime rate in the 1990s and coined the phrase in his paper...Hillary is just one of many politicians who sited the paper as a study on crime and repeated the term..Republicans were successful in attributing term to Hillary like most other ills in the world.. |
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
10/29/2016 8:56 PM
Justice Department warned Comey he would be violating election rules if he sent letter to Congress. Wall Street Journal reports Comey acted on his own hoping to avoid criticism he would have received if the letter was sent after the election..
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
10/29/2016 10:16 PM
holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:BRIGGS wrote:smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:New emails found after she said that was it? OMG people she is a fcking "traitor" let alone criminally corrupt. So voting for what could amount to a very serious felon(maybe worse) or a guy who bragged he got some pssy 13 years ago? +1... nice one holfresh. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
10/29/2016 10:46 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:BRIGGS wrote:smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:New emails found after she said that was it? OMG people she is a fcking "traitor" let alone criminally corrupt. So voting for what could amount to a very serious felon(maybe worse) or a guy who bragged he got some pssy 13 years ago? Nice research done, but that is semantics at best she used the term did she not? |
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
10/29/2016 10:54 PM LAST EDITED: 10/29/2016 11:06 PM
Vmart wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:BRIGGS wrote:smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:New emails found after she said that was it? OMG people she is a fcking "traitor" let alone criminally corrupt. So voting for what could amount to a very serious felon(maybe worse) or a guy who bragged he got some pssy 13 years ago? Yea, but Opening paragraph of the article: From his perch as the director of the new White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, which he believes will help uplift many needy people but particularly the most troubled teenagers, John J. DiIulio Jr. conceded today that he wished he had never become the 1990's intellectual pillar for putting violent juveniles in prison and condemning them as ''superpredators.'' Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
10/29/2016 10:58 PM LAST EDITED: 10/29/2016 11:34 PM
Semantics means "meaning" in language. So if you are going to condemn her for using the term, its appropriateness, and her cupability in any racist undertones to it, we are literally talking about semantics. So to say that's "semantics at best" to downplay the discussion around it is ridiculous. Semantics is literally the crux of the discussion.
The guy who came up with the phrase obviously doesn't think he was being racist, nor does he want to accept responsibility for the increased incarceration rates. He literally says in that article: ''I'm sorry for any unintended consequences,'' Mr. DiIluio said today. ''But I am not responsible for teenagers' going to prison.'' Hillary when she used it at the time didn't see it as racist either. It was a theory based on research and predictions that became policy and later proven faulty. Sometimes politically popular theories and predictions turn out wrong you know. You can see this in the Rockefeller drug laws, the Moynihan Report, all sorts of policies that were implemented with the best of intentions but had fatal flaws or blindspots that become glaringly obvious decades later. They don't think they are being racists. But white supremacy is great at creating blind spots. (I'm not calling them white supremacists either... it's more about the "soup" we are all swimming in as a society, if you feel me.) So it's funny to see Trump-friendly folks — or Clinton-hating folks — co-opt the superpredator line of attack they learned from Black Lives Matter protestors. It's cute, because it's not an honest alignment of views, it's just a way to attack. We could have a real discussion about criminology from an "enlightened" 21st century perspective post-BLM... but it's a discussion that runs exactly opposite to the viewpoints of a Giuliani and "Law and Order" Trump. So to superficially use both Giuliani and a BLM perspective to take down Clinton isn't reading to me as very intellectually honest. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
10/29/2016 11:55 PM LAST EDITED: 10/30/2016 12:13 AM
Let me be clear: Hillary most certainly said "superpredators" and talked about "bringing them to heel" while defending the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act her husband signed into law, in a 1996 speech in lily white New Hampshire. Those word choices are her bad, fo' sho. Joe Biden was the Senate sponsor of that bill incidentally. The intention was to get a handle on some serious crime problems we were having in the US at that time.
However time has not been so favorable to this legislative act, and certainly not to her words, which she now regrets. It lead to a dramatic increase in incarceration rates and a massive prison population — a shameful legacy for decades to come. It all goes to the complicated situation with the Clintons and the "Third Way" "New Democrats" — the co-opting of Republican "Law and Order" rhetoric and policies for electoral gain, so they can nip the "soft on crime" label Republicans always put on Democrats. She said those words and should be held accountable. But she didn't "coin" the term or the theory. Same thing with her Iraq "War" authorization vote: she voted yes for it, but she wasn't alone, and it wasn't a declaration of war, so W didn't have to send troops in. He just really wanted to. So how she gets the blame for it all... it's too much. And I'm sorry, Trump or Rinse Pubis trotting out this line of attack like they are BLM protestors rings hollow. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
10/30/2016 12:11 AM
Vmart wrote:I listened to Trump and Hillary today and noticed Trump was on talking points. Immigration, economy, he was hittin all the topics that mattered to the public. Hillary in the other hand brought nothing no economic, no immigration, absolutely nothing. Just an observation. Thats a big reason why this thread started and some have missed the point. She president in hiding. She has no ideas she has shown no energy for the job she goes in hiding as much as possible. She can tell you very loudly that Trump is a misogynist=--because thats her whole campaign plan. RIP Crushalot😞
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
10/30/2016 12:16 AM LAST EDITED: 10/30/2016 12:17 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:I listened to Trump and Hillary today and noticed Trump was on talking points. Immigration, economy, he was hittin all the topics that mattered to the public. Hillary in the other hand brought nothing no economic, no immigration, absolutely nothing. Just an observation. She does have ideas, she has plenty of energy — that energy line is super lame... but I agree she is focusing too much on attacking Trump and not laying out her own vision, and hides from press scrutiny too much. Can you please stop repeating those dumb "no ideas, no energy" parts of your thesis? Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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